Turn the tables on them. You can report them to the FTC.gov. Give the FTC as many details as you can. If you have applied for a payday loan online in the past, you may need to include the name of that site in your complaint because your information was either sold or compromised and the FTC needs to know where these guys are getting personal information. That information will go into a database that is shared by law enforcement and other governmental agencies.
Cream – do not respond or engage any further. A legitimate collector would not send all of this through email. We will also encourage you to file a formal complaint – of which you have several options – and you may even wish to forward the email in question to help investigate the fraud
DEYOUNG: Oh, I think that our history of usury laws is a direct result of our Judeo-Christian background. And even Islamic banking, which follows in the same tradition. But clearly interest on lent or borrowed money has, has been looked at non-objectively, let’s put it that way. So the shocking APR numbers if we apply them to rent a hotel or rent a car or lend your father’s gold watch or your mother’s silverware to the pawnbroker for a month, the APRs come out similar. So the shock from these numbers is, we recognize the shock here because we are used to calculate interest rates on loans but not interest rates on anything else. And it’s human nature to want to hear bad news and it’s, you know, the media understands this and so they report bad news more often than good news. We do not hear this. It’s like the houses that do not burn down and the stores that do not get robbed.
First, understand your rights when dealing with a collector. If you read through this comment, you will see many examples of fake payday loan scam collectors using scare tactics to coerce victims in paying up without researching the debt or verifying that they actually have it. In your case, if you’re positive you paid the old payday loan in full, it’s quite possible that it’s a scam. Fortunately, there are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
Thanks so much for doing this. You have proven you are an honorable person and no one will blame you. Everyone needs a job but you were brave enough to quit when you found out they were immoral. You have been very helpful!
CHRISTOPHER WERTH: Right. Well, it’s a non-profit watchdog, relatively new organization. Its mission is to expose corporate and political misconduct, primarily by using open-record applications, such as the Freedom of Information Act or FOIA applications, to produce evidence.
Has anyone got a call from statewide adr they keep calling my work and my dad house say they want to give me papers. Is this company for real or not i do not find anything on them. And i dont want to lose my job. Please help
lending at 25 percent a year, there are no stores at all.
I just had this happen and
Same thing happened to me today with the 6308445678 number. She told me I took out this loan in 08 but when I asked her the name on the loan she told me it was my marriage name that I did not have until after that date. Then I told her I’m not working and she said she did not know why anyone in their right mind would not want a job or have a job. She then said “Well, I have a job and pay my bills” Little does she know I’m staying at home mom taking care of MY kids! Ugh so annoying!
Fulmer says that payday-loan interest rates are not almost as predatory as they seem, for two reasons. First: When you hear “400 percent on an annualized basis,” you might think that people are borrowing the money for a year. But these loans are designed to be held for just a few weeks, unless, of course, they get rolled over a bunch of times. And, reason number two: because payday loans are so small – the average loan is about $ 375 – the fees need to be relatively high to make it worthwhile for the lender. For every $ 100 borrowed, Fulmer says, the lender gets about $ 15 in fees. So, capping the rate at an annualized 36 percent just would not work.
This is too much for me at least. These are Indian scammers. They do not care and it’s a scam. They are out to get you. So I take that seriously. I found out a nicely loud sports air horn magic works. I blow it into the phone. Nobody dared to call me back and that was it. I shared this with a few friends and it worked. I guess they needed their other ear intact. So I guess they call someone else. If that is you, do the same. I am determined to send them to another career with one ear messed up. I do not care because they do not either if they manage to scam me.
I received a call today from 888-958-3653 from a guy named mark saying I took out a payday loan back in 2007 and i owed $ 425.00 said I had to pay in full by oct 31st or will be sued or my salary garnished i asked for their mailing address and he refused to five it to me and i asked if they could send me documentation in the mail and he said they were strictly a paperless company he said i had to give him my credit card before they could send me any information so you can not say he did not get my credit card info, the company is westwood mediation
If these are legitimate collectors then they will stop calling at work once they are instructed by you to do so. That’s federal law
He does not want direct bank transfer and does not want money orders as both will leave paper trails right to him. He just wants us to get a pre-paid debit card from the store and put the money on it.
DUBNER: Hey Christopher. So, as I understand it, much of what you’ve learned about CCRF’s involvement in the payday research comes from a watchdog group called the Campaign for Accountability, or CFA? So, first off, tell us a bit more about them, and what their incentives may be.
Protections for servicemembers. There are special protections through the federal Military Lending Act (MLA) for active duty servicemembers and their dependents. These protections include a cap of 36 percent on the Military Annual Percentage Rate (MAPR) as well as other limitations on what lenders can pay for payday and other consumer loans. Contact your local Advocate General’s (JAG) office to learn more about lending restrictions. You can use the JAG Legal Assistance Office locator to find help.
The one who called me was American legal services .. I have never been to jail in my life Thank God I called a lawyer first .. Should I know when they were avoiding my request for detailed info.
I received a call from Jonathan Andrews of Adams, Peterson and Irving stating I have a file placed with them that needs immediate attention. The caller said they would send the file to my county for prosecution. 844-580-7842 was the number on my caller ID … who has this experience? What was the result.
It’s a good idea to call first and confirm what you will need. Our friendly associates will be happy to help!
Ana – Do not pay a penny until you verify this is definitely a legitimate debt. Ask them to send you a written notice of the debt by mail (not email or fax). This is your right under federal law. If they refuse to call Fraud.org for advice as it’s probably a scam.
DeYOUNG: Right now, there are very little information about rollovers, the reasons for rollovers, and the effects of rollovers. And without academic research, the rule is going to be based on who shouts the loudest. And that’s a bad way to write law or regulation. That’s what I really worry about. If I could advocate a solution to this, it would be: identify the number of rollovers at which it has been revealed that the borrower is in trouble and is being irresponsible and this is the wrong product for them. At that point the payday lender does not flip the borrower into another loan, does not encourage the borrower to find another payday lender. At that point the lender’s main is then switched into a different product, a long term loan where he or she pays it a bit bit every month.
then the guy wanted to know why i took the advance out in the first place and why i have not paid on it. he said I was going to get charged with check fraud from across state lines since the company is out of state and when they tried to retrieve the money from my account the money was not there.
I was upset. I looked up Money & More online to see if there was a phone number that I could call to see if I could get more information since they were the ones I did business with. The website has no phone numbers. This to me is crazy. I had made a google search for Money and More when looking for their number. There are several forums and postings about scams to collect a debt from unsuspecting people. Most people are saying too that it was from 2008.
I’ve been contacted back to someone I’ve been in touch with you and I’ve been in touch with you. The time if the loan and now I have only part time job so she said either I pay four hundred dollars or I will go to jail. Someone please help me is this real.
He said he worked for Morgan Lewis on behalf of Money & More. He had all my personal information, bank information, ssn, dob. He told me I had committed internet fraud by taking out a loan and not paying it back. I did not remember to take out a loan online & told him I did not remember to take out a loan on the internet. He then told me that he had email transactions and verification from my bank that the ACH withdrawal was declined twice so I had committed internet fraud and was going to jail. He then hung up on me.
better thanks for educating me on this scam.
At Check `n Go, we want to be there for California residents when money needs to come. Our California payday loans range from $ 100 to $ 255. Online installment loans and The Choice Loan (available at Check `n Go stores) range from $ 2505 to $ 5000.
ERVIN BANKS: I do not see anything wrong with them. I had some back bills I had to pay off. So it did not take me too long to pay it back – about three months, something like that. They are beautiful people.
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If they call back, follow the instructions outlined in this article or the resource provided above. If the collector will not comply with your requests, then it may be a scam. It’s hard to say until you talk to them to see if the debt is legitimate. Whatever you do, do not let them intimidate you in paying without validating the debt. As a result of the comment on this thread, they use scare tactics and prey on consumers not knowing their rights and the laws when it comes to debt collections.
“I do not think they’ll be back, because I told them that it’s federal law to send me something written in the mail before trying to collect the debt from me” – Surprisingly, once they know that you know the laws (and better than they do), they typically do back and give up. Thank you for sharing your story, it shows that knowing and understanding your rights can help protect you from being a victim.
The bigger problem for payday lenders is the overhead. Alex Horowitz, a research manager at the Pew Charitable Trusts, says that two-thirds of the fee payday lenders collect are spent just keeping the lights on. The average storefront serves only 500 customers a year, and employee turnover is ridiculously high. For example, QC Holdings, a public traded nationwide lender, reported that it had to replace approximately 65 percent of its branch-level employees in 2014. “The profits are not extraordinary,” Horowitz says. “What is extraordinary is the inefficiency.”
I received the same call yesterday and today from Eric Brown threathening to come to my place of employment and have me served. When asked for his company name, phone number he said I havd been warded. He starts off having a lot of personal information address, phone number really scary. How do they get all this? He has been calling my cell phone everyday today with threats. I have his messa saved on voice mail. He also informs me to contact 877-418-8244 Pay Day Solutions. His number is always unavailable. Will contact Attornet General and FTC today. How can we stop this?
Contact your state’s regulator or attorney general office for more information. You may also contact legal attorney or private attorney assistance for assistance. You can submit a complaint about payday loans with the CFPB online or by calling (855) 411-2372.
One big advice PEOPLE !! Try to avoid giving out your personal information. Avoid any suspicious telemarketing calls (they get your info) or sign any document at your doorstep … This decade is FULL of scammers … so DO NOT get cheated!
Crystal – Old payday loan collection effort like this is very often scams. So you should proceed very cautiously and assume it is a scam unless they can really prove otherwise. Ask them to send you a written notice of the debt by snail mail, not email. (Email is too easy to be fake) it’s a good idea to get it out of the world.
I worked. I got all the information from the lady (who at the point was very nice and helpful). I then contacted my bank and requested bank statements for August and had no deposit from any other than my employer in my account. My bank told me it was a scam and not to worry about it. A couple of days later they called back for the money to avoid legal action. I told them I had bank statements
We had never heard of this happening until we got a call today from 410-843-2822. They had left a message with my fiance and when I returned the calll they first said “hello”, which struck me as strange, since this was supposedly a law office. When I asked for the name of the company he kept trying to verify info. When Chad (my fiance) got on the phone they started telling him that he should answer q’s carefully as they could be used against him in court. They said that the case would be ‘downloaded’ with the courts – what kind of lawyer says that? We had applied for several loans, and had only accepted one – what we were paying back. The amount they said we owed we had never been quoted. The other strange thing is that although they both had very strong indian accents, they used very unlikely names – the supervisor said his name was Jack O’Connor. ?? ?? DO NOT FALL FOR THIS !!!! We told them to send us something in the mail and not to call again.
Not having the money to pay a debt is not a crime. It sounds like you’re dealing with scammers. The advice I gave in the articles below to your situation. Start with step # 1 and insist they email your written statement of the debt that is required by federal law. (Do not be intimidated by the fact that they have a lot of information about you – that’s very common with payday loans.)
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