These payday loan collectors are using a new scared tactic now. They are saying I’m filing fraud charges with your county and you will be summoned to court for fraud. I know you can not threaten a person over the phone but these are the calls I’ve got back to back
This has all the hallmarks of the payday loan collection scam that’s happening all over the country. I am quite confident you will not be served with any kind of papers. Even if they could sue you, they could not suspend your license! (As you say, what is the license?)
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of my ssn # and threatened to take me to court, but I have been ignoring his calls. Can you tell me if he really did anything. Thanks.
Sadly, these types of scammers are good at what they do and very convincing. They prey on consumers that are not aware of the rules and use scare tactics to convince them otherwise. You hit the nail on the head with this:
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The explanation for this is not simple, and a variety of economic jargon floats around the issue. But it’s all started with this: The typical payday-consumer loan is too desperate, too unsophisticated, or too exhausted from being treated with disrespect by traditional lenders to engage in shopping. So demand is what economists call price tax. As Clarence Hodson, who published a book in 1919 about the business of small loans, put it, “It is not possible for bargain to benefit with cupidity.” In its last financial year, Advance America, one of the country’s largest payday lenders, wrote, “We believe that the main competitive factor is customer service, rental, convenience, speed, and confidentiality.” You will notice it did not mention the price.
I received several calls from a donna mitchell she gave me a phone number to call 877-882-2435 with a case # i call tehm tehy say the are NCR (National Check Resolution) i really do not belive them when they say they are come to my place of work or my home to serve me .. i know it dosen’t happen that way i have talked to my local police officer and he said not to worry about it. But this time they sound so real .. I know i owe the money but the amout they gave me is atrocious. I just missed one payment and now they want about 800.00 when i only borrowed 350 and i’ve been paying 37.50 since may .. the lady (lisa) said i really do not care if you just pay or i just just a I do not know that it’s really good, it’s really good, it’s really good .. so i’m a little concerned i do not want to ignore it but it all sounds so weird during the whole phone call wiht lisa she kept putting me on hold. she said they would file with the clerk of court for fraud by deception .. and will only let me pay by credit card. I told her I wanted them to send me a bill in the mail and she said they told her they tried to contact me by email .. can not send by mail. I asked by mail again and to send in in payment .. I’m not sure to send them money my gut feeling does not send it to them … but my concious i know i owe the money ..
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I’ve received calls like this before, where they call me and my work. But, today I got a call from a private investigator named John McCaffrey from 855-656-5010. The message stated that there were charges of fraud being placed against me and my attorney would have to speak about case number # 14831-TX69. He said I was to appear at my local county courthouse to take care of the mater. What was disturbing is that he also called my mother’s phone number and my sister-in-law phone number, leaving the same message from me. The message at their numbers stated that I was to appear in court at their local courthouse. How are I supposed to appear at three different courts for the same case ???? This is how to fishy !!
Shani – You should NOT pay a debt collector without first verifying the debt. Now that they know you will pay, they will probably intensify their efforts. I recommend you file complaints with your state attorney general office and the Federal Trade Comission. You may also have to call screening through your phone company if they will not stop calling you.
Even though there may not be a lot you can do about the call, it may be worthwhile to file a complaint with your state attorney general and with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
Tell me that I owe a paydate loan and that I need to call her and make arrangements. She is calling me on my job and on a new cell number that I have. Now she is calling my family and threatening them That they are going to arrest me. Please help. 800-290-1065. SHe calls three times a day or more. Help.
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Same thing happened to me today with the 6308445678 number. She told me I took out this loan in 08 but when I asked her the name on the loan she told me it was my marriage name that I did not have until after that date. Then I told her I’m not working and she said she did not know why anyone in their right mind would not want a job or have a job. She then said “Well, I have a job and pay my bills” Little does she know I’m staying at home mom taking care of MY kids! Ugh so annoying!
wish I had an answer for you as far as stopping the calls. You may want to find out if your company offers service that screens calls for you. (It requires callers to announce themselves and then choose whether to take the call.) Google voice does this for free. It will allow you to select which calls you can use without announcements and which you have to screen. I use Google voice and like it alot. It can do the trick for you.
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I’ve been getting phone messages from a place that calls themselves “fraud division” with a Nebraska number claiming that it had taken out a loan in 2013 (which I have not), they claim that if I did not come up with 1169.50 of which I had to pay half today that they were going to forward the
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Cream – do not respond or engage any further. A legitimate collector would not send all of this through email. We will also encourage you to file a formal complaint – of which you have several options – and you may even wish to forward the email in question to help investigate the fraud
Be aware that some payday lenders have threatened garnishment in order to get borrowers to pay, even though they do not have a court order or judgment. If that should happen, you may want to seek legal assistance.
I just got a call stating that i was for fees for payday loan company, it really freaked me out because the message left on my answer machine said something about restraining order and they used my maiden name so I called the number left on my machine It was 813-217-5283 I asked for Tina Charles the woman who left her name I got this guy and he said well the loan company that found the lenders got a fee and that’s what i defaulted on i told him i did not see that in any of the sites and he said that sounds ridicules I told him you sound ridicules and then i yelled goodbye and hung up. I would not have given them any money any way but still it freaked me out
Same phone number only was a Tina, wanted to pay me $ 690.00 to pay off pay day, asked for the original bill said they didn; t have it, gave me 1 week then garnishment called my lawyer yet to hear back.
Reg – This is a common tactic that is used to scare you into pay without questioning the validity of the debt. There are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
Joseph – You may want to alert your employer. This scam is well documented from many sources so hopefully your employer would be understanding if you explained that you are being targeted by a scammer.
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So I did call them back, spoke to a different person, to inform them that this is bogus and there is no record of any kind for any payday loan. I started to tell her what the bank associate told me about how payday loans work and if I or someone else did not take these loans there would be a try to collect on in through my bank account. She said she knows how they work and do not need me to explain it to her. She also told me that since they are only a mediation firm that is just looking for volunteer settlements of the debts they are not bound to the Fair Debt and Collections Act and said we are not going to force you to pay this back to our client.
consumers, is going too far. Under the plan it is now considering, lenders would have to make sure that borrowers can repay their loans and cover other living expenses without extensive defaults or reborrowing. These actions would really seem to curtail the possibility of people falling into debt traps with payday lenders. But the industry argues that the rules would be put out of business. And while a self-serving howl of pain is precisely what you would expect from any industry under government fire, this appears, based on the business model, to be true-not only would the regulations eliminate the very loans from which the industry makes its money, but they would also introduce significant new underwriting costs on every loan.
he was not allowed to do that since I was at a negative I told him it would go thru, so I told him I would give him my daughters debit card number she had the money and she said it was to be under my name so he told me to get a cash pak (green dot) and call him back with the number on the back. I did that and have to pay another 200 on the 16th and then the other 200.00 next month because he took 300.00 off the original price I owed. I paid the $ 100 because I was scared and did not want my husband to go to jail but I told him I wanted paperwork sent to me and he said he would send it when it was paid off but he would send me a redirect to my email and I have not got it yet. I wish I knew he was really with the Federal Crime Dept like he said he is or if he is a fraud. Cause I do not want to give him anymore but I do not want my husband to go to jail. I know we got a loan thru them but it was supposed to come out of our acct everydayday but he said they tried and it was not taken out due to insufficient funds but I can not remember wheather it was paid off or not. Does anyone know a site I can look under to see if this is fraud? Please HELP
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Oh and they said it was for a payday loan, the lender was American Credit Services. When I said I never got a payday loan, he said he did not care where the money went but stealing it if I do not pay it back.
This company keeps calling me telling me they have papers to serve on me but first they need to contact me before they can serve them and i call them back and they say it ms solutions and i ask for information and address on them and they say they can not give it to me and they are a law firm but its different people that keep calling and when you call back they want you to verify your ss number and address so they can deliver what they have for you. Thanks Robin
6pm rcvd calls repeatedly from Michael Moore of “Fraud Office” trying to collect a debt from November 2008, which I’m sure I do not have to Money and More. Alledges, to Jasmine Wright and Maria Sanches that I have commited fraud and a warrant would be issued for my arrest if I do not send $ 1107.15 thru Money Gram and am harrased to send it immediately or expect to be arrested by 8am the next day . After several calls from my attorney to the # 5133994987, left messages, etc., no calls for a few hours now.
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numbers online and it looks they dont exist. I’m trying to report them before someone else becomes a victim.
you took out these loans now you people dont want to pay them back and eveyone wonders why the economy is the way it’s a cause of people like you get off ur a ** and get a job and start paying back your debt
Perhaps a solution of sorts-something that is better, but not perfect-could come from more modest reforms to the payday-lending industry, rather than trying to transform it. There are some evidence that smart regulation can improve the business for both lenders and consumers. In 2010, Colorado revised its payday-lending industry by reducing the permissible fees, extending the minimum term of a loan to six months, and requiring that a loan be repayable over time, instead of coming due all at once. Pew reports that half of the payday stores in Colorado are closed, but now everyday payday borrowers are paying 42% less in fees and defaulting less frequently, with no reduction in access to credit. “There’s been a debate for 20 years about whether to allow payday lending or not,” says Pew’s Alex Horowitz. “Colorado shows it can be much, better.”
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here in the states. Pretty much the same crap right now it’s from the homeland. Recently it has been from Obrien, Wexler and Associates 877-334-5288. They called my home and left a message, called my cell, called work and even called my brother that I’m not sure how they got his number. I wonder if they searched it because it has never been on a payday loan app.
My husband and I filed bankruptcy due to unforeseen circumstances and we had an outstanding payday loan. My attorney explained to us that a payday loan is treated as an unsecured debt and would file the papers and there was no need to worry about this because it would be included in the bankruptcy as unsecured. Needless to say I got a very dangerous call from a company called US Capital Management (855) 596-0411. They said they represented MYMONEYCHEST.com and they would see us in court for a balance. I asked the woman to contact my attorney and they said they could not because they are just the middle man in this. I told her if there is a balance and we are currently in a bankruptcy, there should be no reason they could not reach out to our attorney. I called my attorney and he said to have them call him. They will not! They told me that they were going to serve me papers at my job. Is this possible? Can they do that? I can not get them to give me any paperwork about this balance owed.
DEYOUNG: Yes, I like to think of myself as an objective observer of social activity, as an economist. But there is one section of the blog where we highlight mixed evidence. That helps you to reduce the risk of money at home level. And we also point to, I believe, an equal number of studies in that section that find the exact opposite. And then of course there is another section in the blog where we point directly to rollovers and rollovers is where the rubber hits the road on this. If we can somehow predict which folks will not be able to handle this product and will roll it over incessantly, then we can impress on payday lenders not to make the loans to those people. This product, in fact, is especially badly suited to predict this because the payday lender gets a small number of pieces of information when she makes the loan, as opposed to the information that a regulated financial institution would collect. The cost of collecting that information, of underwriting the loan in the traditional way that a bank would be, would be too high for the payday to offer the product. If we load up additional costs on the production of these loans, the loans will not be profitable any longer.
I am curious as to what the credit reporting companies plan to do about reporting these animals do! I can not buy a house right now because of a “loan” that I did not take that is being reported on my credit! This has to stop. They can not just mess with people like this. I had to hire an attorney!
I too was a victim but never again. These fools still call me. Ronnie Cooper, David Cooper, John McCoy. Ph’s 987-928-2683, 909-503-0684,949-752-4600,958-489-0227 and 214-446-9831. Same old scam, I did not give that a red hundred !! FYI !! Please read this on MSN today. Do not let these people get to you !! Please be aware.
STANDAERT: These payday loans cost borrowers hundreds of dollars for what is marketed as a small loan. And the Center for Responsible Lending has estimated that payday loan costs over $ 3.4 billion per year from low-income consumers stuck in the payday-loan debt trap.
If you are being sued for a debt, you may be served. But they’re not going to just “haul you to jail” just because you can not pay a debt. My suggestion? Ask for written verification of the debt you are entitled to by law. They will not possibly send it.
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