DeYOUNG: We need to do more research and try to find out the best ways to regulate rather than the rules that are being pursued now that would eventually shut down the industry. I do not want to come as a advocate of payday lenders. That’s not my position. My position is I want to make sure the users of payday loans who are using them responsibly and who are made better by them do not lose access to this product.
There is no surefire way to stop them other than to use some kind of call screening service where only calls you approve go through. You can get some ideas from this piece I wrote: http:
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I recently received a call from Joe Banks. The number he was calling from showed as unknown. He left me a message that was not professional and went to call my mom and sister. The number he left for me to call was 877-230-6756 for ACS. I did not provide them any information and ask that my sister and mother do the same. I will not pay money to anyone unless they provide something in writing as proof of the debt is mine.
in 1916 under the supervision of Arthur Ham, the first director of the Russell Sage Foundation’s Department of Remedial Loans. Ham recognized a key truth about small, short-term loans: They are expensive for lenders to make. His model law tried to promote short-term legal lending by capping rates at a high level of level-states determined their own ceilings, typically ranging from 36 to 42 percent per year-to enable lenders to turn a profit. This was very controversial, but many Americans still could not secure loans at that rate; their risk of default was deemed too great. Some of them eventually turned to the mob, which grew strong during the Prohibition.
Rudy – Please do not freak out. This kind of thing happens all the time and what you’re saying happened has all the signs of a scam. I do not want to be taken by a scammer. Read this article: 9 Signs You Are Talking to Debt Collection Scammer
I received a call about a payday loan that I took out and never paid back. This guy was real nasty told me that I need to quit my job cuz they dont pay that much. Told me that if I dont pay thatvi can be charged with fraud asked for debit card number. Thankfully I had ten dollars less than the agreed amount in my checking n I have a block for overdraft fees. After this I called an attorney office and they said it sounds like a scam. Thing was that I owe a payday loan place and this guy had my name and social security number so I thought it was legit. I have since ordered a new debit card and i’ll talk to my bank about changing my checking acount number or something. I dont want these guys to get into my bank account number. He theartened to garnish my salary told me that if I go to court I could pay up to $ 2000 instead of the small amount that I really owe. Said he can come up to my work and serve me with a poster. I told him that I could only pay $ 50 now and then $ 50 a week and he said he needs 150 now and 100 a week. I do not see how anyone can deny a payment that makes me feel even more scam. U can pay hospital bills at a day and they’re not doing so why this would be any different. I do not pay anything until I get a short date and then I will go to court then I will pay. Until then oh Well I just got a job after being out of work for 4 months I have a lot of important things to worry about
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I have had three scams come to me. This has got to stop. They call my job and harass my boss and other people. How do they get your job phone number? ACS just scam me two weeks ago. Look out. Now I have a new one. Here is the phone number 760-269-3830. You know they have another country. You do not understand them. They just threaten you. Someone stop these jerks.
You can do all of us should do – check your credit reports and scores regularly. Given the number of data people are required to give Social Security numbers, we are all at some risk. We wrote about somewhat similar situation here: Help! Someone Is Using My Social Security Number
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I received a call from Jonathan Andrews of Adams, Peterson and Irving stating I have a file placed with them that needs immediate attention. The caller said they would send the file to my county for prosecution. 844-580-7842 was the number on my caller ID … who has this experience? What was the result.
Last night, I received a call from a woman and she just told me her name was “Miss Riely.” She said that a company has filed a claim against my social security because I had a outstanding balance on a PDL. She said that if I did not pay the amount of cash or a settlement amount I would receive a court order Wage Garnishment. First of all, I have no comfirmed to receive PDL and other than providing basic info to see if I qualify I never confirmed nor received a PDL from ANY company. I just do not understand how that can do this ?? So here I have a deadline to go and get money to send to the company’s debt collection and not get a Wage Garnishment.
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going to be sent to court for “fraud” and continued to talk and talk and talk. But as I listened to her, I caught her in many lies. And on top of that she did not sound professional at all and kept repeating my name over and over trying to break me down. Then I asked to talk to the supervisor and she said, “I’m so scam” and I said, “I heard her whispering to someone else and then she came back on the phone and I told you that they are not a scam and I replied with “I can talk to your supervisor” and then she put me on “Hold” then I heard the phone being held up to a speaker so I could hear “elevator” music while I was being “transferred” to the supervisor. She finally transferred me to this guy saying that I could pay her with a gift card instead. I just said “I’ll think about if I want to pay you scam artists or not” then I hung up. Since then, I’ve gotten nothing.
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CHRISTOPHER WERTH: Right. Well, it’s a non-profit watchdog, relatively new organization. Its mission is to expose corporate and political misconduct, primarily by using open-record applications, such as the Freedom of Information Act or FOIA applications, to produce evidence.
Im glad you posted this, i just lost $ 150 to this [redacted]. So today I had a similar call about another payday loan i supposedly had taken out, but didnt. I will be blocking my debit card now, thank you for posting.
MANN: If your first is that none of the people using this product would do it if they really understood what was going on – well, that just does not seem to
The explanation for this is not simple, and a variety of economic jargon floats around the issue. But it’s all started with this: The typical payday-consumer loan is too desperate, too unsophisticated, or too exhausted from being treated with disrespect by traditional lenders to engage in shopping. So demand is what economists call price tax. As Clarence Hodson, who published a book in 1919 about the business of small loans, put it, “It is not possible for bargain to benefit with cupidity.” In its last financial year, Advance America, one of the country’s largest payday lenders, wrote, “We believe that the main competitive factor is customer service, rental, convenience, speed, and confidentiality.” You will notice it did not mention the price.
Creditors are required to provide written verification of a debt within five days of contacting you. They also do not make threats they do not intend to keep – like filing charges. You can find more about your debt collection here:
The call was about a cash advance loan that I received over the computer in 2007. They said I owe $ 1500 and I had to give them at least $ 25 before I got off the phone with them or I would be arrested and have to spend $ 5000 to get out of jail, have to pay short money and get put on probation.
The only insight we can offer at this point is that it’s very likely it’s a scam. If it was a legitimate collector, they would be violating many laws under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. Thankfully, you did the right thing and did not fall for it.
There is a long and often twisted history of industries co-opting scientists and other academic researchers to produce findings that make their industries look safe or more reliable or otherwise better than they really are. Whenever we talk about academic research on this show – which is pretty much every week – we try to show the provenance of that research and establish how legitimate it is. The best first step in figuring that out is to ask what kind of incentives are at play. But that is only one step.
If they call back, follow the instructions outlined in this article or the resource provided above. If the collector will not comply with your requests, then it may be a scam. It’s hard to say until you talk to them to see if the debt is legitimate. Whatever you do, do not let them intimidate you in paying without validating the debt. As a result of the comment on this thread, they use scare tactics and prey on consumers not knowing their rights and the laws when it comes to debt collections.
DUBNER: OK, so this is interesting that a watchdog group that will not reveal its funding is going after an industry to try to influence academics that’s funding. So should we assume that CFA, the watchdog, has some kind of horse in the payday race? Do we just not know?
I just got a call from a very similar number- 855-216-1354. Having worked at a telephone company, it’s a good chance these numbers belong to the same company (only the last two digits are different). But, the company that called me was the Office of Progressive (??) saying my name was on some legal documents in his office. Tried calling back and the message kept looping.
There is no westwood mediation. If they are talking with a high accent they are Indian scammers. It’s the latest foreign scam being hoisted on Americans, gullible ones that it. If you have applied or attempted to apply for a payday loan, they will call you at some point. Be ready when they call. They are looking for some one gullible to easily victimize. You can not reason with them and anyway they are conducting a scam so deal with it properly – blowing a loud air air horn into the phone. They get the message with that loud and clear that you are not to be messed with and they usually move on.
Thanks for sharing, Brooke. It always amazes us with some of the threats and claims these guys make: “Somebody would be here Friday at 11:00 a.m. to take me to California for my court on Monday at 11:00 pm “So, they’ll pick you up, drive or fly you to California for court, and put you up in a hotel for two nights while you wait for your short date on Monday? I’m almost speechless.
Had the same call as Jeannie. I originally got a call from MS. Gilmore and now MS Berry from 877-258-1188 stating that my payment did not go through and that they would be proceeding on garnishment. I feel this is a scam. The call from MS Berry came on on Fri afternoon 4-1 at 4:45 AM. PDLR is the name of the company they claim. I did call the number back this morning and the person who answered the phone call me for my phone numbmer and then told me that MS Gilmore and MS Berry do not come in before noon. She told me I wouold have to call back then. Do not most legit collections of agencies that give you a number and name to call at least have voice mail. I feel this is a SCAM and I hope it stops soon. Any ideas I can do in the future to stop these people? Please advise if you do
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