DeYOUNG: Well, in a short sentence that’s very scientific I would start by saying, “Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.” The question comes down to how we identify the water here and how do we identify the baby here. One way is to collect a lot of information, as the CFPB suggests, about the creditworthiness of the borrower. But that brings up production cost of payday loans and will probably put the industry out of business. But I think we can all agree that once someone pays a fee in an aggregate amount equal to the amount that was originally borrowed, that’s pretty clear that there’s a problem there.
It sounds like if you’re talking to a scammer. (See 9 Signs You Are Talking to Debt Collection Scammer.) Real collectors are not allowed to make such threats (and do you really think the government insists on the payment made by a certain issuer and a certain drugstore chain). The caller is trying to get you in the way that makes your money unrecoverable once you realize it’s a scam. (See The One Way You Should Never Pay Debt Collector.)
I took a loan from Money and More in July 2008 and paid the loan back in Aug of 2008 with an electronic with drawl; by Money and More. I had the bank send me my bank records showing both of these trans shares however I was told that unless I had a letter from Money and More that this had been paid my bank records are useless. I have had many payday loans over the years and have never received a full payment from any of them but have always been able to contact them online to check my history can not do this with money and more and the only phone number I can find is not inserving 951-922-6286 who is the scammer ?????. The calls do not come every day they are about 1 or 2 weeks apart. guess I’ll just have to wait and see if they are doing papers on me they know a lot of my personal information as told them I would not send them my bank statements she then recited my bank account number from the account I had at that time has since changed accounts. I have asked for things in writing and have to recieve anything.
I received a call today from 888-958-3653 from a guy named mark saying I took out a payday loan back in 2007 and i owed $ 425.00 said I had to pay in full by oct 31st or will be sued or my salary garnished i asked for their mailing address and he refused to five it to me and i asked if they could send me documentation in the mail and he said they were strictly a paperless company he said i had to give him my credit card before they could send me any information so you can not say he did not get my credit card info, the company is westwood mediation
DEYOUNG: This is why price caps are a bad idea. Because if the solution was implemented as I suggest and, in fact, payday lenders lost some of their most profitable customers – because now we’re not getting that fee the 6th and 7th time from them – then the price would have to go up. And we would not let the market determine whether or not at that high price we still have the need to use the product.
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I’ve never heard of Money More or Money, but received a letter (very unprofessional actually signed in ink) by some small time debt collector claiming I pay or settlement (Payback & Associates, Henderson. places appear to be in NV).
I received a call yesterday from a law office stating that they were going to have me arrested for fraud and theft for not paying a payday loan. They said that it had been over 21 days since I made a payment and that if I wanted to go out of court that all I needed to do was put $ 385 on a green dot moneypak card by today. I have taken out two payday loans just recently and just had my first payment due on Friday which I paid. The number that they are calling from is 401-648-7325 by Lisa Green. She also said that the money had been deposited in my account and when they tried to pay out they were not able to. They also did not give me information on when the deposit took place and what company the payday loan was through. This sounds like a lot of the other posts that I have read but I do not want to take the chance of being arrested … what do I do ??
I suppose you are just reporting this and not thinking about sending them money – at least I hope so! If you talk with them, send them a written notice of the debt by mail as required by law. But it sounds like it’s a scam and they will not.
scammers start telling you you’re going to be arrested and they’re going to garnish your salary THAT’S BULLS # $ T. That requires a court order and by law you are notified of the court date in writing so you have a chance to show up. No matter how much they threaten you NEVER give them your personal information, bank account numbers, social security anything. They’re on a fishing trip and the more info you give them, the easier it is to clean you out.Notify your family, friends and especially your boss that you are being scamed.Then if the scammers call them they will not be caught off guard.Let a stop to these theives, all debt collection is regulated by Federal Law. Get informed. Know what the Statute of Limitations is in your state. Do not answer the phone and give these scammers an invitation to make your life miserable.
This is a common tactic that is used to scare you into pay without questioning the validity of the debt. There are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
Please do not send them any money. Of them were a legitimate debt collector they would have to send you a written confirmation of the debt.
I got scammed. I am inthe process of settling the loan, but getting calls from people claiming to state state attorneys and one claiming to be an investigator or a detective and want me to settle out of court and make payment to him. He claims I will be arested and put in jail.
If these are legitimate collectors then they will stop calling at work once they are instructed by you to do so. That’s federal law
I’ve been getting calls from strange numbers lately so I have not answered. On 10
After reading everyone’s comments it sounds like I should not give in giving them money for a PDL I never received. The scary thing is what will happen if I do not ignore this. I mean is there a real legitimate way they can have any impact on my credit or SS # or place of employment?
Same thing happened to me the same name and number on my phone. The number to get in touch with Ms. Ingram is 1-877- 258- 1188. When asked the name of this company they refused to give information and hung up. Names used are Ms. Barry, Ms. Ingram, and today Ms. Rios. They are threatening me with wage garnishment etc. They refused to give the name of and original debtor. I have no recollection of oweing. Need to know who to call to stop this.
My husband got a call from BG capital they said they were in New York but who really knows. The gentleman sd he was an investigator w
I had calls from Texas and the guy was just talking and talking and he would not let me talk so I said how to pay you, he said give me your debit card, so I said **** you, and he said The cops are going to come in 24 hours and I’m going to lose the case, so I said **** you again, think about what person is Arabic is named Michael brown
Joseph – You may want to alert your employer. This scam is well documented from many sources so hopefully your employer would be understanding if you explained that you are being targeted by a scammer.
I’ve been receiving similar phone calls from 877-824-6758 and 866-981-6854, from a guy named “Bill Davis” and a woman named “Amy Rogers” who claims to Bill’s “partner” .. they first called my work and left a message with my supervisor, claiming that they have two charges against me and that if I do not contact them they are going to serve me at work. Then the call to my cell and the threatening messages followed. I finally blocked them on my cell. So, “Amy” called my brother’s phone and left a message for him, saying that I had charges against me and I was being taken to court. This really ****** me off !! What can be done to stop these people? Can I report them to the police? !!! I’m getting fed up !!!
My husband and I filed bankruptcy due to unforeseen circumstances and we had an outstanding payday loan. My attorney explained to us that a payday loan is treated as an unsecured debt and would file the papers and there was no need to worry about this because it would be included in the bankruptcy as unsecured. Needless to say I got a very dangerous call from a company called US Capital Management (855) 596-0411. They said they represented MYMONEYCHEST.com and they would see us in court for a balance. I asked the woman to contact my attorney and they said they could not because they are just the middle man in this. I told her if there is a balance and we are currently in a bankruptcy, there should be no reason they could not reach out to our attorney. I called my attorney and he said to have them call him. They will not! They told me that they were going to serve me papers at my job. Is this possible? Can they do that? I can not get them to give me any paperwork about this balance owed.
serve me papers. She lives in Chicago and I live in southern Illinois. I called to see what was going on just to find out it’s a bill I’ve already paid off. The person on the phone told me that my account was just sold to them and they hired a locator to find me to serve me papers. They did not want to serve me at work. I told her it was paid off in July and she said I had to get a “Pay in Full” letter from the collector and they would drop it. I called Asset Management and they are sending me a letter. Asset gave me the corporate number for The Cash Store, I called and was told it was fraud and to stop all contact with this company. I’m still going to send in my “pay in full” letter but if I get anything from BOR again I’m going to go after them for violations of the law. This is ridiculous. I keep good records of all my payments and debts (I’ve had many over the years), I know a lot of people do not. They would have just paid them.
You can report to your state attorney general office, and you can submit a complaint to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. However, the people you are dealing with may be out of the country or may have a “business” that often changes names. You are wise to ask for validation of the debt. A legitimate collector would have provided it. Keep the evidence that the loan was repaid and try not to worry. We are written about what to do when you receive a call before. Perhaps it will be useful to you.
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I received a phone call today from an “investigator” stating that there is an investigation on me that I have to give a verbal statement. I called the woman back and she gave me this talk about it’s because of a unpaid payday loan from like 2007. I told her it was not on my credit report and asked why. She replied because “the US federal government is holding your ssn and that it would not show up anyway because it was an open case” (the open case thing is false I know, just checked my credit report again, there’s open things on there ….)
Yes .. I’m getting the same calls as you and from the same guy .. Timothy and yes, he said he’s calling from ADR .. and today I got a call from Tom Hayden who did not identify the company he was he .. he said he received a fax in his office and I had one chance to clear it up by calling 877 548-4064 .. he said I have charges pending against me and would be served. He did not leave a number he could be reached at only ADR’s number. When I called the lady said that I had a loan PD and that I had to pay it right then over the phone by credit card or debit card or give them a member of the credit card etc .. otherwise I was going to be served and would have to go to court and possibly be jailed for check fraud. She then put her “boss” on the phone who named her Gregory Scott and said she would do me a favor and reduce the amount owed by 200.00 which is what she was going to pay the server to come and serve me papers but Only if I can secure him with a debit card or credit card. I asked him where he thought I could get one and he said ACE cash express .. I told him I did not have a credit card nor did I have a pre-paid debit card .. I asked him for the information in writing so I could verify that they were legit and he hung up on me. Seriously, maybe we should do something about this ADR company .. they called my cousin and I never used my cousin as ANYTHING reference and they threatened him (this time when he just lost his sister to cancer) and they told him he needed to secure my debt.
MARC FUSARO: The Consumer Credit Research Foundation and I had an interest in the paper being as clear as possible. And if anyone, including Hilary Miller, would take a paragraph that I had written and re-wrote it in a way that made what I was trying to say more clearly, I’m happy for that kind of advice. I’ve taken papers to the university writing center before and they’ve helped me make my writing more clear. And there’s nothing scandalous about that, at all. I mean the results of the paper have never been called into question. Nobody had suggested I changed any other results or anything like that based on any comments from anybody. Frankly, I think this is much ado about nothing.
… and remember … do not sign anything at your doorstep …

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