Have a message today from “Courtney” claiming to be a self-employed server and that I am scheduled to be published on the 21st. She said she normally does not call forward but because of the situation she was this time. She said if I was uncomfortable receiving papers for which I did not know about that to contact the originating company. Then she left their number 855-461-0744 and a “case number”. The first thing I did is try to lookup the phone number but no reference to it anywhere on the interwebs? Okay, start to sound fishy. So I call the number, but of course it’s after 7pm Eastern (4: 30p for me) so I get a chance to leave a voicemail. The voicemail greeting was for Jonathan Vadeer?
Some other academic research we’ve mentioned today does not recognize the role of CCRF in providing industry data – like Jonathan Zinman’s paper which showed that people suffered from the disappearance of payday-loan shops in Oregon. Here’s what Zinman writes in an author’s note: “Thanks to the Consumer Credit Research Foundation (CCRF) for providing home survey data. CCRF is a non-profit organization, funded by payday lenders, with the mission of funding objective research. CCRF did not exercise any editorial control over this paper. ”
I was contacted a month ago from a company stating I had 2 pending charges through the state. I called them. It was for a payday loan through CashNet in 2009. They had a check number and my bank account info so I figured it was legit as at the time I took out those types of loans. They also told me they sent me a letter to the address I previously lived at and threatened to issue a warrant for my arrest. Of course it scared the crap out of me, so my husband paid this. I got a confirmation number, but as of yet, no paper work. YEsterday I received another call and voicemail. I checked it today and it was the same thing form a different company. Thankfully I wrote down all the information from the one company I did pay. I called this number and the lady started giving me the exact same thing the other company did. But with a different date the loan was taken out. I said it was for cashnet in the amount of $$$. she agreed. I said I paid this, I have a confirmation number, phone number and name of whom I dealt with. I looked in my husbands check register so now I have the date and company that pulled the money. Her reply was “I will speak to my attorney and if he has any questions he will call you.”
I’ve been contacted back to someone I’ve been in touch with you and I’ve been in touch with you. The time if the loan and now I have only part time job so she said either I pay four hundred dollars or I will go to jail. Someone please help me is this real.
There are several things wrong here, but the fact that your mother in law is having long conversations about your debts with the collector that’s calling. This is a violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. Collectors are not allowed to discuss their reason for calling or sharing details about your debt with anyone other than you (or your spouse). Divorce tends to bring out the worst in some and it sounds like your going to be one of them.
DUBNER: Now, Bob, the blog post is a pop version of a meta-study, which rolls up other research on different pieces of the issue. I’m sorry that the studies that you cite in the post are not just the biased rantings of some ultra-right-wing pro-market-at-all-cost lunatics. And I realize that at least one of the primary studies was authored by yourself, so I guess I’m asking you to prove that you are not an ultra-right-wing pro-market-at-all-cost lunatic.
Advance America follows all applicable federal and state laws, and the ability to have multiple loans depends on the state regulations. Please keep in mind that having more than one loan out at the same time could make it more difficult to repay your loans.
I ask them to give me the number to the payday loan company and they gave me a number and I called them and tried told me that I looked like a real nice lady so they would wave the fee and everything I would have to pay back is just the $ 300 i borrowed and he told me to wait 15 because he was going to fax the law firm. So I’m going to go back and call the guy I talked with. Sean Williams told me that they offered it and went to Walgreens and got a vanilla reload network card and called them and gave them the 10 digit number on the back. So my stupid a ** did it. Well then he said he would have to call me back with my confermation number? Really ?? Well then 15 minutes after I paid them I got a call from MO telling me the exact same thing !!! And I blew up and said well maybe I need to get a lawyer and sue you! Then he goes on to tell me that he is going to follow thinking with more prosicution and that only God can help me now and hung up. So I called the firm from OK and they said it was because I owed another loan. Which I do. But mind you just got these loans on March 1, 2013 and the other March 5, 2013. How can they already be in default? Anyway a man named Ted or Tod Cummings spoke with me and said I lied to his officer. Sean Williams. And did not tell him I had another loan. Ok if you could pull up the other one why not you pull up that one? All this makes since after I’ve done give them $ 300! Then he told me to see what I could do about getting the other loan taken care of on a different vanilla prepaid card. That it was not the same card as I used before. Why? It’s reloadable. He told me he talked with the free credit and everything. I have anxiety issues have got so scared I threw up. The number they called from was 580-823-1582. So I got mad an look the number up online! It’s a cell phone the person who owns the phone is named Time. What law is you going to call from a cell phone? I can not believe I let them get me !!!!!
… and remember … do not sign anything at your doorstep …
I started doing research about the organization and I had checked the Better Business Bureau and had lots of complaints and rated with an “F”. I did not contact Check N Go about which company they sold the account to and it was not PDL so I’m wondering how they got my information. I had given PDL $ 25 just for them to stop calling me so much I wonder if I should have done that.
DEYOUNG: If we take an objective look at the folks who use payday lending, what we find is that most users of the product are very satisfied with the product. Survey results show that almost 90 percent of the users of the product say that they are either somewhat satisfied or very satisfied with the product afterwards.
ITS FAKE IF YOU HAVE SOCIAL SITES AND THEY CAN GET INFO FROM SITES AND PAY TO GET YOUR PERSONAL INFO THINGS ARE HACKED SUCK AS EMAILS THAT’S Y THERE IS SPAM JUST MAKE SURE YOUR MOM DO NOT GIVE THEM MONEY THAT’S ALL THEY WANT IF IT WAS REAL JUST ASK THEM TO SEND SOMETHING IN THE MAIL THEY ALWAYS SAY WE CANT WHICH IS A LIE IF THEY ARE A REAL COMPANY IF YOUR MOM SENT MONEY ALREADY TELL HER REQUEST A REFUND FROM THE PREPAID CARD COMPANY ASAP AND CALL LOCAL POLICE DEPT I HOPE THIS HELPS THE INTERNET CAN BE YOU BEST FRIEND OR YOUR WORST ENEMY GUD LUCK
Please complain to your state attorney general and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC.gov). Your complaint will be entered into Consumer Sentinel, a shared database by law enforcement agencies. Be as specific as possible in your complaint.
First, Mann wanted to gauge borrowers’ expectations – how long they thought it would take them to pay back a payday loan. So he created a survey that was given out to borrowers in a few dozen payday loan shops across five states.
DEYOUNG: That’s a very standard disclaimer. The Federal Reserve System is a unique alternative to regulators across the world. They see the value in having their researchers exercise science and academic freedom because they know that inquiry is a good thing.
Do not consider paying. You could consider blocking the number. But ask for a prepaid debit card is a sign of a scammer. Please read this post about that: The One Way You Should Never Pay Debt Collector
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Ask them to send you a notification of the debt. They are required to do that within three business days of calling you. If they are not, they are definitely not up and up. Also, debt collectors can not make false statements. Telling you that you will go to jail for check fraud will probably fall under that category. (You can not go to jail just because you can not pay a debt) and you’re right – not paying back a payday loan is not check fraud.)
You are correct that you are required to give you the proof of the debt. Do you have a physical address for them? If so, you can write a letter and send it registered mail asking for written proof of the debt. If you are being taken to court, you will receive a “summary and complaint” by postal mail or delivered in person. It is a formal court document, not an email.
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the phone, because I had not received any correspondence from the company. He told me it was not their responsibility to chase me down to collect a debt, that it was my responsibility to take care of it myself. As their lawyer, I could pay him and it would all go away. I said no, and he hung up on me, laughing, quite rudely, stating, “Have fun rotting in prison.”
I received a call yesterday from a law office stating that they were going to have me arrested for fraud and theft for not paying a payday loan. They said that it had been over 21 days since I made a payment and that if I wanted to go out of court that all I needed to do was put $ 385 on a green dot moneypak card by today. I have taken out two payday loans just recently and just had my first payment due on Friday which I paid. The number that they are calling from is 401-648-7325 by Lisa Green. She also said that the money had been deposited in my account and when they tried to pay out they were not able to. They also did not give me information on when the deposit took place and what company the payday loan was through. This sounds like a lot of the other posts that I have read but I do not want to take the chance of being arrested … what do I do ??
Which suggests there is a small but substantial group of people who are so financially desperate and
Tell me that I owe a paydate loan and that I need to call her and make arrangements. She is calling me on my job and on a new cell number that I have. Now she is calling my family and threatening them That they are going to arrest me. Please help. 800-290-1065. SHe calls three times a day or more. Help.
The payday industry, and some political allies, argue that the CFPB is trying to deny credit to people who really need it. Now, it’s not surprising you that the payday industry does not want this kind of government regulation. Nor should it surprise you that a government agency called the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is trying to regulate an industry like the payday industry.
Do not hide from bad news. Do not ignore a charge or summary notice from court or the lender, or any court proceedings against you. If you ignore a case, you may lose the opportunity to fight a wage or bank garnishment.
couple months ago stating that I had taken out a loan in Aug of 2012. They said they had papers for me and that I had to pay right away to avoid legal action. They gave me the bank account number and checking account number that the money was deposited in, had my social security number and knew where
For a while now, we’ve been getting complaints from Credit.com readers about fake payday loan debt collectors. I’m not surprised when I read the announcement this week by Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan warns Illinois residents to “be on the alert for scam artists posing as collectors of payday loan debt. The scammers call consumers and threaten them with legal action unless the victims authorize payments from their bank accounts. “Her office has received many complaints.
DeYOUNG: Well, in a short sentence that’s very scientific I would start by saying, “Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.” The question comes down to how we identify the water here and how do we identify the baby here. One way is to collect a lot of information, as the CFPB suggests, about the creditworthiness of the borrower. But that brings up production cost of payday loans and will probably put the industry out of business. But I think we can all agree that once someone pays a fee in an aggregate amount equal to the amount that was originally borrowed, that’s pretty clear that there’s a problem there.
It’s been gettng calls from a guy who calls hisself jack but is clear from overseas because I can barely understand anything he says. he has gone so far as to call my job ann tell my boss that the company i work for is goin to be held liable for this debt oh yea this guy is supposedly with a law firm. my boss told them last week if they called back i would be terminaed they would not get any money from me .this did not phase him so tuesday he called back they told him the samething so he called my cell phone wantedin me to verify my I did not have a lot of cursed him out with a few racial friends hang up.so then I got a call from another guy clearly not american tellin he was the sheriff of my county they were coming to my work I have been told to serve on my request I gave him one 4 states away so he says do not u speak to? lmbo i said who said the sherriff of my county i just had to ask what county that would be and i was givin some word ive never heard. so after a day of theatrical injury to the loss of my job and 3 felony charges for supposedly getting money from payday usa i am waiting for my sheriff to return my call so i can tell him of this thing impersonate an officer. i work hard for my money and noone is going to harass me like this i’m not stupid so my advice to the scammers scam you own country come here tryin to steal from us hard workin honest folks. and did i mention this trash called my moms and told my 12yr old girl to suck her d ** k !!!! these ppl need to be stopped b4 they meet the end of my shotgun !!
WERTH: I was, and what he told me was that even though Hilary
One big advice PEOPLE !! Try to avoid giving out your personal information. Avoid any suspicious telemarketing calls (they get your info) or sign any document at your doorstep … This decade is FULL of scammers … so DO NOT get cheated!
In a vicious cycle, the higher the permitted fees, the more stores, the lesser customers each store serves, so the higher the fees need to be. Competition, in other words, does reduce profits to lenders, as expected – but it seems to carry no benefit to consumers, at least as measured by the rates they are charged. (The old loan sharks may have been able to charge lower rates because of lower overhead, although it’s impossible to know.) Mayer thinks the explanation may have more to do with the differences in the customer base: Because alternative alternatives were sparse back then, these lenders served a more diverse and overall more creditworthy set of borrowers, so default rates were likely lower.)
No need to panic. Debt collectors do not pick people up at home or work because they can not pay their bills. Ask them to send you a written notice of the debt that is required under federal law. (By mail, not email.) If they say they can not, then you’re dealing with a scammer. If so, then read my article 7 Ways to Stop Overseas Debt Collection Scam Calls and turn the tables on them!
I’ve been receiving phone calls from a person who claims to be an investigator and tells me there are charges pending against me for a payday loan from 2009. He gave me the name of a collection agency (Global) that I called and they told me the same thing I really took out a payday loan in 2009 from this “money and more” online company. The loan was repaid and I even faxed copies of the bank statements showing this back in 2009. They say the copies of these statements are not in my file. And this “INVESTIGATOR” well his phone does not accept incoming calls, and he wants me to give him my address to send me sealed documents! I did not give any of my information as I see it, if he found out my cell phone number, then he can find out my address. This man was very rude, very aggressive and very threatening. He continues to call my phone 4 & 5 times a day. I do not know how to get rid of these people. This man, I do not know his name or who he wors for, he gave me no information, only that there were charges against me and my state “bad check writing laws” would be against me as well, pending criminal charges … ..I which often have internet access … but i get my e-mail on my phone, so if anyone would like to e-mail me with helpful information it would be much appreciated. Thank You
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Nona – There are a few options for trying to stop them but it’s not easy when you’re dealing with a scam. If they were legitimate collectors, and traceable – where they could be held accountable under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, consumers would recourse to sue them. However, with scams, it’s a little more difficult … but there are some options that may help – you can file a complaint with your local law enforcement, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and your state attorney general.
I received a call from a “courier service” in my county. The number was restricted. He said he had legal papers to deliver to me and unless I called 877-454-4291, they wold be delivered today between 2 & 4. I must be available at my home or place of employment. How will they know where to go? LOL !!! I called the number but did not talk to anyone. That phone was answered ADR Arbitration. Has anyone ever heard of them?
He said he worked for Morgan Lewis on behalf of Money & More. He had all my personal information, bank information, ssn, dob. He told me I had committed internet fraud by taking out a loan and not paying it back. I did not remember to take out a loan online & told him I did not remember to take out a loan on the internet. He then told me that he had email transactions and verification from my bank that the ACH withdrawal was declined twice so I had committed internet fraud and was going to jail. He then hung up on me.
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In your case it sounds so much like the rest of the scams others have shared here on this post so it’s wise to keep on guard. The next time they call, try to get as much contact information about the company – including address, contact phone, name, etc. – then ask them to please provide written documentation in the mail to validate the debt. As we have stated in previous posts, this is a standard procedure when dealing with any debt collector and by law, the collector must comply with this request. If they refuse, they are breaking the law under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and have no right to continue to try to collect. In fact, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, if a collector contacts you by phone they have 5 days in which to send you formal written notice that you owe the debt. The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and your right to dispute the debt, in writing, within 30 days of receipt of the notice.
You are not guilty of the lawsuit related to return return items if you default on this transaction. Consequently, we may not use or threaten to use criminal proceedings (e.g., criminal return item laws) to collect a defaulted transaction.
The call was about a cash advance loan that I received over the computer in 2007. They said I owe $ 1500 and I had to give them at least $ 25 before I got off the phone with them or I would be arrested and have to spend $ 5000 to get out of jail, have to pay short money and get put on probation.
The explanation for this is not simple, and a variety of economic jargon floats around the issue. But it’s all started with this: The typical payday-consumer loan is too desperate, too unsophisticated, or too exhausted from being treated with disrespect by traditional lenders to engage in shopping. So demand is what economists call price tax. As Clarence Hodson, who published a book in 1919 about the business of small loans, put it, “It is not possible for bargain to benefit with cupidity.” In its last financial year, Advance America, one of the country’s largest payday lenders, wrote, “We believe that the main competitive factor is customer service, rental, convenience, speed, and confidentiality.” You will notice it did not mention the price.
I got a call from some lady her name was emily clark stating that she was an investigator and that i owed ab payday loan from back on 2010 she was rude and treated me to report to my county so I can be arrested for check fraud to the payday finance intrance i fraked out because the time I was getting those kind of loans so I agreed to pay them when I asked about my options to pay they said that i owed them a total of 950 usd but it will settle for 600 or 3 payments of 300 when I took my option that said I had an hour to pay them to a cvs or waltmart and get a money graham and send it to the Company It really sounded fishy so I gave them excuses to not be I can not tell you what they’re doing.
serve me papers. She lives in Chicago and I live in southern Illinois. I called to see what was going on just to find out it’s a bill I’ve already paid off. The person on the phone told me that my account was just sold to them and they hired a locator to find me to serve me papers. They did not want to serve me at work. I told her it was paid off in July and she said I had to get a “Pay in Full” letter from the collector and they would drop it. I called Asset Management and they are sending me a letter. Asset gave me the corporate number for The Cash Store, I called and was told it was fraud and to stop all contact with this company. I’m still going to send in my “pay in full” letter but if I get anything from BOR again I’m going to go after them for violations of the law. This is ridiculous. I keep good records of all my payments and debts (I’ve had many over the years), I know a lot of people do not. They would have just paid them.
It can be frustrating and embarrassing when debt collectors call relatives, and, as you suspect, some debt collectors use tactics that are not legal. But, as a consumer, you are not powerless. Here are three Credit.com articles you may find useful, and thanks for alerting others to the kind of treatment you have received.
Do you think they are calling from overseas? If they are a legitimate agency then you can report and
DeYoung also argues that most payday borrowers know exactly what they’re getting into when they sign up; that they’re not unwitting and desperate people who are being preyed on. He points to a key piece of research by Ronald Mann; That’s another co-author on the New York Fed blog post.
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I took a loan from Money and More in July 2008 and paid the loan back in Aug of 2008 with an electronic with drawl; by Money and More. I had the bank send me my bank records showing both of these trans shares however I was told that unless I had a letter from Money and More that this had been paid my bank records are useless. I have had many payday loans over the years and have never received a full payment from any of them but have always been able to contact them online to check my history can not do this with money and more and the only phone number I can find is not inserving 951-922-6286 who is the scammer ?????. The calls do not come every day they are about 1 or 2 weeks apart. guess I’ll just have to wait and see if they are doing papers on me they know a lot of my personal information as told them I would not send them my bank statements she then recited my bank account number from the account I had at that time has since changed accounts. I have asked for things in writing and have to recieve anything.
Does a researcher who’s out to make a splash with some sexy finding necessarily work with more bias than a researcher who’s working out of pure intellectual curiosity? I do not think that’s necessarily so. Like life itself, academic research is a case-by-case scenario.
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