STP management group is i was harassed by, I had to change my cell #, but they were still harassing me at work. I filed a report with the consumer financial protection office and they said they would stop & desist contacting me. They claim they have a good standing with the BBB, but of course when I look them up with such company exists. These scammers are bold and taking advantage of people with scare tactics.
So we are left with at least two questions, I guess. Number one: How well is the one of the payday-loan research we’ve been telling you about today, pro or con? And number two: How do we have any academic research?
I’m glad to hear you are no longer panicking. Debt collectors can not have you hauled off to jail just because you can not pay your bills. What kind of debt is this? Do you have it Has this collection agency sent you anything in writing?
Whatever you want to call it – wage deflation, structural unemployment, the absence of good-paying jobs – is not that a bigger problem? And, if so, what’s to be done about that? Next time on Freakonomics Radio, we will continue this conversation by looking at a strange, controversial proposal to make sure everyone’s got enough money to get by.
I have to warn you that even some of the attorneys I know who regularly sue debt collectors who break the law will not touch the cases that involve payday loans. Even if they are successful defending the client, they tell me, they can not collect. This may not be the case with all collectors, but I have to warn you that you can be dealing with very aggressive collection agencies here.
Saying you’re going to be arrested for fraud because you have not paid your payday loan is a bogus threat. The fact that they have all this information about you does not mean it is a legitimate collection attempt. And the fact that you want to pay with a moneypack is a big red flag. I would suggest you turn the tables on them and report them to the Federal Trade Commission and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (consumerfinance.gov). Next time they call start the conversation by telling them you are going to record the call to deliver to law enforcement – and do so!
DeYOUNG: They do not overdraft the checking account and take out the payday loan because they’ve done the calculus. That overdrafting on four or five checks at their bank is going to cost them more money than taking out the payday loan.
Mind you, no one ever asked me for updated information or my address … their gums just continued to flap about how I was going to be served a crime sum at an address I have not lived at for 8 years.
ERVIN BANKS: I do not see anything wrong with them. I had some back bills I had to pay off. So it did not take me too long to pay it back – about three months, something like that. They are beautiful people.
I have received many of the same calls. I also received a call from the National Check Fraud Center who said they had a warrant for my arrest ready and processed and sent to the sheriffs department in my county. Unfortunately I’m one of the ones who was so scared that I did pay. I had a bankruptcy and the payday loan was unfortunately included. The debt has been discharged. The National Check Fraud Center said on voice mail to consider myself as I would and that this was illegal and could not be counted in a bankruptcy. Anything on the National Check Fraud Center?
There are several things wrong here, but the fact that your mother in law is having long conversations about your debts with the collector that’s calling. This is a violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. Collectors are not allowed to discuss their reason for calling or sharing details about your debt with anyone other than you (or your spouse). Divorce tends to bring out the worst in some and it sounds like your going to be one of them.
I received several calls from a donna mitchell she gave me a phone number to call 877-882-2435 with a case # i call tehm tehy say the are NCR (National Check Resolution) i really do not belive them when they say they are come to my place of work or my home to serve me .. i know it dosen’t happen that way i have talked to my local police officer and he said not to worry about it. But this time they sound so real .. I know i owe the money but the amout they gave me is atrocious. I just missed one payment and now they want about 800.00 when i only borrowed 350 and i’ve been paying 37.50 since may .. the lady (lisa) said i really do not care if you just pay or i just just a I do not know that it’s really good, it’s really good, it’s really good .. so i’m a little concerned i do not want to ignore it but it all sounds so weird during the whole phone call wiht lisa she kept putting me on hold. she said they would file with the clerk of court for fraud by deception .. and will only let me pay by credit card. I told her I wanted them to send me a bill in the mail and she said they told her they tried to contact me by email .. can not send by mail. I asked by mail again and to send in in payment .. I’m not sure to send them money my gut feeling does not send it to them … but my concious i know i owe the money ..
I did take a payday loan years ago but was paid off and no issues and not with the companies listed. The three are just not mine. Went to the bank asked transactions from
This company keeps calling me telling me they have papers to serve on me but first they need to contact me before they can serve them and i call them back and they say it ms solutions and i ask for information and address on them and they say they can not give it to me and they are a law firm but its different people that keep calling and when you call back they want you to verify your ss number and address so they can deliver what they have for you. Thanks Robin
WERTH: So, what did Fusaro do when he set up a randomzed control trial where he gave a group of borrowers a traditional high-interest-rate payday loan and then gave another group of borrowers no interest rates on their loans and then he compared the Two and he found out that both groups were just as likely to roll over their loans again. And we should say, again, the research was financed by CCRF.
Just received a call from 1-888-553-2372 She said she was with ADR firm and said they would have to contact a friend of mine who used to be her contact for a payday loan so they could get her address to serve her with papers for fraudulent checks.
with a case # So I immediately called back and a lady answered as “United” and asked for my case #. I gave it to her and she said I owe for a PDL from Sept 2011 with ACE. I do not remember having a loan with them. I have had PDLs before and thought I’ve forgot about it. I Todd them I’m on maternity leave and have no income. Then she transferred me to her supervisor because she was monitoring the call and wanted to try and work something out with me. He asked if Ihad people I can borrow the money from because if it does not get paid I will go to court and be charged with fraud check. Scared the crap out of me! So he said I can pay $ 150 by Jan 25th and the rest by Feb 22. I asked why I never got anything in the mail. He asked if the address he had was right, it was an address that I moved out of in June 2011. So he said that’s why. He said I had to get the payment plan with a debit card. I was stupid and gave it to him. The last few days I’ve been thinking about it because I just did not remember this loan. Then I remembered that in AZ they have no real payday loans, they were outlawed in 2010. Now they give you a loan off your car registration or title. So if I defaulted then they would have come and taken my car. Also, IF you give them a check it has to be a voided check. So how can I have a bad check if they can not cash it being that it was voided? So … .does it sounds like my situation is also a scam? If so I probably need to cancel my card.
Do you think they are calling from overseas? If they are a legitimate agency then you can report and
said it is called [redacted]. They state I took a short-term loan before 2010 and they are a third party trying to get the back back. When I ask her to send me something and tell her I do not see anything on my credit report she says it’s because they have not filed anything yet it has not impacted my credit yet. I told her she had to send me something in writing and she refused. So I got a little rude with her and started asking questions and she hung up on me. I did a little research and many people had the same experience so I blocked the numbers they gave, called id showed [redacted] and the call back on voicemail was [redacted]. They then started calling my mother and sister. I have made complaints to the FCC, attorney general, the donotcall.gov and BBB. How else can I make these calls stop? It’s frustrating !!!
Do not let one of these companies scare you into making payments if you’re not sure you owe the debt. In most cases, collectors must first take you to court and get a judgment before they can go after your pay or property.
Race Matters: The Concentration of Payday Lenders in North Carolina, by Uriah King, Wei Li, Delvin Davis and Keith Ernst, The Center for Responsible Lending (March, 2005).
Turn the tables on this caller. Tell her you have written written notice of the debt which is your right under federal law. If she refuses to give it to her you will be recording all future calls to turn over the authorities.
I received a calling phone call from number 701-212-1223 stating that I had owed a payday lone in the price of $ 2097.00 and that if i did not care about this that there would be a sherrif at my door to take me to jail and for e to appear in court.
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I was contacted a month ago from a company stating I had 2 pending charges through the state. I called them. It was for a payday loan through CashNet in 2009. They had a check number and my bank account info so I figured it was legit as at the time I took out those types of loans. They also told me they sent me a letter to the address I previously lived at and threatened to issue a warrant for my arrest. Of course it scared the crap out of me, so my husband paid this. I got a confirmation number, but as of yet, no paper work. YEsterday I received another call and voicemail. I checked it today and it was the same thing form a different company. Thankfully I wrote down all the information from the one company I did pay. I called this number and the lady started giving me the exact same thing the other company did. But with a different date the loan was taken out. I said it was for cashnet in the amount of $$$. she agreed. I said I paid this, I have a confirmation number, phone number and name of whom I dealt with. I looked in my husbands check register so now I have the date and company that pulled the money. Her reply was “I will speak to my attorney and if he has any questions he will call you.”
Please do not send them any money. Of them were a legitimate debt collector they would have to send you a written confirmation of the debt.
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the phone, because I had not received any correspondence from the company. He told me it was not their responsibility to chase me down to collect a debt, that it was my responsibility to take care of it myself. As their lawyer, I could pay him and it would all go away. I said no, and he hung up on me, laughing, quite rudely, stating, “Have fun rotting in prison.”
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I did not have any phone calls but my previous room was visited at home by a man named Lewis claiming he had a delivery for me and that he is a server server! She has been to her home several times and she has finally told her to stop her harrassing her as well. He left a fake look business card in which he wrote in his name and tel. # 425-223-8367. I have not called him to verify anything yet. Any suggestions how to handle or proceed with this? Any help is appreciated!
I’ve been calling for two months now that we’re going to sue me on 300 dollar case but was charging me 9000 for checking fraud missing on payments so they are tired and are going to serve me at my job and pick me up on this charge that have been brught before me to have never got a check book before online web site is making these aligation against me
Not having the money to pay a debt is not a crime. It sounds like you’re dealing with scammers. The advice I gave in the articles below to your situation. Start with step # 1 and insist they email your written statement of the debt that is required by federal law. (Do not be intimidated by the fact that they have a lot of information about you – that’s very common with payday loans.)
I got a call from advanced capitol solutions for a defaulted loan i had in 2008 from another company. i googled their number 877-845-5988 and got allot of fraud comments and i cant verify they bought the debt from e corp. I send them an email to send me evidence that my attorney can try to verify. they said they can come after me for check fraud, which fake collectors always do to scare you out of some money. have not given them any acct info and now do you know what they know, anybody know of this company history?
DUBNER: Well, here’s what it looks like, at least, the puzzle, which is that repeat rollovers – which represents a relatively small number of the borrowers and are a problem for those borrowers – but it sounds like though those repeat rollovers are the source of a lot of the lender’s profits. So, if you were to eliminate the big problem from the consumer’s side, would not that remove the profit from the lender’s side, maybe kill the industry?
Please do not respond to an email. Instead, we urge you to report it to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. You should not be threatened at all. And having a Social Security number does not mean that the debt collector is legitimate.
They called my 87-year-old mother and she asked them how they got her phone number, and a woman said that I had put her down as a contact. However, her new phone number is barely a year old and is not the one given at the time of the payday loan.
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