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I just had my first run with one of these “companies.” I immediately knew that it was gibberish but decided to play along. They were immediately taken by the fact I have a British accent but continue their charade. I initially spoke with a woman and the number was 0000. Typically I do not pick up these strange numbers as I assume it’s some sort of scam but I had a itch. She picked up said something and immediately handed the phone over to another counterpart. He of course made claims to a loan I took out in 2008, I believe. Along with fraud check and two other false claims. I immediately said that I was only 16 than though he continued the pressure. Statements of we sent you multiple EMAILS, you’ll receive a summon, etc. After he continued to talk about me I said in a very naive way “He said in his absurdly thick accent” of course. “I than yelled” you such a person I I was a student of law and the likeliness of convincing me of any truth was impossible. “He continued to press me and I slyly said a remark in Spanish than hung up. The fact that I was 16 in said year and British alone should have made him end the call, very foolish tactic. They called me BACK RIGHT AFTER AS WELL. I can also complain of the heavy background noise, completely spineless people praying on Americans suffering through enough of a crisis as is. If I receive another call I will take some of these actions to try and help in ceasing this callous behavior.
A “Russell Florence” left me threatening voice mail warning me that I would be getting useful paperwork next week from two complaints filed against my SS # (the SS # was not verified on the message)
A few months back, my best friend got a call from someone re: I said I was going to jail if I did not pay something by the end of the day. I had used her as a reference to a payday advance through Check N Go so that’s probably how they got her name and number. She called me hysterical, I freaked out and of course, called them. The guy was very rude and told me I would go to jail if it was not paid that day by 4 and told me I’d be arrested for check fraud. I explained what happened, did not give any info or offer payment, but was so upset. I completely freaked out and thought “oh my gosh, who will take care of my kids if I go to jail?” I called my attorney and he told me to ignore it, and that no, I could not get arrested. I was relieved !!! I do not have to pay for that payday above, I believe it was from a year or two ago. I lost my job after, fell on hard times and I still pick up the pieces of money and have not been able to pay it. Now that I’ve read this, I’m pretty sure these callers are scammers. Beware people! Oh yes, and of course, when I listen to the envelope info of the voicemails, they are blocked and it says “an outside caller”. I wish there was something I could do to get these clowns in trouble, because if I had made any payment and found out it was not paying my debt, I would be devastated.
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said that if I agree to make three payments to settle the debt they would not take me to court. I agreed and made the first two payment, now I have a single payment and I do not have the money until next time I get paid which is a week from the due date. I tried to call the company that is taking the money out of my account to see if they would work with me and take the money out when i have it but i have to leave a message due to “high call volume” but never recieved a call back. My question is they can still take me to court and what’s the hood of them doing this?
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In your case it sounds so much like the rest of the scams others have shared here on this post so it’s wise to keep on guard. The next time they call, try to get as much contact information about the company – including address, contact phone, name, etc. – then ask them to please provide written documentation in the mail to validate the debt. As we have stated in previous posts, this is a standard procedure when dealing with any debt collector and by law, the collector must comply with this request. If they refuse, they are breaking the law under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and have no right to continue to try to collect. In fact, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, if a collector contacts you by phone they have 5 days in which to send you formal written notice that you owe the debt. The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and your right to dispute the debt, in writing, within 30 days of receipt of the notice.
bb – Unfortunately, the likelihood of getting your money back after a scam is next to nil, especially with them being prepaid cards. Whatever you do, do not send them any more money and as Gerri said in a previous way, “Consumers should never send a prepaid card to pay a debt collector. Not only is this a method of payment for the scammers who take the money and run, you will have no record of the payment if it was a legitimate debt. ”
By the way, you can not be arrested just because you can not afford to pay a debt. (Warning, however, there are cases where consumers are jailed in connection with debts because they failed to appear in court after a summary was issued.)
We are working on some of our payday loans clients and they are getting these same calls. One of the customers were scared in paying them until I looked it up. They said they were from payday loan recovery group. Saying she owed a loan from 2008 for 1,200 and she could pay it in full for $ 399. She was scared in paying but I told her to cancel her creid card before it went through. They send her an invoice on the decline. The processing company is http:
Most of these scammers are hard to track, and if they are in other countries it makes it even more difficult. However, you may want to try filing a police report, and then file a complaint with the CFPB at consumerfinance.gov.
If you did not get the right date and the date they did give I was out of the country so got there called one uncle who is a cop in the city number came from he busted 3 hindi’s man were they surprised. no time doing good in the desert and face being deported on the end of jail time, yes bubba loves her new roomies too
thank you Geri this makes my mind at ease even though deep down inside i thought i was right .. i know i owe them the money .. thank you so much i wish other ppl would research this so they do not get scamed. .
Ok update. Yesterday I received from the bank my statement for the year of the alleged payday loans and it only confirmed what I knew to be true, no transactions of any kind either at Payday loan deposit or any attempt to collect on it.
“If these people are taking me to my local court should they not have this info?” By law, they have no right to collect. This is a standard procedure when dealing with any debt collector and under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, the collector must comply with this request. In fact, under the law, if a collector contacts you by phone they have 5 days in which to send you formal written notice that you owe the debt. The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and your right to dispute the debt, in writing, within 30 days of receipt of the notice.
I received a message from the other day from PDLR Group named her Jan Faith to call back at 877-269-0088. I called the next day to find out what this was for. I spoke to Jan who told me I had a payday loan that was back to 2008 or before, but did not have an exact date. The next thing she was telling me that if I did not settle with them TODAY and make a payment with a debit card or a prepaid card for $ 700, I was looking at at least $ 3500 with lawyers costs and court costs but that they will not go to short. She said they would go straight to my HR department to start garnishing my salary. Unfortunately I have applied for payday loan before but have paid back the one I did. I even find a website for Payday Today which is the company I supposedly did the loan with. I asked for written proof of the debt, and all of a sudden was rushed from the phone telling me that I could expect to be called down to HR about this. She said the wage assignment I signed was my forfeit from court, but she wanted to be the best of luck and she hung up. My HR needs a short time
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I am very concerned you are dealing with a scammer – possibly in both instances. Please read this article about how process servers work and proceed with extreme caution. (And verify the one you are making payments to is legitimate!)
If these are legitimate collectors then they will stop calling at work once they are instructed by you to do so. That’s federal law
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then the guy wanted to know why i took the advance out in the first place and why i have not paid on it. he said I was going to get charged with check fraud from across state lines since the company is out of state and when they tried to retrieve the money from my account the money was not there.
I received a phone call today from an “investigator” stating that there is an investigation on me that I have to give a verbal statement. I called the woman back and she gave me this talk about it’s because of a unpaid payday loan from like 2007. I told her it was not on my credit report and asked why. She replied because “the US federal government is holding your ssn and that it would not show up anyway because it was an open case” (the open case thing is false I know, just checked my credit report again, there’s open things on there ….)
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I received a call back in July 2012. He said he was with the cook county district attorney office. That charge was pending from 2008 on cash advance. I told him this was paid for but did not have access to that bank information. He gave me the number of the attorney processing the charge. It was ACS. They would not give me any information about the old claim. Only that they have the right to process check fraud charges. I got pressured in setting up a payment arrangement. I paid the first installment and then cancel my credit card for the second. When I started reading all these claims. Now they continue to call and harass about filing charges. This time the guy when he called did not say he was with cook county and admitted he an investigator. He will not give you a number to call him back. What can I do? How do I get them to stop?
I’ve received calls like this before, where they call me and my work. But, today I got a call from a private investigator named John McCaffrey from 855-656-5010. The message stated that there were charges of fraud being placed against me and my attorney would have to speak about case number # 14831-TX69. He said I was to appear at my local county courthouse to take care of the mater. What was disturbing is that he also called my mother’s phone number and my sister-in-law phone number, leaving the same message from me. The message at their numbers stated that I was to appear in court at their local courthouse. How are I supposed to appear at three different courts for the same case ???? This is how to fishy !!
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Just to be clear, these are not collectors trying to collect legitimate debts. Most of the complaints on our forums, and to the AG AG include consumers who have never taken a payday loan, or who may have initiated one but never actually secured the loan. In some cases, the “collector” has detailed information about the victim – such as name, address and social security number – which makes the debt appear to be real.
I got a call from a guy claiming he was the guy that was sent to serve me for check fraud for a check I wrote a check on December 25, 2007. Honestly who would write a payday one loan on Christmas day. This made me suspect that something is funny. He called me from an unknown number. The guy gave me a 1-877-540 number and a case number which was only a few numbers. I called the number the guy acted like him
The debt collector must send you a written verification of the debt, and is not allowed under federal law to discuss your debt with others. This leads me to believe it is not legitimate. You might want to think about telling her that you will be recording her calls to turn them over to law enforcement, and report these calls to Fraud.org.
I’m really scared. We got this phone call from this legal processing center accusing us the 2 charges with the state and both of them are felonies according to anyone who said on the phone. That we will be thrown to jail for 85 months if we do not take care of the money … It was for a check 570 and now all the fees added up to 970 and how our case was turned to the state that is why they they call us … that they can issue a warrant for arrest if we do not care of the money …
Saying you’re going to be arrested for fraud because you have not paid your payday loan is a bogus threat. The fact that they have all this information about you does not mean it is a legitimate collection attempt. And the fact that you want to pay with a moneypack is a big red flag. I would suggest you turn the tables on them and report them to the Federal Trade Commission and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (consumerfinance.gov). Next time they call start the conversation by telling them you are going to record the call to deliver to law enforcement – and do so!
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Im glad you posted this, i just lost $ 150 to this [redacted]. So today I had a similar call about another payday loan i supposedly had taken out, but didnt. I will be blocking my debit card now, thank you for posting.
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I worked. I got all the information from the lady (who at the point was very nice and helpful). I then contacted my bank and requested bank statements for August and had no deposit from any other than my employer in my account. My bank told me it was a scam and not to worry about it. A couple of days later they called back for the money to avoid legal action. I told them I had bank statements
If you do not repay your loan, the payday lender or a debt collector can generally sue you to collect. If they win, or if you do not dispute the lawsuit or claim, the court will enter a order or judgment against you. The order or judgment will state the amount of money you owe. The lender or collector can then get a garnishment order against you.
I have been receiving calls from what sounds like the same group of folks. Starting last week I had a message from “Justin Jones” stating that I had to contact him immediately or have my attorney contact him that I would be sorry. If he did not hear from me that I would face some serious legal actions. He also said that they would come to my workplace or home and I will be the only responsible person for further legal consequences and that I should call him bsck as soon as possible before it too late. Thank you and have a blessed day, goodbye. It was very broken Indian dialect. I returned the call and spoke to Derek Anderson. Apparently Justin Jones is one of his “officers.” I was told that They would be willing to settle for $ 998 in place of the $ 1795.00 they said I owed them through Advance Payday Loan. I have never taken a payday loan. I had to give him a debit card or send a payment via Western Union right away or they would have the sheriff come to me on the following three charges. 1 breach of federal banking laws 2 Collateral check fraud, and 3 Theft by deception. I asked for a physical address so that I could send the funds via overnight delivery or some other traceable method. He did not want to give me a physical address but after much questioning from me he gave me an address of 633 Marimbo Street New York, NY 10023 But that they would not accept mail payments, only Western Union (he forgot about the debit and credit card at this point)
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