with a case # So I immediately called back and a lady answered as “United” and asked for my case #. I gave it to her and she said I owe for a PDL from Sept 2011 with ACE. I do not remember having a loan with them. I have had PDLs before and thought I’ve forgot about it. I Todd them I’m on maternity leave and have no income. Then she transferred me to her supervisor because she was monitoring the call and wanted to try and work something out with me. He asked if Ihad people I can borrow the money from because if it does not get paid I will go to court and be charged with fraud check. Scared the crap out of me! So he said I can pay $ 150 by Jan 25th and the rest by Feb 22. I asked why I never got anything in the mail. He asked if the address he had was right, it was an address that I moved out of in June 2011. So he said that’s why. He said I had to get the payment plan with a debit card. I was stupid and gave it to him. The last few days I’ve been thinking about it because I just did not remember this loan. Then I remembered that in AZ they have no real payday loans, they were outlawed in 2010. Now they give you a loan off your car registration or title. So if I defaulted then they would have come and taken my car. Also, IF you give them a check it has to be a voided check. So how can I have a bad check if they can not cash it being that it was voided? So … .does it sounds like my situation is also a scam? If so I probably need to cancel my card.
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Shani – You should NOT pay a debt collector without first verifying the debt. Now that they know you will pay, they will probably intensify their efforts. I recommend you file complaints with your state attorney general office and the Federal Trade Comission. You may also have to call screening through your phone company if they will not stop calling you.
These payday loan collectors are using a new scared tactic now. They are saying I’m filing fraud charges with your county and you will be summoned to court for fraud. I know you can not threaten a person over the phone but these are the calls I’ve got back to back
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Do not panic. You have the right under the federal law to request the verification of the debt and the debt collector must provide it. They also must provide you with their contact information if you request it. So next time they call, ask for their mailing address. If they do not give it to you then they are either a. a scam or b. a rogue collector who is breaking the law.
DURBAN, South Africa – Ronald Louw was a human-lawyer lawyer and professor at the University of KwaZulu-Natal, the South African province, which is one of the most affected areas of the world, so he must have known about the dangers of the virus. In April 2005, he was taking care of his mother, who had been diagnosed with cancer, when he realized he had a cough that would not go away. He went to a doctor who treated him with antibiotics.
Defaulting on a loan is not a “felony violation” and what they are saying and doing is illegal under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. The next time you talk with them, ask them to send you a confirmation of the debt-which they are required to do by law. If they refuse, you can tell them that they are breaking the law and you will pursue legal action if they continue to call and harass you.
I am very concerned you are dealing with a scammer – possibly in both instances. Please read this article about how process servers work and proceed with extreme caution. (And verify the one you are making payments to is legitimate!)
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better thanks for educating me on this scam.
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Here’s how our cash advance loans work: You fill out our quick online application. On approval, we will tell you the amount you qualify for. You can then use the cash to pay off unxpected expenses or bills. When your cash advance is due, usually on your next payday, you pay us back the borrowed amount plus a fee. That’s all there is to it.
IT WAS A SCAM !!!!
It’s a good idea to call first and confirm what you will need. Our friendly associates will be happy to help!
I’ve never heard of Money More or Money, but received a letter (very unprofessional actually signed in ink) by some small time debt collector claiming I pay or settlement (Payback & Associates, Henderson. places appear to be in NV).
couple months ago stating that I had taken out a loan in Aug of 2012. They said they had papers for me and that I had to pay right away to avoid legal action. They gave me the bank account number and checking account number that the money was deposited in, had my social security number and knew where
STP management group is i was harassed by, I had to change my cell #, but they were still harassing me at work. I filed a report with the consumer financial protection office and they said they would stop & desist contacting me. They claim they have a good standing with the BBB, but of course when I look them up with such company exists. These scammers are bold and taking advantage of people with scare tactics.
MANN: If your first is that none of the people using this product would do it if they really understood what was going on – well, that just does not seem to
The Ultimate Guide to Debt Collectors. And do not be so tough on yourself. The scammers would not keep at it if they were not successful scaring people in paying money they did not have. We’ll bet you will not be a victim again.
Ask the collector for the name and address of the agency for which he or she works. Then ask him to send you written information about the debt. Any legitimate debt collection agency will do this because it is required under the federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
My husband and I filed bankruptcy due to unforeseen circumstances and we had an outstanding payday loan. My attorney explained to us that a payday loan is treated as an unsecured debt and would file the papers and there was no need to worry about this because it would be included in the bankruptcy as unsecured. Needless to say I got a very dangerous call from a company called US Capital Management (855) 596-0411. They said they represented MYMONEYCHEST.com and they would see us in court for a balance. I asked the woman to contact my attorney and they said they could not because they are just the middle man in this. I told her if there is a balance and we are currently in a bankruptcy, there should be no reason they could not reach out to our attorney. I called my attorney and he said to have them call him. They will not! They told me that they were going to serve me papers at my job. Is this possible? Can they do that? I can not get them to give me any paperwork about this balance owed.
I did not give her my new address. I know the debt is not mine and sound bogus. As my bank representative pointed out it, if the debt was real I would have noticed either the money being withdrawn or would have seen a bunch overdrawn transactions. The Account was active until last week when I closed it. So he said the only way they do not get paid is if you withdraw all your money or you close the account the loan is linked to. So that’s what’s setting off some red flags that this may be scam.
RONALD MANN: I have a general idea that people who are really tight for money know more where their next dollar is coming from and going than the people that are not particularly tight for money. So, I generally think that the people who borrow from payday lenders have a better idea of how their finances are going to go for the next two or three months because it’s really a crucial item for them that they worry about every day. So that’s what I set out to test.
DUBNER: Well, Christopher, that defense sounds, at least to me, like pretty weak sauce. I mean, the university writing center does not have as much vested interest in the outcome of my writing as an industry group does for an academic paper about that industry, right?
On the other hand, this leaves about 40 percent of borrowers who were not good at predicting when they would pay the loan off. And Mann found a correlation between bad predictions and past payday loans.
This is a common tactic that is used to scare you into pay without questioning the validity of the debt. There are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
First, Mann wanted to gauge borrowers’ expectations – how long they thought it would take them to pay back a payday loan. So he created a survey that was given out to borrowers in a few dozen payday loan shops across five states.