I’ve been calling for two months now that we’re going to sue me on 300 dollar case but was charging me 9000 for checking fraud missing on payments so they are tired and are going to serve me at my job and pick me up on this charge that have been brught before me to have never got a check book before online web site is making these aligation against me
Next time they call them that you have told them to the authorities and that you would like to record the conversation. That’s very well stop them. If not, talk with your phone company to see if you can set up some kind of call block or call screening so they can not get through.
DeYOUNG: They do not overdraft the checking account and take out the payday loan because they’ve done the calculus. That overdrafting on four or five checks at their bank is going to cost them more money than taking out the payday loan.
To repay the loan, you will usually have a post-dated check for the full balance, including the fee, or you provide the lender with the authorization to electronically debit the funds from your bank, credit union or prepaid card account. If you do not repay the loan on or before the due date, the lender can cash the check or electronically withdraw money from your account.
There are several things wrong here, but the fact that your mother in law is having long conversations about your debts with the collector that’s calling. This is a violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. Collectors are not allowed to discuss their reason for calling or sharing details about your debt with anyone other than you (or your spouse). Divorce tends to bring out the worst in some and it sounds like your going to be one of them.
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I’ve been receiving phone calls from a person who claims to be an investigator and tells me there are charges pending against me for a payday loan from 2009. He gave me the name of a collection agency (Global) that I called and they told me the same thing I really took out a payday loan in 2009 from this “money and more” online company. The loan was repaid and I even faxed copies of the bank statements showing this back in 2009. They say the copies of these statements are not in my file. And this “INVESTIGATOR” well his phone does not accept incoming calls, and he wants me to give him my address to send me sealed documents! I did not give any of my information as I see it, if he found out my cell phone number, then he can find out my address. This man was very rude, very aggressive and very threatening. He continues to call my phone 4 & 5 times a day. I do not know how to get rid of these people. This man, I do not know his name or who he wors for, he gave me no information, only that there were charges against me and my state “bad check writing laws” would be against me as well, pending criminal charges … ..I which often have internet access … but i get my e-mail on my phone, so if anyone would like to e-mail me with helpful information it would be much appreciated. Thank You
I had some guy call me today i said I’m calling to inform you that I’m filing or processing papers I’ve got for you an I’m supposed to inform you or talk with you before he files it to the king county court I do not have what I should do, I’m not working I have no money I do not have a last year someone tried to suing me for a payday loan that was from 207 or 08 what can they do?
Please complain to your state attorney general and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC.gov). Your complaint will be entered into Consumer Sentinel, a shared database by law enforcement agencies. Be as specific as possible in your complaint.
then the guy wanted to know why i took the advance out in the first place and why i have not paid on it. he said I was going to get charged with check fraud from across state lines since the company is out of state and when they tried to retrieve the money from my account the money was not there.
Have been receiving calls for about a month from John Ryan at the AR Group, leaving VM’s saying they are getting ready to file 2 legal documents against me, and to call back at 888-543-9421 ext 303 about the matter, also leaving a reference number. Today he calls and leaves the same message and says that they are filing the legal documents today and that I need to call back. Repeatedly when I try to call back the message that the “call source number is no longer in service”, including a number of times today. The call originally came from 800-533-9421 which is totally different contact when I call. Last year I mistakenly accepted a online payday loan that started a nightmare in my life for $ 200, and do not know if this is a connected issue. Earlier this year I was getting calls from a woman from TYCOLIFTS who gave documentation to about the transaction, and when pressured to pay, she said she would accept a 3 commitment commitment by providing her a valid card number that could be a prepaid card . I did so and the first payment was deducted, then I lost my job and could no longer make payments. She told me that she would not be able to keep the account from legal action, and did not hear
I got a call yesterday from a company called PDLR. This woman’s name was ms. ingram and she did not have an accent like a lot of the companies sited here. She said she was trying to settle a payday loan that I supposedly did not pay before they starte wage garnishments. She could not tell me who the original loan was with-said they were not a collection agency but that the original company did not send paerwork to me that was returned when I requested proof of the debt. The number they called from was 630-844-5678. Neither the company name or phone number popped up when i googled, but this is clearly a scam. I called back the number and the same person answered, but she did not identify a company. As far as I’m concerned, they can pound salt.
I received a call from Cyrstal from a restricted telephone line that she had papers to serve on my husband in the next day or to call this number 855-212-9406 to find out what it was about. I called and talked with Paul Landon who said it had to do with a payday loan and that if it was not paid, my husband would be served at work. He then went to say the amount was 1,100 but he could wipe it down to 580 if we would pay it right away and he would even let us pay it in 3 payments. I told him I had to talk to my husband and he said not to take as long as he was waiting to have him served and him arrested. Then he gave me his personal number which is 716-462-5680 and the company he works for is Outsource Legal Prep (but I just found this out but doing some internet search – and it seems to be owned by Kevin Walker). I’m glad to have found this out as at first I was scared but now since I know it’s scam I just called them back and told them not to call me back I know it’s a scam and I would turn them in to the proper authorities if they did. Thank you for posting this information.
Nona – There are a few options for trying to stop them but it’s not easy when you’re dealing with a scam. If they were legitimate collectors, and traceable – where they could be held accountable under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, consumers would recourse to sue them. However, with scams, it’s a little more difficult … but there are some options that may help – you can file a complaint with your local law enforcement, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and your state attorney general.
I am confused. Why would a debt collector say that money you paid them was refundable? Perhaps you were applying for a loan? If so, and if this is an advance loan loan scam, the promise refund is worthless. Did you wire money to them via Western Union by chance? If so, then it’s probably gone to someone overseas already.
My mom is going through this right now. These people are called Empire State Arbitration. They gave him the name of a bank-First Federal Bank of Delaware. They would not give her the phone number of the address. We asked for a file number or dovket number and she would not give me any information on the company I supposedly owe to. I called her and asked her to fax me all the papers she had on the file. She said she could not do that I said I have a right to see all the paperwork for a debt I owed. She was very rude and even hung up on me … I’ve talked to a few legitimate collector’s and even when I was rude they were still very polite..As it turns out my mom already gave them her info to take the payments out … I need help asap! There number is 18444828780
I b. I have been receiving the same calls from Jason and Ms. Thomas from the same company in Illinois. (ALSO, SAID THEY WOULD GARNISH WAGES AND REVOKE MY LICENSE) They have now started employing americans to make these calls to make it sound legit. So I advised that I have been recording these calls for the FBI investigation that I am involved in. I am a professional lawyer and debt collector can not call you without verifying that they have the correct person and that would be done via certified mail with a summons and complaint against you. Also, if the collector such as Jason Locke and Ms. Thomas from 877-601-5871 Ext 259 and 877-601-5871 Ext 251 were real debt collectors they would have to provide written proof of the original loan, copies of the e-sign agreement between you and the lender, account numbers, telephone numbers for the lender etc … This guy Jason did not know his own address when I asked him and he could not confirm my full social security number. Also, one tip to remember is legit collectors have to say the following statement before talking with you “This is a try to collect a debt etc.”, so remember that. The unfortunately was scammed out of $ 500.00 a few years ago and I paid the fees and sent fax to them
If it was legit she would have no problem giving the address to the company. She will not divulge this information as she does not want to be sued for illegal collection tactics. Ignore them and move on.
I received a call from Pay day loan recovery in Illinois. They say it’s for a loan from 2010 and now it’s $ 2300. If I do not settle today I will have my salary garnished and my drivers will be suspended. I thought it was legitimate bc they were not rude. However, in my old paperwork, I can not find any notices or letters. I want to pay any debt that I owe but I dont want to be paying something that is not real. Also, my real fear is suspended for drivers! I have to drive to work
“I do not think they’ll be back, because I told them that it’s federal law to send me something written in the mail before trying to collect the debt from me” – Surprisingly, once they know that you know the laws (and better than they do), they typically do back and give up. Thank you for sharing your story, it shows that knowing and understanding your rights can help protect you from being a victim.
The one who called me was American legal services .. I have never been to jail in my life Thank God I called a lawyer first .. Should I know when they were avoiding my request for detailed info.
Protections for servicemembers. There are special protections through the federal Military Lending Act (MLA) for active duty servicemembers and their dependents. These protections include a cap of 36 percent on the Military Annual Percentage Rate (MAPR) as well as other limitations on what lenders can pay for payday and other consumer loans. Contact your local Advocate General’s (JAG) office to learn more about lending restrictions. You can use the JAG Legal Assistance Office locator to find help.
It’s not easy to stop these scammers but you’ll find some ideas in this article http:
Same thing happened to me the same name and number on my phone. The number to get in touch with Ms. Ingram is 1-877- 258- 1188. When asked the name of this company they refused to give information and hung up. Names used are Ms. Barry, Ms. Ingram, and today Ms. Rios. They are threatening me with wage garnishment etc. They refused to give the name of and original debtor. I have no recollection of oweing. Need to know who to call to stop this.
Im glad I read your post. I have been getting calls from people for payday loans that i have had outstanding. they are threatening to take me to court and everything, and i know according to the payday loan laws in illinois they cant do that. My question is this: I had already had two loans out (via front store), and was approved for 5 more online (after which I did not have any of the companies were licensed in illinois. the money to repay at the moment thats when they get rude and nasty with me they keep saying they will put a judgment on my report, etc. 855-216-1354 is one of the numbers i keep getting calls from. my caller id they come up 000 and i wait for them to leave a message I do not pay them anything but i wonder if they really do anything to me the companies according to illinois law should have contacted me to set up I did not want to go back, but now I’m getting these calls, something doesnt seem right
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I have to warn you that even some of the attorneys I know who regularly sue debt collectors who break the law will not touch the cases that involve payday loans. Even if they are successful defending the client, they tell me, they can not collect. This may not be the case with all collectors, but I have to warn you that you can be dealing with very aggressive collection agencies here.
he wanted me to give him a credit card number so they could with a draw 500.00 dollar payments until it was paid off. now can they realy take action to be able to appear in court along with a warranty
ERVIN BANKS: I do not see anything wrong with them. I had some back bills I had to pay off. So it did not take me too long to pay it back – about three months, something like that. They are beautiful people.
So, the payday business model is not like pawn shop, where you surrender your valuable possessions to raise cash. To get a payday loan, you need to have a job and a bank account. According to Pew survey data, some 12 million Americans – roughly 1 in 20 adults – take out a payday loan in a given year. They tend to be relatively young and earn less than $ 40,000; they tend to not have a four-year college degree; and while the most common borrower is a white female, the rate of borrowing is the highest among the minorities.
You are correct that you are required to give you the proof of the debt. Do you have a physical address for them? If so, you can write a letter and send it registered mail asking for written proof of the debt. If you are being taken to court, you will receive a “summary and complaint” by postal mail or delivered in person. It is a formal court document, not an email.
Hi, I’ve been a victim of these payday loans the calls and threathens me that i will be brought up on charges these guys need to get caught they are usually foreingers that call i just rec eived two miore calls from # 818 659-5712 and661 752-5174 i want to report these people how do i go about this so we can catch these thugs i have stressed out over this i need help … sincerely paul giordano ny
bb – Unfortunately, the likelihood of getting your money back after a scam is next to nil, especially with them being prepaid cards. Whatever you do, do not send them any more money and as Gerri said in a previous way, “Consumers should never send a prepaid card to pay a debt collector. Not only is this a method of payment for the scammers who take the money and run, you will have no record of the payment if it was a legitimate debt. ”
While it may not be possible to stop these scams (they are typically coming from overseas and may be out of reach of US law enforcement), US lawmakers have to try to stop them at the source. They need to crack down on the websites where consumers are entering their personal information that is then compromised.
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Ok I got a phone call today for my husband. I know he took out a payday loan 2 years ago and it’s with the people these guys claim they are collecting for. They want my debit card number so that my husband is not “served” and go to court or jail for check fraud. My question here is that they can even go for criminal action for a “fraud check” that was not even technically checked since it was all done online. Also, should I just pay them? They said they are Lincoln or the number is 877-607-5668 I have no problem resolving a legitimate debt but I do not want to get scammed either.
with a group of attorneys called “Horizon Legal Group”. The phone number they gave is 888-257-3157
, blah, blah blah. Some people have been middle east, but some are not. I tried to leave a message to call me back but no answer. I went on the net tonight, and have been enlightened. I have to cancel my checking acct. because I gave them my info. I feel so gullable. Just because I gave them auth. for auto withdrawl. Don, do it, please just deal with the companies you took out the loan with !!!
Recd a call from 877-269-0088 from Miss Rios stating that I had 5000 for a payday loan first of all you could not take that much money and the second of all if it was from 2 yrs ago and when I asked them to send docs They said they did not have I told them I do not pay anything unless I signed it and I have copies of it. They threaten to garnish my wages, they could not understand what they were from. Then just today I call from phone number 877-258-1188 from Miss Berry stating that my payment was not gone thru well duh not i did not have anything and she left me a msg to call her back in 2 days as she was going to garnish my salary fat I worked for the federal govt and they wld love to see this come thru talk about jail time i am lmao on this one already contacted authorities and changed bank accts BEWARE THEY ARE IDIOTS
It can be frustrating and embarrassing when debt collectors call relatives, and, as you suspect, some debt collectors use tactics that are not legal. But, as a consumer, you are not powerless. Here are three Credit.com articles you may find useful, and thanks for alerting others to the kind of treatment you have received.
of my ssn # and threatened to take me to court, but I have been ignoring his calls. Can you tell me if he really did anything. Thanks.
DeYOUNG: Well, in a short sentence that’s very scientific I would start by saying, “Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.” The question comes down to how we identify the water here and how do we identify the baby here. One way is to collect a lot of information, as the CFPB suggests, about the creditworthiness of the borrower. But that brings up production cost of payday loans and will probably put the industry out of business. But I think we can all agree that once someone pays a fee in an aggregate amount equal to the amount that was originally borrowed, that’s pretty clear that there’s a problem there.
I am very concerned you are dealing with a scammer – possibly in both instances. Please read this article about how process servers work and proceed with extreme caution. (And verify the one you are making payments to is legitimate!)
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Today, the same lady called & left another message, said the same crap including this is her last attempt, blah, blah, blah but this time left a different number 1-855-809-6119. Again, ended his message with “you have been notified”.
Paul – I know it’s not easy, but stop stressing. These guys are sitting in some of the country’s most popular people as they can. They can not hurt you. So understand that and do not let them scare you.
I was receiving threatening calls from someone claiming to be from the Attourney General’s office. Stating that because of a past due credit that they were going to have the authorities pick me up at my place of work and have me arrested. They asked to pay them $ 120 of the $ 500 that I owed them in order for them to hold off on calling the authorites. I have got past due loans and they verified my email address and home address and the company i worked for. I thought it might have been for real, they wanted me to go to the walgreens and pick up a prepaid card in order to make the payment to them. I was going to send them the money but after talking to one of the lawyers within the company I worked for they advised me that this was a scam call trying to get money out of me. Especially since no prio documentation was provided and they refused to provide any documents until I made a payment. The numbers they were calling from were 951-878-0689, and 951-708-1208. I looked up the
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