Advance America is sponsored by CFSA Best Practices and state laws concerning rescission, which allows you to rescind the transaction at no cost within a certain time period by returning the full amount of the advance. Contact your local Advance America store for state specific rescission policies.
DUBNER: Hey Christopher. So, as I understand it, much of what you’ve learned about CCRF’s involvement in the payday research comes from a watchdog group called the Campaign for Accountability, or CFA? So, first off, tell us a bit more about them, and what their incentives may be.
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Anyone who tells you you must pay in an hour or that you will be arrested is a scammer. A collector can not have you arrested, and certainly can not summon law enforcement to arrest you because you did not meet their deadlines. A legitimate collector would send you a written validation of the debt. Please do not pay. You can read more signs of scammer here: 9 Signs You Are Talking to Debt Collection Scammer
We had a scam call today, they called about a supposed payday loan from 2008. They called me, my husband, my daughter and my daughter in law on our cell phones. We did not even know my girlfriend in 2008, at all. They have everyone’s social and home address, including my son’s new home address. Said my husband owes them $ 2500 and that she would get papers served at her home if we did not pay. I asked them what they would have been serving the papers, she said, hold on let me look, then she changed the subject and never answered. 1-855-201-8789 was the number they gave to call back but they first call you from a private number. Once I figured out I was dealing with scam, I started to call them back informing them that I had filed reports, recorded calls from them, I read them some scam warnings about themselves off the internet, … this is how I got rid of the last scammers, I just kept calling them reminding them of how I knew they were scam and reading them things off the internet about themselves and reading them the current rules they were breaking, etc … I did not cuss or get ugly, I was just matter of fact I’m curious though of how they got my son and daughter in law and phone numbers.
Even though there may not be a lot you can do about the call, it may be worthwhile to file a complaint with your state attorney general and with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
I was called yesterday and the call said that my payday loan was in default. If I did not pay the amount they would send me to court. Can i go to jail !? They kept using the term “financial fraud” which freaked me out! I did not pay the amount yesterday so they said I would get served today. What’s going to happen? Can I get I jail for this !?
has been slammed with an unexpected bill and no cash on hand to cover it. If you ignore the expense, things may only get worse. But your next paycheck is still a long way away.
Hey I’ve been getting calls from a bryan agent claiming to be from The Fraudulent Investigation Department. Number is 3474180337. He had a thick accent. He has threatened to come arrest me at my work place. Has anyone else heard of this company. Are they scanners? Also second company I missed the name but number number is 6303320770. This guy name was adam woods. He has been threatening me all day I have to go to western union and transfer money to them. I believe this is a scam. He says I will be arrested if I do not. Any suggestions
Some guy named [redacted] keeps emailing me that i need to pay $ 1200 by friday or i will go to jail. The money for a debit collector but he will not tell which company it is. And he wants the money by friday but he only emails me. He will call me the company that pay day loans from
Beware folks. The first letter I got, they wanted 1300. and used a old address from 2003 and the supposed date of the debt was 2007 !! I did not even live there in 2007! The second letter I got was for 984.00 and they would call the DA if I did not pay up.
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I got this call at my job telling me to pay this payday loan. I took out. I never did. I consulted with my attorney and he said to her a scam because they have to send you something in mail. I never got anything. No court sum or anything. Beaver here is the phone number: (213) 260-9435
any other information. The payday borrower then writes a check – and this is the key part of the technology – the payday borrower then writes a check for the amount of the loan and postdates it by two weeks. And this becomes the collateral for the loan. So payday will not pay the loan in two weeks, the payday lender then deposits the check.
Whatever you want to call it – wage deflation, structural unemployment, the absence of good-paying jobs – is not that a bigger problem? And, if so, what’s to be done about that? Next time on Freakonomics Radio, we will continue this conversation by looking at a strange, controversial proposal to make sure everyone’s got enough money to get by.
I got a call today from some lady named ms jones nichole
FULMER: It would take the $ 15 and it would make that fee $ 1.38 per $ 100 borrowed. That’s less than 7.5 cents per day. The New York Times can not sell a newspaper for 7.5 cents a day. And somehow we are expected to be unsecured, relative, $ 100 loans for a two-week period for 7.5 cents per day. It just does not make economical sense.
going to be sent to court for “fraud” and continued to talk and talk and talk. But as I listened to her, I caught her in many lies. And on top of that she did not sound professional at all and kept repeating my name over and over trying to break me down. Then I asked to talk to the supervisor and she said, “I’m so scam” and I said, “I heard her whispering to someone else and then she came back on the phone and I told you that they are not a scam and I replied with “I can talk to your supervisor” and then she put me on “Hold” then I heard the phone being held up to a speaker so I could hear “elevator” music while I was being “transferred” to the supervisor. She finally transferred me to this guy saying that I could pay her with a gift card instead. I just said “I’ll think about if I want to pay you scam artists or not” then I hung up. Since then, I’ve gotten nothing.
Has anyone got a call from statewide adr they keep calling my work and my dad house say they want to give me papers. Is this company for real or not i do not find anything on them. And i dont want to lose my job. Please help
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I received an email saying there is a judgment against me for a payday loan from cash it had my social sec number and all these charges. I never took out a payday loan with these people I was suspended to call them yesterday but I did not check my e-mail until the next day. I know this is a scam because i google cash usa and find that some people have recieved the same e-mail. What can I do to prevent them from sending the same e-mail. I’m going to file a report
Nona – There are a few options for trying to stop them but it’s not easy when you’re dealing with a scam. If they were legitimate collectors, and traceable – where they could be held accountable under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, consumers would recourse to sue them. However, with scams, it’s a little more difficult … but there are some options that may help – you can file a complaint with your local law enforcement, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and your state attorney general.
Thank you, I’m not sure the investigator called the house number and when I called the agency that is statewide mediation they said I should not see why a sheriff would come to my house over a debt owed
I am confused. Why would a debt collector say that money you paid them was refundable? Perhaps you were applying for a loan? If so, and if this is an advance loan loan scam, the promise refund is worthless. Did you wire money to them via Western Union by chance? If so, then it’s probably gone to someone overseas already.
A woman named “Cindy” from “RA Associates” left a message on my voice mail saying that the call was about a debt and that if I did not contact them
Im glad you posted this, i just lost $ 150 to this [redacted]. So today I had a similar call about another payday loan i supposedly had taken out, but didnt. I will be blocking my debit card now, thank you for posting.
My husband got a call from BG capital they said they were in New York but who really knows. The gentleman sd he was an investigator w
If you are being sued for a debt, you may be served. But they’re not going to just “haul you to jail” just because you can not pay a debt. My suggestion? Ask for written verification of the debt you are entitled to by law. They will not possibly send it.
DUBNER: Obviously the history of lending is long and often, at least in my reading, tied to religion. There is a prohibition against it in Deuteronomy and elsewhere in the Old Testament. It’s in the New Testament. In Shakespeare, the Merchant of Venice was not the hero. So, do you think that the general view of this kind of lending is colored by an emotional or moral argument too much at the expense of an economic and practical argument?
I had some guy call me today i said I’m calling to inform you that I’m filing or processing papers I’ve got for you an I’m supposed to inform you or talk with you before he files it to the king county court I do not have what I should do, I’m not working I have no money I do not have a last year someone tried to suing me for a payday loan that was from 207 or 08 what can they do?
No, debtors are not allowed to threaten you. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is now taking complaints about collection practices. You can file one here:
I received a recorded call at work that said I had written a bad check and would be sent court papers at home or at work that day. The message then left 1888-786-0630 or 1888-390-5129 to call to try to settle or plan a payment plan. I got really scared and called the number. The lady said she was from Johnson York LLC and that they are middle man to recover past due payday loans. I do not think I owe this debt, but I was so shaken that I paid them $ 50, and set up a payment plan of $ 200 a month to pay a total of $ 960.00. She sent me an email receipt but it does not look legitimate to me. Their logo is weird, there is no address, and no website. She said it’s a loan with quick cash. I tried to google quick cash and nothing comes up. I do not want to keep them if this is a scam, and I guess the worst that could happen is to be served or have my check garnished? I just do not like the fact that they are calling my work place. Should I call them back and ask them for their address, business license and for the original paperwork for the debt? I’m not sure if this is a real collection agency. Please help!
I had a company contact me today and they said I have a furniture store I did not have an account with the company but they will not send me any documentation from there company and said if I do not pay in an hour a warrant will be released and I will be arrested I’m going to school and do not want to mess up my life so I should pay them
I got a call from this woman today, from a lady who said she was from a carrier service. She was calling me to tell me that she would be delivering a letter for me to appear in court on Friday. I asked her for her contact number and what carrier service she worked for. She told me that it was not important, that she served documents all over the county. She would not tell me the county in which she worked in either. She then went on to call me to find out more.1855-282-2535. I then called this number and they told me they represented two friends who claimed that I took out 2 payday loans last year. I never took any payday loans. Ironically, these loans were supposed to have been deposited in an account that had been closed 2 months before the date they said I took them. I asked for the contact numbers for the compines and was told they did not have a number for them, I would have to Google them and get the contact number that way. How can someone be representing someone in legal matters and have no contact number for them? Anyway, I asked for documentation that I owed this money and proof that I really took out these loans and was told they did not have it, I would have to contact the loan companies to get that info. If these people are taking me to my local court they should not have this info?
Back when he was a private businessman, Trump learned how to use law as a weapon. The lesson he took from that is that if your pockets are deep enough – and your conscience dull enough – it does not matter that you are wrong. The other party will be broken before you will lose.
I’m sorry to hear you pay this debt! It sounds like they are the ones acting illegally. Debts included in bankruptcy are protected by the automatic stay, and once the debt is discharged to a creditor can not try to collect it.
This is a common tactic that is used to scare you into pay without questioning the validity of the debt. There are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
This morning I received a call, and my father did as well, from 716-244-6551. I was given a number ID. I do not answer unknown numbers. I call back after hearing a voice mail. My dad told me that they issued a warrant for my arrest in Bexar County. I called them back because the voicemail they left was basically stating the same thing.
The explanation for this is not simple, and a variety of economic jargon floats around the issue. But it’s all started with this: The typical payday-consumer loan is too desperate, too unsophisticated, or too exhausted from being treated with disrespect by traditional lenders to engage in shopping. So demand is what economists call price tax. As Clarence Hodson, who published a book in 1919 about the business of small loans, put it, “It is not possible for bargain to benefit with cupidity.” In its last financial year, Advance America, one of the country’s largest payday lenders, wrote, “We believe that the main competitive factor is customer service, rental, convenience, speed, and confidentiality.” You will notice it did not mention the price.
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This money, still no amount was disclosed, he just wanted my attorneys name because I had felony criminal charges against a very serious matter. Again I asked for it in writing and he got very hateful, asked me to hang on while he got his supervisor and the phone got disconnected. I called the number right back and it went to a voice message, again with no greeting, just leave your name and number. I thought it was all done, I received another call Nov 30 at my workplace, this time from Jack Thomas (again very heavy Indian accent) and he is supposidly with Kevin Peterson Law Agency in New York only the phone number was 516-847-4310 which is supposidly out of New York. I contacted my local police department at this time, gave them all 3 of these different phone numbers and they tried to call them but only to receive the “no-greeting” voice mail. So today, Dec 2 I get a call from Kevin Peterson, Attorney at Law out of San Francisco, Ca from 530-344-4624 Tell me he will have the local sheriff come to my place of work and serve me with papers, again Kevin has very broken english and very heavy Indian accent. The accusations they are making are awful, does anyone know what can be done. I am sick to death with this
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