If a legitimate collector contacted you for a legitimate debt, you could ask them stop
Rob Coleman from the Huntington Agency is another SCAM. Will call your work home and even people with you SAME LAST name as yours and leave the same threatening message. Then when you call the number back, it has been disconnected. They will not send you ANYTHING in writing. will not give you their financial mailing address either .. VERY INTESTERSTING
I worked. I got all the information from the lady (who at the point was very nice and helpful). I then contacted my bank and requested bank statements for August and had no deposit from any other than my employer in my account. My bank told me it was a scam and not to worry about it. A couple of days later they called back for the money to avoid legal action. I told them I had bank statements
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DeYOUNG: Well, in a short sentence that’s very scientific I would start by saying, “Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.” The question comes down to how we identify the water here and how do we identify the baby here. One way is to collect a lot of information, as the CFPB suggests, about the creditworthiness of the borrower. But that brings up production cost of payday loans and will probably put the industry out of business. But I think we can all agree that once someone pays a fee in an aggregate amount equal to the amount that was originally borrowed, that’s pretty clear that there’s a problem there.
The Illinois Attorney General’s Office says the bogus debt collectors have heard about using various names, including: Morgan & Associates, Federal Bureau of Investigators, DNR Recovery, DNI Recovery, Legal Accounts Association, Department of Law and Enforcement, CashNet USA , American Legal Services, Quick Cash, and ACS. If you hear from any of these companies, be sure to report them immediately to your state Attorney General’s office and the Federal Trade Commission
I spoke with a lady named Savanna from the “Division of Processing”, who told me that I had On-Line Pay-Day Loan through Kenwood Services from 2010 that was unpaid and that it was determined that I did it with the intent to commit fraud money. The amount was for $ 420.00, but with fees added they were $ 1820.00 and additional court fees of $ 2500.00 would be added. When I began to ask questions (I thought that the account they claimed I put in the application was closed in 2008, and the address that was for me was 8 years old), she started to get angry with me. All I was doing was trying to get information about the original debt, which she could not give me. She also told me that I was going to be served in a criminal summary and prosecuted for Financial Fraud. When I started explaining to her the law about debt collection, the statute of limitation for legal action on such a debt, and that threatened me with crime action was indeed, illegal, she first told me “do not tell me how to do my job … “. Eventually, she hung up.
I did, however, take out a payday loan from a company named Cash Web, who promptly sold my info to a company called Hydra Loans. Perfect name as they had dozens of other such businesses. They put money in my account, though I never saw a contract or signed a thing; not even a phone call I paid them back the principle immediately but they still tried to get money out of my account (not even on paydays though they claim I applied for the loan and spoke to someone on the phone to set it up). I had to close my account and open a new one to stop them. Now, years later I’ll get these calls or letters, but nothing will ever happen. I ignore them, but if I had the time and money, I would love to get them I to court.
ITS FAKE IF YOU HAVE SOCIAL SITES AND THEY CAN GET INFO FROM SITES AND PAY TO GET YOUR PERSONAL INFO THINGS ARE HACKED SUCK AS EMAILS THAT’S Y THERE IS SPAM JUST MAKE SURE YOUR MOM DO NOT GIVE THEM MONEY THAT’S ALL THEY WANT IF IT WAS REAL JUST ASK THEM TO SEND SOMETHING IN THE MAIL THEY ALWAYS SAY WE CANT WHICH IS A LIE IF THEY ARE A REAL COMPANY IF YOUR MOM SENT MONEY ALREADY TELL HER REQUEST A REFUND FROM THE PREPAID CARD COMPANY ASAP AND CALL LOCAL POLICE DEPT I HOPE THIS HELPS THE INTERNET CAN BE YOU BEST FRIEND OR YOUR WORST ENEMY GUD LUCK
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First I looked up this 712th court crap and found that it is a site that allows people to print fake legal documents. I pasted this on my email and sent it to them. I also found the same letter on a website that was sent to me, so in my second email to
FULMER: If you associate the cost of paying our rent to our local owners, paying our light bill and electrical fees, paying our other fees to local merchants who provide services to us, we operate on a relatively thin margin.
I did not give her my new address. I know the debt is not mine and sound bogus. As my bank representative pointed out it, if the debt was real I would have noticed either the money being withdrawn or would have seen a bunch overdrawn transactions. The Account was active until last week when I closed it. So he said the only way they do not get paid is if you withdraw all your money or you close the account the loan is linked to. So that’s what’s setting off some red flags that this may be scam.
She said, “I’ve got $ 455, that if I made a payment or paid that today, that would be closed and I would not go to court. But if I did go to court, I would be looking after costs
was fishy and it was a scam this guy was rude threating and harassing me to pay $ 920 i want to find this guy and charge him with threatening and harassment and i know i can tell if anyone has the same problem or is sueing him please and thank you
DEYOUNG: Yes, I like to think of myself as an objective observer of social activity, as an economist. But there is one section of the blog where we highlight mixed evidence. That helps you to reduce the risk of money at home level. And we also point to, I believe, an equal number of studies in that section that find the exact opposite. And then of course there is another section in the blog where we point directly to rollovers and rollovers is where the rubber hits the road on this. If we can somehow predict which folks will not be able to handle this product and will roll it over incessantly, then we can impress on payday lenders not to make the loans to those people. This product, in fact, is especially badly suited to predict this because the payday lender gets a small number of pieces of information when she makes the loan, as opposed to the information that a regulated financial institution would collect. The cost of collecting that information, of underwriting the loan in the traditional way that a bank would be, would be too high for the payday to offer the product. If we load up additional costs on the production of these loans, the loans will not be profitable any longer.
• Ask the collector for the name and address of the collection agency for which he or she works. Then ask him to send you written information about the debt. Any legitimate debt collection agency will do this because it is required under the federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
Same phone number only was a Tina, wanted to pay me $ 690.00 to pay off pay day, asked for the original bill said they didn; t have it, gave me 1 week then garnishment called my lawyer yet to hear back.
I just had my first run with one of these “companies.” I immediately knew that it was gibberish but decided to play along. They were immediately taken by the fact I have a British accent but continue their charade. I initially spoke with a woman and the number was 0000. Typically I do not pick up these strange numbers as I assume it’s some sort of scam but I had a itch. She picked up said something and immediately handed the phone over to another counterpart. He of course made claims to a loan I took out in 2008, I believe. Along with fraud check and two other false claims. I immediately said that I was only 16 than though he continued the pressure. Statements of we sent you multiple EMAILS, you’ll receive a summon, etc. After he continued to talk about me I said in a very naive way “He said in his absurdly thick accent” of course. “I than yelled” you such a person I I was a student of law and the likeliness of convincing me of any truth was impossible. “He continued to press me and I slyly said a remark in Spanish than hung up. The fact that I was 16 in said year and British alone should have made him end the call, very foolish tactic. They called me BACK RIGHT AFTER AS WELL. I can also complain of the heavy background noise, completely spineless people praying on Americans suffering through enough of a crisis as is. If I receive another call I will take some of these actions to try and help in ceasing this callous behavior.
They ARE scams. Offshore scammers who threaten you and your family. I’m threatened to have my CIA brother in law “hellfire down on them and their families that they wish they were never born!” Taken from the scene where Tom Cruise talks to the terrorists in the movie ‘tropic Thunder ‘. I’m going to call them every day until eternity threatens them and their families with serious bodily harm and of course they will just disappear when the CIA catches up to them! Lol!
WERTH: So far, so good. But I think we should mention two things here: one, Fusaro had a co-author on the paper. Her name is Patricia Cirillo; she’s the president of a company named Cypress Research, which is by the way, is the same survey firm that produced data for the paper you mentioned earlier, about how payday borrowers are pretty good at predicting when they will be able to pay back their loans. And the other point, two, there was a long chain of e-mails between Marc Fusaro, the academic researcher here, and the CCRF. And what they show is they really look like editorial interference.
Recd a call from 877-269-0088 from Miss Rios stating that I had 5000 for a payday loan first of all you could not take that much money and the second of all if it was from 2 yrs ago and when I asked them to send docs They said they did not have I told them I do not pay anything unless I signed it and I have copies of it. They threaten to garnish my wages, they could not understand what they were from. Then just today I call from phone number 877-258-1188 from Miss Berry stating that my payment was not gone thru well duh not i did not have anything and she left me a msg to call her back in 2 days as she was going to garnish my salary fat I worked for the federal govt and they wld love to see this come thru talk about jail time i am lmao on this one already contacted authorities and changed bank accts BEWARE THEY ARE IDIOTS
in giving your money to scammers. First, you can ask the caller to verify the debt. By law, you are entitled to documentation, sent via postal mail, which shows the debt is yours. You can find more information here: The Ultimate Guide to Debt Collection. Please read it, and do not pay money you do not have.
I was called yesterday and the call said that my payday loan was in default. If I did not pay the amount they would send me to court. Can i go to jail !? They kept using the term “financial fraud” which freaked me out! I did not pay the amount yesterday so they said I would get served today. What’s going to happen? Can I get I jail for this !?
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It can be frustrating and embarrassing when debt collectors call relatives, and, as you suspect, some debt collectors use tactics that are not legal. But, as a consumer, you are not powerless. Here are three Credit.com articles you may find useful, and thanks for alerting others to the kind of treatment you have received.
DeYoung, along with three co-authors, recently published an article about payday loans on Liberty Street Economics. That’s a blog run by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Another co-author, Donald Morgan, is Assistant Vice President at the New York Fed. The article is entitled “Reframing the Debate About Payday Lending.”
DUBNER: Well, here’s what it looks like, at least, the puzzle, which is that repeat rollovers – which represents a relatively small number of the borrowers and are a problem for those borrowers – but it sounds like though those repeat rollovers are the source of a lot of the lender’s profits. So, if you were to eliminate the big problem from the consumer’s side, would not that remove the profit from the lender’s side, maybe kill the industry?
DEYOUNG: This is why price caps are a bad idea. Because if the solution was implemented as I suggest and, in fact, payday lenders lost some of their most profitable customers – because now we’re not getting that fee the 6th and 7th time from them – then the price would have to go up. And we would not let the market determine whether or not at that high price we still have the need to use the product.
I’ve been receiving calls from someone who is saying i owe money to a first american cash advance first of all i can not even get a payday loan in the military besides that they have been calling my real work place and it has been difficult the I do not know what that means but i say they work for the fbi and if i do not pay i can go to prison well i never even get anything in the mail about This is as well as not having a payday loan so i know it fake I just want them to stop calling and harassing me what should i do? They should like oversea people I can not even understand them and they are saying there’s going to be investigated so what can I do?
Cost of a payday loan. Many state laws set a maximum amount for payday loan fees ranging from $ 10 to $ 30 for every $ 100 borrowed. A typical two-week payday loan with $ 15 per $ 100 fee equates to an annual percentage rate (APR) of about 400 percent. By comparison, APRs on credit cards can range from about 12 percent to about 30 percent. In many states that allow payday lending, the cost of the loan, fees, and the maximum loan amount are capped.
We had a call from Marshall & Fields law office in California, they said, demanding attorney info on an old loan back to 2009 from paydayone, well that has been paid for, then they wanted info, then they called my brother as he was listed I’m sorry, they gave me a number to call back to 740-364-0537 ,, they guy couldnt speak any english but ask the info he asked well i hang up and wait for the next call ,, I hope he understands english as he is going to get an earfull
I was contacted by someone at my work number saying they are from Quick Cash who bought a debt from Cash Call saying they are coming to my work in an hour. I asked for their phone number and they would not give it to me. Just that if I did not pay over $ 1,000 today, they were coming to my work. They would not give me any information. Sounded like a call center. They said they had a case against me in the county where I live. Well, I work for a firm firm and look up online to see, there are no cases against me. How do I get them to stop when I have no phone number or information? Thank you!
IT WAS A SCAM !!!!
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FULMER: We have to wait for the final proposal rules to come out. But where they appear to go is down a path that would simply eliminate a product instead of reforming the industry or better regulating the industry.
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You should not be frightened by email threats with online payday loans. They are almost certainly scams. Legitimate debt collectors know that under federal law they must send written notification of the debt. Do not engage with these folks and feel free to report them to the Internet Crime Complaint Center. Please read: 9 Signs You Are Talking to Debt Collection Scammer
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I recently got a call from someone from a company called Alliance. They called my work number. When I called them back the man said that if I did not pay the loan back they would get me for fraud and breach of contract. I gave them my debit card information. I then did some research. I could not find the company’s information online and the company they said I owed number was disconnected. I cancelled my card and then call Alliance back and asked for a validation letter. The man said they were a paperless company and they could only send Emails. I told him I wanted in writing. Of course he refused and hung up. I got a call from the next day from another guy stating that the card was declined and I needed to handle it right now. I told him not without the letter I asked for. So I hung up. The next day I got a call from a lady stating that this was my final warning and I needed to contact them immediately. I never received the letter or Email and I still can not locate this company by the address they gave me, name or phone number. I was also contacted by another company named D 2 management. They said the same thing that I owed for a pay day loan. The lady identified himself as an officer. I have read online about this company and everyone is saying they are a scam. I have contacted the BBB and consumer affairs so far. I really want to know if these two companies are really scam companies. Please Help!
I am confused. Why would a debt collector say that money you paid them was refundable? Perhaps you were applying for a loan? If so, and if this is an advance loan loan scam, the promise refund is worthless. Did you wire money to them via Western Union by chance? If so, then it’s probably gone to someone overseas already.
If you have a chance to make sure that this is a legitimate collection, they are still violating many FDCPA laws and we will encourage you to consult with a lawyer lawyer. You may have a strong case against the collector. To find a lawyer lawyer in your area, http:
consumers, is going too far. Under the plan it is now considering, lenders would have to make sure that borrowers can repay their loans and cover other living expenses without extensive defaults or reborrowing. These actions would really seem to curtail the possibility of people falling into debt traps with payday lenders. But the industry argues that the rules would be put out of business. And while a self-serving howl of pain is precisely what you would expect from any industry under government fire, this appears, based on the business model, to be true-not only would the regulations eliminate the very loans from which the industry makes its money, but they would also introduce significant new underwriting costs on every loan.
Just because they have a lot of information about you does not mean it’s legitimate. These companies are somehow getting access to very detailed information about consumers who applied for and
Here’s how our cash advance loans work: You fill out our quick online application. On approval, we will tell you the amount you qualify for. You can then use the cash to pay off unxpected expenses or bills. When your cash advance is due, usually on your next payday, you pay us back the borrowed amount plus a fee. That’s all there is to it.
It may seem inconceivable that a company could not make money collecting interest at a 36 percent annual clip. One reason it’s true is that default rates are high. A study in 2007 by two economists, Mark Flannery and Katherine Samolyk, found that defaults account for more than 20 percent of operating expenses at payday-loan stores. By comparison, loan losses in 2007 at small U.S. commercial banks accounted for only 3 percent of expenses, according to the Kansas City Fed. This is not surprising, given that payday lenders do not look carefully at the borrower’s income, expenses, or credit history to ensure that she can repay the loan: That underwriting process, the bedrock of conventional lending, would be ruinously expensive when applied to a $ 300, two-week loan. Instead, lending to the borrower’s checking account-but if that’s empty due to other withdrawals or overdrafts, it’s empty.
MANN: If your first is that none of the people using this product would do it if they really understood what was going on – well, that just does not seem to
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I’m really scared. We got this phone call from this legal processing center accusing us the 2 charges with the state and both of them are felonies according to anyone who said on the phone. That we will be thrown to jail for 85 months if we do not take care of the money … It was for a check 570 and now all the fees added up to 970 and how our case was turned to the state that is why they they call us … that they can issue a warrant for arrest if we do not care of the money …
I got a call from some lady her name was emily clark stating that she was an investigator and that i owed ab payday loan from back on 2010 she was rude and treated me to report to my county so I can be arrested for check fraud to the payday finance intrance i fraked out because the time I was getting those kind of loans so I agreed to pay them when I asked about my options to pay they said that i owed them a total of 950 usd but it will settle for 600 or 3 payments of 300 when I took my option that said I had an hour to pay them to a cvs or waltmart and get a money graham and send it to the Company It really sounded fishy so I gave them excuses to not be I can not tell you what they’re doing.
Jessica – It sure sounds like a scam to me. Unfortunately you’re not going to get the money you paid back but hopefully you can stop further withdrawals. To be safe, talk with your bank, explain what happened and find out if you need to take other steps to protect yourself. Now that you’ve paid something they will probably be relentless in their efforts to get more money from you. I recommend you also read my article, 7 Ways to Stop Overseas Debt Collection Scam Calls.
I was upset. I looked up Money & More online to see if there was a phone number that I could call to see if I could get more information since they were the ones I did business with. The website has no phone numbers. This to me is crazy. I had made a google search for Money and More when looking for their number. There are several forums and postings about scams to collect a debt from unsuspecting people. Most people are saying too that it was from 2008.
For a while now, we’ve been getting complaints from Credit.com readers about fake payday loan debt collectors. I’m not surprised when I read the announcement this week by Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan warns Illinois residents to “be on the alert for scam artists posing as collectors of payday loan debt. The scammers call consumers and threaten them with legal action unless the victims authorize payments from their bank accounts. “Her office has received many complaints.
Thanks for taking us step-by-step with how you checked out the person calling you. The steps you took, and the reports you made are smart – was not being scared or panicked in paying someone you did not have. Thanks for sharing.
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