Cream – do not respond or engage any further. A legitimate collector would not send all of this through email. We will also encourage you to file a formal complaint – of which you have several options – and you may even wish to forward the email in question to help investigate the fraud
I just had this happen and
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Just to be clear, these are not collectors trying to collect legitimate debts. Most of the complaints on our forums, and to the AG AG include consumers who have never taken a payday loan, or who may have initiated one but never actually secured the loan. In some cases, the “collector” has detailed information about the victim – such as name, address and social security number – which makes the debt appear to be real.
If they call back, follow the instructions outlined in this article or the resource provided above. If the collector will not comply with your requests, then it may be a scam. It’s hard to say until you talk to them to see if the debt is legitimate. Whatever you do, do not let them intimidate you in paying without validating the debt. As a result of the comment on this thread, they use scare tactics and prey on consumers not knowing their rights and the laws when it comes to debt collections.
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They called my 87-year-old mother and she asked them how they got her phone number, and a woman said that I had put her down as a contact. However, her new phone number is barely a year old and is not the one given at the time of the payday loan.
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This is a common tactic that is used to scare you into pay without questioning the validity of the debt. There are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
At no point during this aggressive voice mail did he identify his company or any affiliation to another company
While it may not be possible to stop these scams (they are typically coming from overseas and may be out of reach of US law enforcement), US lawmakers have to try to stop them at the source. They need to crack down on the websites where consumers are entering their personal information that is then compromised.
actually be profitable, deliver the product. Now that’s, that’s not the only plank in the CFPB’s platform. They advocate limiting rollovers and cooling-off periods and the research does not indicate that in states where rollovers are limited, payday lenders have got around them by paying the loan off by refinancing. Just start a separate loan with a separate loan number, evading the regulation. Of course that’s a rule that was poorly written, if the payday lenders can evade it that easily.
Tami – what’s wrong with me is talking about “bad checks” – not about the fact that you have a debt. This makes me think they’re going to tell you that you’re going to be arrested for checking fraud if you do not pay. Again, ask them to send you a written notice of the debt required by the federal law – the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
Sorry to hear a scammer made your day so difficult, but we are relieved to do not send a moneygram. Those, along with prepaid cards, are popular ways for scammers to take advantage of scared consumers. But good for you for doing the research and figuring out it was a scam.
“I do not think they’ll be back, because I told them that it’s federal law to send me something written in the mail before trying to collect the debt from me” – Surprisingly, once they know that you know the laws (and better than they do), they typically do back and give up. Thank you for sharing your story, it shows that knowing and understanding your rights can help protect you from being a victim.
Please do not panic. You can not be arrested because you can not pay this debt. If they call again, you can not reply until they send something in writing on their letterhead by mail (not email!). That’s your right under federal law. (A warrant for check fraud is a sign you are dealing with a scammer. That’s not check fraud
Ask them to send you a notification of the debt. They are required to do that within three business days of calling you. If they are not, they are definitely not up and up. Also, debt collectors can not make false statements. Telling you that you will go to jail for check fraud will probably fall under that category. (You can not go to jail just because you can not pay a debt) and you’re right – not paying back a payday loan is not check fraud.)
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It sounds like if the caller is breaking the law; a collection agency can not send you to jail. Read 5 Things to Debt Collector Should Never Say “and 11 Ways to Debt Collector May Be Breaking the Law for more information and advice on how to handle calls.
Reg – This is a common tactic that is used to scare you into pay without questioning the validity of the debt. There are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
DEYOUNG: This is why price caps are a bad idea. Because if the solution was implemented as I suggest and, in fact, payday lenders lost some of their most profitable customers – because now we’re not getting that fee the 6th and 7th time from them – then the price would have to go up. And we would not let the market determine whether or not at that high price we still have the need to use the product.
In November I went throught the same thing. A call on a cell phone form “Bill Paxton” A Mid-Eastern sounding man told me that a lawsuit had been filed in my nma and SS number over an on-line payday loan that I did not pay back. When I asked some probing questions like what the state and county tha law had been filed in what was the docket number. And when I asked for a written verification of the debt he became very upset and put me on the phone with his “supervisor” he informed me that an investigator would be sent to my home and place of work and that I would be arrested and could end up with 6 years in prison I told him to go fuck a PIG. He then said I was in a language I could not understand then hung up on me.
DEYOUNG: I had written that paper, and had I know 100 percent of the facts about where the data came from and who paid for it – yes, I would have disclosed that. I do not think it’s one way or the other in terms of what the research found and what the paper says.
I could not believe how fast everything was processed! I could not believe that I had gotten approved as most lenders do not approve me for some unknown reason. I was so happy and thankful that it came through quickly. Now I’m able to pay for my bond! Thank you!
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