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I’ve been getting these calls. They are also calling my job that I did not have at the time of this alleged loan. I do not want this to affect my job. They’ve called back to back and would not say who they are with and would not agree to send me a letter, saying they have sent several email. There is a call coming through right now while I’m writing this from 1243521256 and yes that’s all of the numbers … eh caller fraud ID as well. What is the name of Vaness? and gave a call back from 650-835 – ???? number. Omg! I am about to file a police report and open a FTC Case in my state.
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Jason – It absolutely sounds like the classic overseas payday loan scam. Do not send them a penny. Remember, in the US a debt collector is required to send notification of the debt to you in writing. If he does not, he’s breaking the law. Report these guys to the FTC and your state attorney general.
Crystal – Old payday loan collection effort like this is very often scams. So you should proceed very cautiously and assume it is a scam unless they can really prove otherwise. Ask them to send you a written notice of the debt by snail mail, not email. (Email is too easy to be fake) it’s a good idea to get it out of the world.
Stacy – do not pay anything unless you’re sure it’s a legitimate debt. Under the FDCPA, collectors are legally obliged to provide proof of the debt. Having said this, within 5 days of contacting you by phone, they must send you a notification of their attempt to collect. In that notice, they have to inform you of your right to have the validated debt. You have thirty days to do this and it must be done in writing. If they can not validate the debt, you can not legally collect. With that said, we strongly encourage you to read through the following two resources, at least make sure you know your rights and take the appropriate steps forward:
Saying you’re going to be arrested for fraud because you have not paid your payday loan is a bogus threat. The fact that they have all this information about you does not mean it is a legitimate collection attempt. And the fact that you want to pay with a moneypack is a big red flag. I would suggest you turn the tables on them and report them to the Federal Trade Commission and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (consumerfinance.gov). Next time they call start the conversation by telling them you are going to record the call to deliver to law enforcement – and do so!
Well today I got a new phone call from a firm firm stating that I was going to be charged with theft by deception of a financial institution if I did not pay, I said I was waiting on the papers to be served to me and I would be happy to address this matter in court. The lady
the past several days, some entity claiming they have papers to serve have been blowing up relative relatives. Trying to acertain my whereabouts. The days that I have not worked. No one has been to my doorstep to do, the email i recieved is at best enough to leave skepticism abound, considering the sentence and word structure and does not jive as being official. If you want to see it reply back
I did not have any phone calls but my previous room was visited at home by a man named Lewis claiming he had a delivery for me and that he is a server server! She has been to her home several times and she has finally told her to stop her harrassing her as well. He left a fake look business card in which he wrote in his name and tel. # 425-223-8367. I have not called him to verify anything yet. Any suggestions how to handle or proceed with this? Any help is appreciated!
“I do not think they’ll be back, because I told them that it’s federal law to send me something written in the mail before trying to collect the debt from me” – Surprisingly, once they know that you know the laws (and better than they do), they typically do back and give up. Thank you for sharing your story, it shows that knowing and understanding your rights can help protect you from being a victim.
I got a call today from some lady named ms jones nichole
This is a standard procedure when dealing with any debt collector and by law, the collector must comply with this request. If they refuse, they are breaking the law under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and have no right to continue to try to collect. In fact, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, if a collector contacts you by phone they have 5 days in which to send you formal written notice that you owe the debt. The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and your right to dispute the debt, in writing, within 30 days of receipt of the notice.
I had a company contact me today and they said I have a furniture store I did not have an account with the company but they will not send me any documentation from there company and said if I do not pay in an hour a warrant will be released and I will be arrested I’m going to school and do not want to mess up my life so I should pay them
I received a call about a payday loan that I took out and never paid back. This guy was real nasty told me that I need to quit my job cuz they dont pay that much. Told me that if I dont pay thatvi can be charged with fraud asked for debit card number. Thankfully I had ten dollars less than the agreed amount in my checking n I have a block for overdraft fees. After this I called an attorney office and they said it sounds like a scam. Thing was that I owe a payday loan place and this guy had my name and social security number so I thought it was legit. I have since ordered a new debit card and i’ll talk to my bank about changing my checking acount number or something. I dont want these guys to get into my bank account number. He theartened to garnish my salary told me that if I go to court I could pay up to $ 2000 instead of the small amount that I really owe. Said he can come up to my work and serve me with a poster. I told him that I could only pay $ 50 now and then $ 50 a week and he said he needs 150 now and 100 a week. I do not see how anyone can deny a payment that makes me feel even more scam. U can pay hospital bills at a day and they’re not doing so why this would be any different. I do not pay anything until I get a short date and then I will go to court then I will pay. Until then oh Well I just got a job after being out of work for 4 months I have a lot of important things to worry about
numbers online and it looks they dont exist. I’m trying to report them before someone else becomes a victim.
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someone named nicole woods – who’s leaving a number of – 888-891-4526 but you’re cant to her. she is very rude. and calls my job and tell anyone who answers the phonet that I’m going to be arrested and she is going to serve some papers on me. I asked the mail to the documents. claim they cant
lending at 25 percent a year, there are no stores at all.
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“People this stuff is a SCAM they CAN NOT arrest you for having a faulty payday loan. They first have to take you to court and they CAN NOT contact you by phone to inform you of it. You have to be served from the court house stating when and where the court is and who is being taken to court by and for what reasons. ”
Someone called me yesterday claiming I’m supposed to appear in court and they will be at my home tomorrow. They then called this morning saying they will be at my him between 4 and 5pm. And leafy an “800” number for me to call. The fact that it’s a 800 number already had my skeptical. So I guess I’ll be seeing these ppl at 5 today lol … They also keep calling from an unknown number so I can not block the call.
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ERVIN BANKS: I do not see anything wrong with them. I had some back bills I had to pay off. So it did not take me too long to pay it back – about three months, something like that. They are beautiful people.
If you are being sued for a debt, you may be served. But they’re not going to just “haul you to jail” just because you can not pay a debt. My suggestion? Ask for written verification of the debt you are entitled to by law. They will not possibly send it.
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Just to be clear, these are not collectors trying to collect legitimate debts. Most of the complaints on our forums, and to the AG AG include consumers who have never taken a payday loan, or who may have initiated one but never actually secured the loan. In some cases, the “collector” has detailed information about the victim – such as name, address and social security number – which makes the debt appear to be real.
Im glad I read your post. I have been getting calls from people for payday loans that i have had outstanding. they are threatening to take me to court and everything, and i know according to the payday loan laws in illinois they cant do that. My question is this: I had already had two loans out (via front store), and was approved for 5 more online (after which I did not have any of the companies were licensed in illinois. the money to repay at the moment thats when they get rude and nasty with me they keep saying they will put a judgment on my report, etc. 855-216-1354 is one of the numbers i keep getting calls from. my caller id they come up 000 and i wait for them to leave a message I do not pay them anything but i wonder if they really do anything to me the companies according to illinois law should have contacted me to set up I did not want to go back, but now I’m getting these calls, something doesnt seem right
If a legitimate collector contacted you for a legitimate debt, you could ask them stop
i get harrassed from this lady name judy bowling stating that i owe over 10,000 to this payday one loan.i never made a loan.i have never filled out a application or i never did any business with any loan.its scary that they have my social security number, my drivers license and all my private info.what can I do?
wow. That’s disgusting, especially towards your daughter. I’d have told them “odd, I’ve already talked to my county sheriff about this, so PLEASE some over here because he really wants to meet you too! Oh, all of this is recorded and will be given to my Sheriff this afternoon while we’re sitting around waiting
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Turn the tables on them. You can report them to the FTC.gov. Give the FTC as many details as you can. If you have applied for a payday loan online in the past, you may need to include the name of that site in your complaint because your information was either sold or compromised and the FTC needs to know where these guys are getting personal information. That information will go into a database that is shared by law enforcement and other governmental agencies.
Does anyone have an address for these companies? I have been contacted by The Law Offices of Jeffrey Abate, Cashnet, and today the Department of Legal Services. When I asked for an address to validate the debt I was hung up on. I’ve been harassed for months now with calls to work, home and my cell phone. When I asked to not call my work I was told too bad. Which yes I know is against the law. I have filed reports with the FTC and the AG in Washington State with no luck because I do not have an address! HELP!
Please complain to your state attorney general and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC.gov). Your complaint will be entered into Consumer Sentinel, a shared database by law enforcement agencies. Be as specific as possible in your complaint.
Same thing happened to me today with the 6308445678 number. She told me I took out this loan in 08 but when I asked her the name on the loan she told me it was my marriage name that I did not have until after that date. Then I told her I’m not working and she said she did not know why anyone in their right mind would not want a job or have a job. She then said “Well, I have a job and pay my bills” Little does she know I’m staying at home mom taking care of MY kids! Ugh so annoying!
I called back the next day and talked with Savanna again, a conversation that lasted about a minute because she refused to answer my questions and hung up … again. I called back and asked to speak with a Supervisor, which she obliged (at least I think, they sounded a awful lot like). The Supervisor’s name was Bella Sims … it seemed like she was trying to be helpful, I told her the address they had had, and the account at the bank was closed for 2 years when this transaction was made. Mind you, no one ever asked me for updated information or my address … their gums just kept to flap about how I was going to be served a criminal
I started doing research about the organization and I had checked the Better Business Bureau and had lots of complaints and rated with an “F”. I did not contact Check N Go about which company they sold the account to and it was not PDL so I’m wondering how they got my information. I had given PDL $ 25 just for them to stop calling me so much I wonder if I should have done that.
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Why not send all your correspondence thru the mail since you have all this info on me. He said he would and wishes me luck. The scammers use several names like Daniel Richards, Dominic Jones, Angelina Parker and gives you a bogus address in Irvine (the idiot can not even pronounce Irvine, he goes to Irwine) when his phone does not registry East of San Francisco Ca. Please do not be intimidated by these people. Since a lot of our companies are in the US outsourced most of our call center
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Let me introduce myself. I am Senior Affidavit Processor Officer Alicia Fields from State Investigation Department. We have been trying to reach you since a couple of days about a serious matter about a lawsuit filed on your name that you are doing some fraud and criminal activities.
In either case, take notes of the conversation. In the event they sue you (which would be very rare if either of the scenarios I described are correct) you could show up and explain to the judge how they did not comply with the FDCPA. You could rent an attorney to sue them. If you win you would be entitled to damages and they would have to pay your attorney fees.
I can not tell from what you are writing whether it’s a very aggressive debt collector, but remember the debt collectors must follow federal law (and often state laws) that prohibits harassment and false statements.
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