First, understand your rights when dealing with a collector. If you read through this comment, you will see many examples of fake payday loan scam collectors using scare tactics to coerce victims in paying up without researching the debt or verifying that they actually have it. In your case, if you’re positive you paid the old payday loan in full, it’s quite possible that it’s a scam. Fortunately, there are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
Perhaps a solution of sorts-something that is better, but not perfect-could come from more modest reforms to the payday-lending industry, rather than trying to transform it. There are some evidence that smart regulation can improve the business for both lenders and consumers. In 2010, Colorado revised its payday-lending industry by reducing the permissible fees, extending the minimum term of a loan to six months, and requiring that a loan be repayable over time, instead of coming due all at once. Pew reports that half of the payday stores in Colorado are closed, but now everyday payday borrowers are paying 42% less in fees and defaulting less frequently, with no reduction in access to credit. “There’s been a debate for 20 years about whether to allow payday lending or not,” says Pew’s Alex Horowitz. “Colorado shows it can be much, better.”
IT WAS A SCAM !!!!
The script and said that it was no longer there because it was now a federal obligation to pay them. My favorite part of the call was to be the ending …. “You’re only 24 right, so you do not know a lot about this or how bad this will affect you in the long run.” I called the Sheriff’s office and District Attorney’s office and filed a claim. Even the sheriff’s office said that they have had people call them because they have had phone calls telling them that there is a
Today I came in from a stressful day, phone rings and it’s some stupid chick telling me I was going to be served and did not call this number at ADR – 877-801-8348. I asked her what was she talking about. She said, “I can not tell you the records are sealed!” She said, “If you call this number that will prevent you from a lot of trouble!” I said “No thanks, I would rather know what the trouble is , serve me! “I live in a remote part of the country – PO Box only – I also knew I had not been responsible for anything illegal. Have been a grown up now for several years and knew -my life was clean! I told her if she called me back that I was going to turn her into the AG’s Office and hung up. A few minutes later my mom called some girl was looking for me and I needed to call that number. My mom is 83 and we just went through the lost, my dad and my brother-in-law. None of us need this at anytime in our lives. I WILL turn them into the authorities if they call me back. I hope everybody else will do the same. I told my mom not to even think about talking to them or anyone else who can not identify themselves or their company. It’s a shame such evil lives in our world … find a job, do something honest for a change. We have enough crap going on without these scumsuckers bothering us or moreso our parents! BTY the girls name was CORY.
Later on, the payday lenders gave Mann the data that showed how long it really took those exact customers to pay off their loans. About 60 percent of them paid off the loan within 14 days of the date they were predicted.
Miller was making substantial changes to the paper, CCRF did not exercise editorial control. That is, he says, he still had complete academic freedom to accept or reject Miller’s changes. Here’s Fusaro:
Advance America is sponsored by CFSA Best Practices and state laws concerning rescission, which allows you to rescind the transaction at no cost within a certain time period by returning the full amount of the advance. Contact your local Advance America store for state specific rescission policies.
DIANE STANDAERT: From the data we’ve seen, payday loans are disproportionately concentrated in African-American and Latino communities, and that African-American and Latino borrowers are disproportionately represented among the borrowing population.
Interesting. The fact that they are a “mediation” firm does not exempt them from the FDCPA to my knowledge. Companies that regularly collect debt for third parties are debt collectors, regardless of what they choose to call themselves. I would encourage you to file a complaint with the CFPB and your state attorney general’s office.
California requires that all California customers have their most recent pay at the file with Check ‘n Go when receiving an installment loan. For online customers, please fax or email Check ‘n Go your latest pay stub when applying for timely processing of your loan.
Saying you’re going to be arrested for fraud because you have not paid your payday loan is a bogus threat. The fact that they have all this information about you does not mean it is a legitimate collection attempt. And the fact that you want to pay with a moneypack is a big red flag. I would suggest you turn the tables on them and report them to the Federal Trade Commission and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (consumerfinance.gov). Next time they call start the conversation by telling them you are going to record the call to deliver to law enforcement – and do so!
My husband and I filed bankruptcy due to unforeseen circumstances and we had an outstanding payday loan. My attorney explained to us that a payday loan is treated as an unsecured debt and would file the papers and there was no need to worry about this because it would be included in the bankruptcy as unsecured. Needless to say I got a very dangerous call from a company called US Capital Management (855) 596-0411. They said they represented MYMONEYCHEST.com and they would see us in court for a balance. I asked the woman to contact my attorney and they said they could not because they are just the middle man in this. I told her if there is a balance and we are currently in a bankruptcy, there should be no reason they could not reach out to our attorney. I called my attorney and he said to have them call him. They will not! They told me that they were going to serve me papers at my job. Is this possible? Can they do that? I can not get them to give me any paperwork about this balance owed.
They called my 87-year-old mother and she asked them how they got her phone number, and a woman said that I had put her down as a contact. However, her new phone number is barely a year old and is not the one given at the time of the payday loan.
Protections for servicemembers. There are special protections through the federal Military Lending Act (MLA) for active duty servicemembers and their dependents. These protections include a cap of 36 percent on the Military Annual Percentage Rate (MAPR) as well as other limitations on what lenders can pay for payday and other consumer loans. Contact your local Advocate General’s (JAG) office to learn more about lending restrictions. You can use the JAG Legal Assistance Office locator to find help.
He said he worked for Morgan Lewis on behalf of Money & More. He had all my personal information, bank information, ssn, dob. He told me I had committed internet fraud by taking out a loan and not paying it back. I did not remember to take out a loan online & told him I did not remember to take out a loan on the internet. He then told me that he had email transactions and verification from my bank that the ACH withdrawal was declined twice so I had committed internet fraud and was going to jail. He then hung up on me.
I’m getting calls often, different numbers, started about a week ago.It is scary, and upsetting.Latest is from 1-718-841-6480.Thaey call work, threatens to file charges against me, I will be arrested if I don i pay.A guy tried to get me $ 560 immediately.I didn’t.Help
I was contacted by the same company and paid. Did not receive a receipt either. Then I contacted the company they said I supposedly owed the money to. The payday loan company looked up my info and said I had never had a loan with them and advised me to call my bank. My Bank is now going after PDLR group for fraud.
I have to warn you that even some of the attorneys I know who regularly sue debt collectors who break the law will not touch the cases that involve payday loans. Even if they are successful defending the client, they tell me, they can not collect. This may not be the case with all collectors, but I have to warn you that you can be dealing with very aggressive collection agencies here.
I received a call today from # 209-910-6390. Could not catch the name as he spoke very fast and with a deep accent. He claimed that he was calling on behalf of Cash Advance America USA that was suing me for $ 15,000 for a faulty payday loan of $ 2800.00. I let him give his little talk without interrupting and he told me that someone would be here Friday at 11:00 a.m. to take me to California for my court date on Monday at 11:00 a.m. Beware these guys are getting very crafty and make a lot of stuff that they say they believe. Please DO NOT believe these guys. I just told him thank you for the call and that I would be contacting the FBI about the call because I knew from the start that it was a scam !!! He just said go ahead and that somebody would be at my work tomorrow.
After having to close some of my business location, and not knowing what to do with the debt. Erin and her staff came very recommended to me. Erin answered all of my question and went through this very stressful process of bankruptcy. I can not imagine Erin and her staff enough for all the … Read More
Ron – You sure should report this to your local law enforcement. There may not be a whole lot you can do but it’s important to file a complaint. (You can also file a complaint with your state attorney general and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.)
I recently got a call from someone from a company called Alliance. They called my work number. When I called them back the man said that if I did not pay the loan back they would get me for fraud and breach of contract. I gave them my debit card information. I then did some research. I could not find the company’s information online and the company they said I owed number was disconnected. I cancelled my card and then call Alliance back and asked for a validation letter. The man said they were a paperless company and they could only send Emails. I told him I wanted in writing. Of course he refused and hung up. I got a call from the next day from another guy stating that the card was declined and I needed to handle it right now. I told him not without the letter I asked for. So I hung up. The next day I got a call from a lady stating that this was my final warning and I needed to contact them immediately. I never received the letter or Email and I still can not locate this company by the address they gave me, name or phone number. I was also contacted by another company named D 2 management. They said the same thing that I owed for a pay day loan. The lady identified himself as an officer. I have read online about this company and everyone is saying they are a scam. I have contacted the BBB and consumer affairs so far. I really want to know if these two companies are really scam companies. Please Help!
I have suppose to be a Payday Loan Recovery Group with the phone number 1 877 258 1188 saying that Net Loan USA has sent my name to them for a payment I know nothing about and they are going to garnish my check, I just do not know what to do They have too much information on me and I do not know what they are able to do, I wonder how they got my information. I have someone calling me they are from Allegal Dept. ACS. Asking for money. I looked them up and they are a ripoff.The number they call from is 813 262 0349.
They ARE scams. Offshore scammers who threaten you and your family. I’m threatened to have my CIA brother in law “hellfire down on them and their families that they wish they were never born!” Taken from the scene where Tom Cruise talks to the terrorists in the movie ‘tropic Thunder ‘. I’m going to call them every day until eternity threatens them and their families with serious bodily harm and of course they will just disappear when the CIA catches up to them! Lol!
When you accept the terms and conditions for a loan, you are agreeing to pay back the principal loan and finance charges in the amount of time shown in the documents provided by your lender. Additional fees or charges by your lender may apply in the event that you can not repay your loan in full or if you make a late payment. We can not predict the amount of fees that you will incur as a result of non-payment, late payment, or partial payment. Additionally, we have no knowledge of the loan details between you and your lender. Please refer to the late payment, partial payment, and non-payment policies detailed in the loan documents provided by your lender. Our company makes a good effort to work only with reputable lenders who live by Fair Debt Collection Practices. If you have a complaint about a specific lender, please contact us.
Just received a call from PDLR Recovery systems about a payday loan that was supposedly taken out 2 or 3 years ago and they were willing to settle for $ 500.00. I had originally made an arrangement with them. I then called them to cancel the arrangement at which time they said they were going to call my office and start the garnishment proceedings. After reading your cover page and asking for the actual credit information as well as information to the collection they worked for, they suddenly hang up. Thank you for the advice.
my fiancé has been getting phone calls from someone saying he is an official mike Johnson from 810-223-0563 said he got a loan for $ 300 over the internet but he did not. he applied for some loans but because his credit is bad and no bank account he could not get one. this guy says he got one but he told us where he was from and like most of you he had his name ss # where he works and is threating to have him arrested. We talked to a cop who said that if we had applied for a loan even over the internet they would have mailed out paperwork anyway with PAYMENT OPTIONS and how long you had to pay it back we got nothing and the pretend cop will not give us the It’s a good idea that we have a lot of money, but we have no money for it. what do you do when they keep threatening you and you have no idea what they are talking about.
I received a call yesterday from a law office stating that they were going to have me arrested for fraud and theft for not paying a payday loan. They said that it had been over 21 days since I made a payment and that if I wanted to go out of court that all I needed to do was put $ 385 on a green dot moneypak card by today. I have taken out two payday loans just recently and just had my first payment due on Friday which I paid. The number that they are calling from is 401-648-7325 by Lisa Green. She also said that the money had been deposited in my account and when they tried to pay out they were not able to. They also did not give me information on when the deposit took place and what company the payday loan was through. This sounds like a lot of the other posts that I have read but I do not want to take the chance of being arrested … what do I do ??
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Hi I just received a call today from a company named Retrieval mediation phone # (614) 340-7363 claiming that I did online payday loan back in 2010. What I do not have my question has anyone heard of this company. The lady gave me a name Karry Watson but would not give me the address to the company
Advance America follows all applicable federal and state laws, and the ability to have multiple loans depends on the state regulations. Please keep in mind that having more than one loan out at the same time could make it more difficult to repay your loans.
Typically your loan will be due on your next payday. Each state has its own set of rules and regulations that we follow. To find out more about your state, please contact a store near you. Find a store.
Payday loan scam – 804-728-0872 call my job asking for the manager over 100 times a day, saying, “I have to pay money from an old payday loan debt – I contacted the police about it. Used several different phone numbers to call me on, couldnt speak english well. Wanted to find out personal information about me from other people, etc. Very bad man.
First, Mann wanted to gauge borrowers’ expectations – how long they thought it would take them to pay back a payday loan. So he created a survey that was given out to borrowers in a few dozen payday loan shops across five states.
The only insight we can offer at this point is that it’s very likely it’s a scam. If it was a legitimate collector, they would be violating many laws under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. Thankfully, you did the right thing and did not fall for it.
Ok I’ve been reading everyday experience with these people who started with me last year saying that i have a payday company that my ssn had something attached to it from the general saying that I was going to be put in jail if i didnt pay … they would call me on my cell back to back..one day i answered the call and told them to send this to me in writing … they said they would but did not like i guessed .. that i would be arrested and jailed if i did not pay … this would happen every month i would get someone talking in broken english saying that i need to call them -some of the numbers and names ..
That does sound sound, does not it? A typical credit card rate is around 15 percent, maybe 20 or higher if you have bad credit. But to the payday-loan industry, a proposal of 36 percent is not reasonable at all.
In your case it sounds so much like the rest of the scams others have shared here on this post so it’s wise to keep on guard. The next time they call, try to get as much contact information about the company – including address, contact phone, name, etc. – then ask them to please provide written documentation in the mail to validate the debt. As we have stated in previous posts, this is a standard procedure when dealing with any debt collector and by law, the collector must comply with this request. If they refuse, they are breaking the law under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and have no right to continue to try to collect. In fact, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, if a collector contacts you by phone they have 5 days in which to send you formal written notice that you owe the debt. The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and your right to dispute the debt, in writing, within 30 days of receipt of the notice.
Cream – do not respond or engage any further. A legitimate collector would not send all of this through email. We will also encourage you to file a formal complaint – of which you have several options – and you may even wish to forward the email in question to help investigate the fraud
Help !! I keep receiving calls [from a woman] stating she is from dept of investigations out if it’s housed in the internet payday lian I tool in 2006. Since then I filed bankruptcy in 2010 I do not know if included in bankruptcy cause if they sell it I whose name she keeps threatening me with stop and desist I have paid them sone money like $ 1500.00 and she said if I didnt make arrangements they would turn ovrr yo stste and have me arrested for fraud I do not know whst to do and I on disability now and cant go to jail. Please help with any advice sndo took money adsin out my account wuthout permission. Any advice ?? She said I wrote bank check I told her I did not give them a check in 2006
DeYOUNG: Well, in a short sentence that’s very scientific I would start by saying, “Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.” The question comes down to how we identify the water here and how do we identify the baby here. One way is to collect a lot of information, as the CFPB suggests, about the creditworthiness of the borrower. But that brings up production cost of payday loans and will probably put the industry out of business. But I think we can all agree that once someone pays a fee in an aggregate amount equal to the amount that was originally borrowed, that’s pretty clear that there’s a problem there.
I was getting a call in florida saying that if I did not pay or call them back they would send a cop to pick me up and that I had 15 mins to call back..won’t send me any information about anything .. also calling my work saying if I did not call back my bosses would not see me for a long time they said it was state wide adr 1-888-825-3116 they were too aggressive too
There is a long and often twisted history of industries co-opting scientists and other academic researchers to produce findings that make their industries look safe or more reliable or otherwise better than they really are. Whenever we talk about academic research on this show – which is pretty much every week – we try to show the provenance of that research and establish how legitimate it is. The best first step in figuring that out is to ask what kind of incentives are at play. But that is only one step.
By the way, you can not be arrested just because you can not afford to pay a debt. (Warning, however, there are cases where consumers are jailed in connection with debts because they failed to appear in court after a summary was issued.)
This person called my job and blocked their number. He left me a message saying his name is Michael Hunter and that he is the senior locator for the processing and summons division for the state of Florida. He said I needed to contact my case worker, Mr. Moss immediately about 2 fraud charges against me for writing bad checks and that need to serve me with a warrant. I did not call them back and did google search on this and saw it’s some kind of a scam. They have also called my job, but we have a call center who would not put the call through. He said I needed to call 1-888-978-4319 extension 147 and that my case number is 431-923
U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren (left) talks with Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Director Richard Cordray after he testified about Wall Street reform at the 2014 Senate Banking Committee hearing. (Jonathan Ernst
Not having the money to pay a debt is not a crime. It sounds like you’re dealing with scammers. The advice I gave in the articles below to your situation. Start with step # 1 and insist they email your written statement of the debt that is required by federal law. (Do not be intimidated by the fact that they have a lot of information about you – that’s very common with payday loans.)
Shani – You should NOT pay a debt collector without first verifying the debt. Now that they know you will pay, they will probably intensify their efforts. I recommend you file complaints with your state attorney general office and the Federal Trade Comission. You may also have to call screening through your phone company if they will not stop calling you.
I got a call from a guy claiming he was the guy that was sent to serve me for check fraud for a check I wrote a check on December 25, 2007. Honestly who would write a payday one loan on Christmas day. This made me suspect that something is funny. He called me from an unknown number. The guy gave me a 1-877-540 number and a case number which was only a few numbers. I called the number the guy acted like him
I did, however, take out a payday loan from a company named Cash Web, who promptly sold my info to a company called Hydra Loans. Perfect name as they had dozens of other such businesses. They put money in my account, though I never saw a contract or signed a thing; not even a phone call I paid them back the principle immediately but they still tried to get money out of my account (not even on paydays though they claim I applied for the loan and spoke to someone on the phone to set it up). I had to close my account and open a new one to stop them. Now, years later I’ll get these calls or letters, but nothing will ever happen. I ignore them, but if I had the time and money, I would love to get them I to court.
At no point during this aggressive voice mail did he identify his company or any affiliation to another company
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