Sorry to hear a scammer made your day so difficult, but we are relieved to do not send a moneygram. Those, along with prepaid cards, are popular ways for scammers to take advantage of scared consumers. But good for you for doing the research and figuring out it was a scam.
I just got a call from a very similar number- 855-216-1354. Having worked at a telephone company, it’s a good chance these numbers belong to the same company (only the last two digits are different). But, the company that called me was the Office of Progressive (??) saying my name was on some legal documents in his office. Tried calling back and the message kept looping.
I took a loan from Money and More in July 2008 and paid the loan back in Aug of 2008 with an electronic with drawl; by Money and More. I had the bank send me my bank records showing both of these trans shares however I was told that unless I had a letter from Money and More that this had been paid my bank records are useless. I have had many payday loans over the years and have never received a full payment from any of them but have always been able to contact them online to check my history can not do this with money and more and the only phone number I can find is not inserving 951-922-6286 who is the scammer ?????. The calls do not come every day they are about 1 or 2 weeks apart. guess I’ll just have to wait and see if they are doing papers on me they know a lot of my personal information as told them I would not send them my bank statements she then recited my bank account number from the account I had at that time has since changed accounts. I have asked for things in writing and have to recieve anything.
If you have a chance to make sure that this is a legitimate collection, they are still violating many FDCPA laws and we will encourage you to consult with a lawyer lawyer. You may have a strong case against the collector. To find a lawyer lawyer in your area, http:
Defaulting on a loan is not a “felony violation” and what they are saying and doing is illegal under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. The next time you talk with them, ask them to send you a confirmation of the debt-which they are required to do by law. If they refuse, you can tell them that they are breaking the law and you will pursue legal action if they continue to call and harass you.
On the other hand, this leaves about 40 percent of borrowers who were not good at predicting when they would pay the loan off. And Mann found a correlation between bad predictions and past payday loans.
DEYOUNG: Oh, I think that our history of usury laws is a direct result of our Judeo-Christian background. And even Islamic banking, which follows in the same tradition. But clearly interest on lent or borrowed money has, has been looked at non-objectively, let’s put it that way. So the shocking APR numbers if we apply them to rent a hotel or rent a car or lend your father’s gold watch or your mother’s silverware to the pawnbroker for a month, the APRs come out similar. So the shock from these numbers is, we recognize the shock here because we are used to calculate interest rates on loans but not interest rates on anything else. And it’s human nature to want to hear bad news and it’s, you know, the media understands this and so they report bad news more often than good news. We do not hear this. It’s like the houses that do not burn down and the stores that do not get robbed.
Thanks so much for doing this. You have proven you are an honorable person and no one will blame you. Everyone needs a job but you were brave enough to quit when you found out they were immoral. You have been very helpful!
There is no surefire way to stop them other than to use some kind of call screening service where only calls you approve go through. You can get some ideas from this piece I wrote: http:
To repay the loan, you will usually have a post-dated check for the full balance, including the fee, or you provide the lender with the authorization to electronically debit the funds from your bank, credit union or prepaid card account. If you do not repay the loan on or before the due date, the lender can cash the check or electronically withdraw money from your account.
I called back the next day and talked with Savanna again, a conversation that lasted about a minute because she refused to answer my questions and hung up … again. I called back and asked to speak with a Supervisor, which she obliged (at least I think, they sounded a awful lot like). The Supervisor’s name was Bella Sims … it seemed like she was trying to be helpful, I told her the address they had had, and the account at the bank was closed for 2 years when this transaction was made. Mind you, no one ever asked me for updated information or my address … their gums just kept to flap about how I was going to be served a criminal
he was not allowed to do that since I was at a negative I told him it would go thru, so I told him I would give him my daughters debit card number she had the money and she said it was to be under my name so he told me to get a cash pak (green dot) and call him back with the number on the back. I did that and have to pay another 200 on the 16th and then the other 200.00 next month because he took 300.00 off the original price I owed. I paid the $ 100 because I was scared and did not want my husband to go to jail but I told him I wanted paperwork sent to me and he said he would send it when it was paid off but he would send me a redirect to my email and I have not got it yet. I wish I knew he was really with the Federal Crime Dept like he said he is or if he is a fraud. Cause I do not want to give him anymore but I do not want my husband to go to jail. I know we got a loan thru them but it was supposed to come out of our acct everydayday but he said they tried and it was not taken out due to insufficient funds but I can not remember wheather it was paid off or not. Does anyone know a site I can look under to see if this is fraud? Please HELP
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I also received several calls from an unidentified no. but the call sounds like she’s calling from overseas and can not make out the details. I called the Lady back and a male with a great Indian accent answered “Hello this is Dominic, How can I help? I asked the man the name of the company he represents and he goes Marshall and Associates. And he asked for my phone and he goes “I do not have that number in my system”. Yeah, exactly! ‘And he continues on asking me “If I have been briefed” Briefed about what? Moron. Oh! you have a pending lawsuit on committing fraud for taking out 35 payday loans, the bank tried to collect but they can not take
Creditors are required to provide written verification of a debt within five days of contacting you. They also do not make threats they do not intend to keep – like filing charges. You can find more about your debt collection here:
No, contacting Social Security does not make sense unless you need to change your SSN which is not something easily done (or recommended). However, your information is “out there” so you may want to file a police report and at least place fraud alert on your credit reports.
Anyone ever heard of Peter Shapiro or the Shapiro Agency? Telephone 877-723-4711. This ‘person’ has called two of my family members today and told them his agency was conducting a criminal investigation of me and needed a character statement. I’m sure this is the same as those who harassed me about a payday loan from 2006 to the point where I changed my cell phone number over a year ago. They were threatening criminal action then. My daughter asked if she was a debt collector and was told no. She looked them up on the internet and found, yes, they were collectors (of some sort). Now I have been paying my Chapter 13 for 50 months now with 4 more months to go. Any bill I owed is included in that bankruptcy. So you can believe this makes me furious! I’ve tried to call the number but I’m told to hold for Pete Shapiro and then asked to leave a voice message. I want to talk to this thing to voice. Any suggestions on who and how to complain about this thing?
Rob Coleman from the Huntington Agency is another SCAM. Will call your work home and even people with you SAME LAST name as yours and leave the same threatening message. Then when you call the number back, it has been disconnected. They will not send you ANYTHING in writing. will not give you their financial mailing address either .. VERY INTESTERSTING
We had a scam call today, they called about a supposed payday loan from 2008. They called me, my husband, my daughter and my daughter in law on our cell phones. We did not even know my girlfriend in 2008, at all. They have everyone’s social and home address, including my son’s new home address. Said my husband owes them $ 2500 and that she would get papers served at her home if we did not pay. I asked them what they would have been serving the papers, she said, hold on let me look, then she changed the subject and never answered. 1-855-201-8789 was the number they gave to call back but they first call you from a private number. Once I figured out I was dealing with scam, I started to call them back informing them that I had filed reports, recorded calls from them, I read them some scam warnings about themselves off the internet, … this is how I got rid of the last scammers, I just kept calling them reminding them of how I knew they were scam and reading them things off the internet about themselves and reading them the current rules they were breaking, etc … I did not cuss or get ugly, I was just matter of fact I’m curious though of how they got my son and daughter in law and phone numbers.
mail to validate the debt.
Funny thing is, they have a website but anyone can get a website these days. They are also listed in the BBB website with a C- rating. C- because of complaints. Their website domain is via GoDaddy. Now thats classy.
MANN: If your first is that none of the people using this product would do it if they really understood what was going on – well, that just does not seem to
this is happening to me they made me buy 2 green dot cards for $ 425 i keep calling them back and they are not answering the phone. I am only 21 years of age I do not know what to do or how to get my money back. Can someone help?
I was contacted by these people
Ok this is the second call I got the first one my sister in law answered and she was given a woman’s name and a phone number and case number …. Well just a couple of days ago they left a message that guy calledly named Peter Hersh said to call this number 1-866-583-6379 and left the name of ADR Firm and that it was my last chance to contact them before I got served but he said that the state of California was suing me … .Hmmm this did scare me because I did not know why would the state be suing me? Well I’m glad I googled and this came up. It sucks this happening to us. I just like to know what we can do? Is there somewhere we can report this to?
scammers start telling you you’re going to be arrested and they’re going to garnish your salary THAT’S BULLS # $ T. That requires a court order and by law you are notified of the court date in writing so you have a chance to show up. No matter how much they threaten you NEVER give them your personal information, bank account numbers, social security anything. They’re on a fishing trip and the more info you give them, the easier it is to clean you out.Notify your family, friends and especially your boss that you are being scamed.Then if the scammers call them they will not be caught off guard.Let a stop to these theives, all debt collection is regulated by Federal Law. Get informed. Know what the Statute of Limitations is in your state. Do not answer the phone and give these scammers an invitation to make your life miserable.
has been calling from 617-933-7954 called CRS Solutions claim I have unpaid payday loans from 2008 2009 and 2010 all in fairly small 200 to $ 400 range I never took these payday loans out. but they had my old email, my real bank account with router number gave last 4 digits of SS # and knew my wife’s name.
Same phone number only was a Tina, wanted to pay me $ 690.00 to pay off pay day, asked for the original bill said they didn; t have it, gave me 1 week then garnishment called my lawyer yet to hear back.
I got a call from advanced capitol solutions for a defaulted loan i had in 2008 from another company. i googled their number 877-845-5988 and got allot of fraud comments and i cant verify they bought the debt from e corp. I send them an email to send me evidence that my attorney can try to verify. they said they can come after me for check fraud, which fake collectors always do to scare you out of some money. have not given them any acct info and now do you know what they know, anybody know of this company history?
I b. I have been receiving the same calls from Jason and Ms. Thomas from the same company in Illinois. (ALSO, SAID THEY WOULD GARNISH WAGES AND REVOKE MY LICENSE) They have now started employing americans to make these calls to make it sound legit. So I advised that I have been recording these calls for the FBI investigation that I am involved in. I am a professional lawyer and debt collector can not call you without verifying that they have the correct person and that would be done via certified mail with a summons and complaint against you. Also, if the collector such as Jason Locke and Ms. Thomas from 877-601-5871 Ext 259 and 877-601-5871 Ext 251 were real debt collectors they would have to provide written proof of the original loan, copies of the e-sign agreement between you and the lender, account numbers, telephone numbers for the lender etc … This guy Jason did not know his own address when I asked him and he could not confirm my full social security number. Also, one tip to remember is legit collectors have to say the following statement before talking with you “This is a try to collect a debt etc.”, so remember that. The unfortunately was scammed out of $ 500.00 a few years ago and I paid the fees and sent fax to them
from overseas, they are right here in the United States. I work for an outsourcing company at law firm. They called my manager on his cell phone while he was in a meeting. My manager answered it thinking that it was someone he knew since the number had the same area as the city we live in. The man on the other line told him that he was a server server and that I should call him at 855-282-0910 or I would be served papers at my job for check fraud. I already knew that this was bogus but either I called to tell them not to call my manager’s number EVER !!! When I got someone on the line, they kept telling me that I had a PDL from last year. I did not even care about that mess because they did not send me any correspondence and I know they must have violated so many laws just by diclosing that info to my manager. In the end they refused to call him and blamed it all on the server server. When I called him back, it kept going to voicemail. I even went as far as looking up his name on a website for Texas process servers. Come to find out that they can falsify caller id information so you can believe that crap. Investigative Services, whatever. Oh, the name of the collection is Westwood Asset Management. They claim that the name of their company is Huntington, but that’s bull too. I found out that they like to change names as well as numbers. Just makes me sick.
caller states they will be taking legal action, that the sheriff will be at my house or work place to serve me with papers. Knows my address and date of birth and employer. Says I owe $ 1,100.00. He says I can have my lawyer can him. He speaks with a foriegn accent and sounds exactly like the guy who called 2 months ago for another company threatening the same thing. I paid the debt last time I got SCAMED? The name the guy gave was Mr. Flood and number was 310-999-0442. Please help me !!
So, the payday business model is not like pawn shop, where you surrender your valuable possessions to raise cash. To get a payday loan, you need to have a job and a bank account. According to Pew survey data, some 12 million Americans – roughly 1 in 20 adults – take out a payday loan in a given year. They tend to be relatively young and earn less than $ 40,000; they tend to not have a four-year college degree; and while the most common borrower is a white female, the rate of borrowing is the highest among the minorities.
Maybe that’s about as good as it gets on the fringe. Outrage is easy, and outrage is warranted-but maybe payday lenders should not be its main target. The problem is not just that people who desperately need a $ 350 loan can not get it at a affordable rate, but that a growing number of people need that loan in the first place.
Ann, I just got a call last week from the same phone number. A “Juan Hernandez” has called me saying I owed on a payday loan; that it was taken out in 2008 and when the company tried to collect in 2009, there were insufficient funds. They are threatening to suspend my driver’s license unless I pay them $ 300 within 48 hours – after that, it becomes $ 1400. I was so upset, I went to the bank and got all my bank statements from December 2008 to present. Nothing returned for insufficient funds. Mr. Hernandez just called me at work today and I’m about to call him back. What a scam – happy you did not fall for it!
I’ve been receiving phone calls from a person who claims to be an investigator and tells me there are charges pending against me for a payday loan from 2009. He gave me the name of a collection agency (Global) that I called and they told me the same thing I really took out a payday loan in 2009 from this “money and more” online company. The loan was repaid and I even faxed copies of the bank statements showing this back in 2009. They say the copies of these statements are not in my file. And this “INVESTIGATOR” well his phone does not accept incoming calls, and he wants me to give him my address to send me sealed documents! I did not give any of my information as I see it, if he found out my cell phone number, then he can find out my address. This man was very rude, very aggressive and very threatening. He continues to call my phone 4 & 5 times a day. I do not know how to get rid of these people. This man, I do not know his name or who he wors for, he gave me no information, only that there were charges against me and my state “bad check writing laws” would be against me as well, pending criminal charges … ..I which often have internet access … but i get my e-mail on my phone, so if anyone would like to e-mail me with helpful information it would be much appreciated. Thank You
I’ve received calls like this before, where they call me and my work. But, today I got a call from a private investigator named John McCaffrey from 855-656-5010. The message stated that there were charges of fraud being placed against me and my attorney would have to speak about case number # 14831-TX69. He said I was to appear at my local county courthouse to take care of the mater. What was disturbing is that he also called my mother’s phone number and my sister-in-law phone number, leaving the same message from me. The message at their numbers stated that I was to appear in court at their local courthouse. How are I supposed to appear at three different courts for the same case ???? This is how to fishy !!
Someone called me yesterday claiming I’m supposed to appear in court and they will be at my home tomorrow. They then called this morning saying they will be at my him between 4 and 5pm. And leafy an “800” number for me to call. The fact that it’s a 800 number already had my skeptical. So I guess I’ll be seeing these ppl at 5 today lol … They also keep calling from an unknown number so I can not block the call.
After studying the millions of payday loans, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau found that 67 percent went to borrowers with seven or more transactions per year, and the majority of borrowers paid more in fees than the amount of their initial loan. This is why Diane Standaert, the director of state policy at the Center for Responsible Lending, says 36 percent interest-rate cap, says, “The typical borrower experience involves long-term indebtedness-that’s core to the business model.”
ITS FAKE IF YOU HAVE SOCIAL SITES AND THEY CAN GET INFO FROM SITES AND PAY TO GET YOUR PERSONAL INFO THINGS ARE HACKED SUCK AS EMAILS THAT’S Y THERE IS SPAM JUST MAKE SURE YOUR MOM DO NOT GIVE THEM MONEY THAT’S ALL THEY WANT IF IT WAS REAL JUST ASK THEM TO SEND SOMETHING IN THE MAIL THEY ALWAYS SAY WE CANT WHICH IS A LIE IF THEY ARE A REAL COMPANY IF YOUR MOM SENT MONEY ALREADY TELL HER REQUEST A REFUND FROM THE PREPAID CARD COMPANY ASAP AND CALL LOCAL POLICE DEPT I HOPE THIS HELPS THE INTERNET CAN BE YOU BEST FRIEND OR YOUR WORST ENEMY GUD LUCK
for you to show up “. If they go to blatantly, they can use their own tactics against them.
I just wondering have anyone heard of KDE Recovery Services … They called me today about a payday loan and I hung up. The lady called me back and left a very rude message on my voicemail calling me ignorant and if I did not pay she was going to sign this affidavit and have a warrant issued to my job to be arrested. It sounds like a scam but I’m not sure they say it’s a loan I had back in 2007. They have my name, address, phone numbers and social security number. it starts to really freak me out
If a legitimate collector contacted you for a legitimate debt, you could ask them stop
… and remember … do not sign anything at your doorstep …
After reading everyone’s comments it sounds like I should not give in giving them money for a PDL I never received. The scary thing is what will happen if I do not ignore this. I mean is there a real legitimate way they can have any impact on my credit or SS # or place of employment?
Jason – It absolutely sounds like the classic overseas payday loan scam. Do not send them a penny. Remember, in the US a debt collector is required to send notification of the debt to you in writing. If he does not, he’s breaking the law. Report these guys to the FTC and your state attorney general.
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