Sorry to hear a scammer made your day so difficult, but we are relieved to do not send a moneygram. Those, along with prepaid cards, are popular ways for scammers to take advantage of scared consumers. But good for you for doing the research and figuring out it was a scam.
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I’m very leary about calling them back and giving them my current address as I do not have them to have another piece of the puzzle if this is a scam. It’s just that the lady not only sounded sympathetic but did give me good good advice in this case is the theft ID. but again if the debt was real and even if someone used my ID to get these loans the PayDay Loan companies had a current and active bank account that could have accessed.
1. I am a regular or resident member of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, or Coast Guard, which does not specify a period of 30 days or less of a member of the Armed Forces on active duty. The member of the Armed Forces on active duty as described above is the member’s spouse, the member of the child under the age of eighteen years old, or a person for whom the member provided more than one half of his
DeYOUNG: Borrowing money is like renting money. You have to use it for a few weeks. You could rent a car for two weeks, right? You get to use that car. Well, if you calculate the annual percentage rate on that car rental – that means that you divide the amount you pay on that car by the value of that automobile – you get similarly high rates. So this is not about interest. This is about short-term use of a product that’s been lent to you. This is just arithmetic.
Just to be clear, these are not collectors trying to collect legitimate debts. Most of the complaints on our forums, and to the AG AG include consumers who have never taken a payday loan, or who may have initiated one but never actually secured the loan. In some cases, the “collector” has detailed information about the victim – such as name, address and social security number – which makes the debt appear to be real.
DUBNER: Let’s say you have a one-on-one audience with President Obama. We know that the President understands economics pretty well or, I would argue that at least. What’s your pitch to the President for how this industry should be treated and not eliminated?
A “Russell Florence” left me threatening voice mail warning me that I would be getting useful paperwork next week from two complaints filed against my SS # (the SS # was not verified on the message)
Do not panic. You have the right under the federal law to request the verification of the debt and the debt collector must provide it. They also must provide you with their contact information if you request it. So next time they call, ask for their mailing address. If they do not give it to you then they are either a. a scam or b. a rogue collector who is breaking the law.
• Ask the collector for the name and address of the collection agency for which he or she works. Then ask him to send you written information about the debt. Any legitimate debt collection agency will do this because it is required under the federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
DeYoung also argues that most payday borrowers know exactly what they’re getting into when they sign up; that they’re not unwitting and desperate people who are being preyed on. He points to a key piece of research by Ronald Mann; That’s another co-author on the New York Fed blog post.
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I did not give her my new address. I know the debt is not mine and sound bogus. As my bank representative pointed out it, if the debt was real I would have noticed either the money being withdrawn or would have seen a bunch overdrawn transactions. The Account was active until last week when I closed it. So he said the only way they do not get paid is if you withdraw all your money or you close the account the loan is linked to. So that’s what’s setting off some red flags that this may be scam.
Tami – what’s wrong with me is talking about “bad checks” – not about the fact that you have a debt. This makes me think they’re going to tell you that you’re going to be arrested for checking fraud if you do not pay. Again, ask them to send you a written notice of the debt required by the federal law – the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
Turn the tables on this caller. Tell her you have written written notice of the debt which is your right under federal law. If she refuses to give it to her you will be recording all future calls to turn over the authorities.
If you find some of the modern economic scenario, most people have at least one horse in every race, which makes it difficult to separate advocacy and reality. So let’s go where Freakonomics Radio often goes when we want to find someone who does not have a horse in the race: to academia. Let’s ask some academic researchers if the payday-loan industry is really as nasty as it looks.
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he was not allowed to do that since I was at a negative I told him it would go thru, so I told him I would give him my daughters debit card number she had the money and she said it was to be under my name so he told me to get a cash pak (green dot) and call him back with the number on the back. I did that and have to pay another 200 on the 16th and then the other 200.00 next month because he took 300.00 off the original price I owed. I paid the $ 100 because I was scared and did not want my husband to go to jail but I told him I wanted paperwork sent to me and he said he would send it when it was paid off but he would send me a redirect to my email and I have not got it yet. I wish I knew he was really with the Federal Crime Dept like he said he is or if he is a fraud. Cause I do not want to give him anymore but I do not want my husband to go to jail. I know we got a loan thru them but it was supposed to come out of our acct everydayday but he said they tried and it was not taken out due to insufficient funds but I can not remember wheather it was paid off or not. Does anyone know a site I can look under to see if this is fraud? Please HELP
Cream – do not respond or engage any further. A legitimate collector would not send all of this through email. We will also encourage you to file a formal complaint – of which you have several options – and you may even wish to forward the email in question to help investigate the fraud
poor reviews. This Marsha has told me that I’m being sued for nonpayment and that they need to be contacted by my lawyer and today wanted to know if I was going to defend myself or what. she says my account number is 14918-1219 also that my conscience would be suspended for 120 days WHAT LIC. and when I asked was given a list of possible lic that could be suspended including my drivers lic.
I just dealt with ACS. They have been hounding me for a couple of weeks trying to get me a total of $ 625. One person calls immediately to the “supervisor”, Denis Petersen. They even faxed and emailed me to complete (completely bogus) to authorize a credit card only payment plan. When the first payment came, they became very aggressive, calling my cell phone over a dozen times in a row in one instance. Today they called my primary job (hospital ER) yelled at a nurse and called her a stupid bitch, my coworkers rightly freaked and went to my manager who called me. I assured her that people were scammers and told her I would immediately call the FTC and states the attorney’s office, which I did. I also had her apologize to my coworkers. I was so upset, I was shaking. I called ACS and confronted Denis Petersen, who had been the fake supervisor bullying these payments. He told me he could call me the same things and hung up when I said his behavior was illegal. I then received two calls on my cell. I call back and say stop calling my cell. This Denis Peterson goes to the person who called me “Why did you call her cell, I told you to call her work so she loses her job!” I just
We are working on some of our payday loans clients and they are getting these same calls. One of the customers were scared in paying them until I looked it up. They said they were from payday loan recovery group. Saying she owed a loan from 2008 for 1,200 and she could pay it in full for $ 399. She was scared in paying but I told her to cancel her creid card before it went through. They send her an invoice on the decline. The processing company is http:
from her again. I do not know if this is connected, but really regretting the small payday loan online in order to pay my rent when I was out of work. Now I do not know what I’m facing with the legal document threats and can not contact the source caller for information in order to try and resolve whatever is the issue. Now that I read the other postings, I’m not sure if I made a payment to a legitimate source either because just after making the loan random deductions started coming out of my checking account so badly that I had to shut it down. Hope my posting this information helps someone who is thinking about taking a chance with online payday loans, and thank you for the website to share and help others in such need.
Ann, I just got a call last week from the same phone number. A “Juan Hernandez” has called me saying I owed on a payday loan; that it was taken out in 2008 and when the company tried to collect in 2009, there were insufficient funds. They are threatening to suspend my driver’s license unless I pay them $ 300 within 48 hours – after that, it becomes $ 1400. I was so upset, I went to the bank and got all my bank statements from December 2008 to present. Nothing returned for insufficient funds. Mr. Hernandez just called me at work today and I’m about to call him back. What a scam – happy you did not fall for it!
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If you do not repay your loan, the payday lender or a debt collector can generally sue you to collect. If they win, or if you do not dispute the lawsuit or claim, the court will enter a order or judgment against you. The order or judgment will state the amount of money you owe. The lender or collector can then get a garnishment order against you.
I just got a call stating that i was for fees for payday loan company, it really freaked me out because the message left on my answer machine said something about restraining order and they used my maiden name so I called the number left on my machine It was 813-217-5283 I asked for Tina Charles the woman who left her name I got this guy and he said well the loan company that found the lenders got a fee and that’s what i defaulted on i told him i did not see that in any of the sites and he said that sounds ridicules I told him you sound ridicules and then i yelled goodbye and hung up. I would not have given them any money any way but still it freaked me out
Elizabeth Warren has endorsed the idea of the Postal Service partnering with banks to offer short-term loans. But even some fellow opponents of payday think that’s unfeasible. In a New York Times op-ed last fall, Frederick Wherry, a sociologist professor at Yale, pointed out that doing this would require the Postal Service to have all new infrastructure, and its new full skills set employees. Another alternative would seem to be online companies, because they do not have the storefront overhead. But they may have difficulty managing the fraud, and they themselves are difficult to police, so they may at times evade state caps on interest rates. So far, the rates charged by many Internet lenders seem to be higher, not lower, than those charged by traditional lenders. (Elevate Credit, which says it has a sophisticated, technological-based way of underwriting loans, brags that its loans for the “new middle class” are half the cost of typical payday loans – but it is selective in its lending, and still charges about 200 percent annually.) Promising out-of-the-box ideas, in other words, are in short supply.
No, debtors are not allowed to threaten you. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is now taking complaints about collection practices. You can file one here:
DUBNER: Obviously the history of lending is long and often, at least in my reading, tied to religion. There is a prohibition against it in Deuteronomy and elsewhere in the Old Testament. It’s in the New Testament. In Shakespeare, the Merchant of Venice was not the hero. So, do you think that the general view of this kind of lending is colored by an emotional or moral argument too much at the expense of an economic and practical argument?
DEYOUNG: I had written that paper, and had I know 100 percent of the facts about where the data came from and who paid for it – yes, I would have disclosed that. I do not think it’s one way or the other in terms of what the research found and what the paper says.
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That’s the real question Kristen. How do we stop them? If they are calling from overseas and flouting our laws, what can we do? I recommend that you file a complaint with your state attorney general, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (consumerfinance.gov) and the Better Business Bureau with as many details as possible, in case there is an investigation into this company. In the meantime, you may want to find out if your phone company offers a call screening service. It will cost a few bucks a month but may be useful.
Tricia – You can ask the “firm” for proof of the debt. By law, the company must provide this to you. The firm can not serve you. Understanding Your Debt Collection Rights. Scammers sometimes get their money by frightening people; try to stay calm, and do not be intimidated in paying money you do not have to.
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lending at 25 percent a year, there are no stores at all.
This person called my job and blocked their number. He left me a message saying his name is Michael Hunter and that he is the senior locator for the processing and summons division for the state of Florida. He said I needed to contact my case worker, Mr. Moss immediately about 2 fraud charges against me for writing bad checks and that need to serve me with a warrant. I did not call them back and did google search on this and saw it’s some kind of a scam. They have also called my job, but we have a call center who would not put the call through. He said I needed to call 1-888-978-4319 extension 147 and that my case number is 431-923
WERTH: It’s hard to say. Actually, we just do not know. But whatever their incentive might be, their FOIA applications have produced what looks like some pretty damning e-mails between CCRF – which, again, receives funding from payday lenders – and academic researchers who have written about payday lending.
We had a scam call today, they called about a supposed payday loan from 2008. They called me, my husband, my daughter and my daughter in law on our cell phones. We did not even know my girlfriend in 2008, at all. They have everyone’s social and home address, including my son’s new home address. Said my husband owes them $ 2500 and that she would get papers served at her home if we did not pay. I asked them what they would have been serving the papers, she said, hold on let me look, then she changed the subject and never answered. 1-855-201-8789 was the number they gave to call back but they first call you from a private number. Once I figured out I was dealing with scam, I started to call them back informing them that I had filed reports, recorded calls from them, I read them some scam warnings about themselves off the internet, … this is how I got rid of the last scammers, I just kept calling them reminding them of how I knew they were scam and reading them things off the internet about themselves and reading them the current rules they were breaking, etc … I did not cuss or get ugly, I was just matter of fact I’m curious though of how they got my son and daughter in law and phone numbers.
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Gerri offers excellent advice on how to handle a debt collection here: If you are looking for a good deal,
The French philosopher Alain Finkielkraut, the son of Holocaust survivors, is an accomplished, even gifted, pessimist. To his disciples, he is Jewish Zola, accusing France’s well-thoughtful intellectual class of complicity in its own suicide. To his foes, he is a reactionary whose nostalgia for fairy tale French past is induced by an irrational fear of Muslims. Finkielkraut’s cast of mind is generally dark, but when we met in Paris in early January, two days after the Charlie Hebdo massacre, he was positively grim.
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