DeYOUNG: Right now, there are very little information about rollovers, the reasons for rollovers, and the effects of rollovers. And without academic research, the rule is going to be based on who shouts the loudest. And that’s a bad way to write law or regulation. That’s what I really worry about. If I could advocate a solution to this, it would be: identify the number of rollovers at which it has been revealed that the borrower is in trouble and is being irresponsible and this is the wrong product for them. At that point the payday lender does not flip the borrower into another loan, does not encourage the borrower to find another payday lender. At that point the lender’s main is then switched into a different product, a long term loan where he or she pays it a bit bit every month.
I just had my first run with one of these “companies.” I immediately knew that it was gibberish but decided to play along. They were immediately taken by the fact I have a British accent but continue their charade. I initially spoke with a woman and the number was 0000. Typically I do not pick up these strange numbers as I assume it’s some sort of scam but I had a itch. She picked up said something and immediately handed the phone over to another counterpart. He of course made claims to a loan I took out in 2008, I believe. Along with fraud check and two other false claims. I immediately said that I was only 16 than though he continued the pressure. Statements of we sent you multiple EMAILS, you’ll receive a summon, etc. After he continued to talk about me I said in a very naive way “He said in his absurdly thick accent” of course. “I than yelled” you such a person I I was a student of law and the likeliness of convincing me of any truth was impossible. “He continued to press me and I slyly said a remark in Spanish than hung up. The fact that I was 16 in said year and British alone should have made him end the call, very foolish tactic. They called me BACK RIGHT AFTER AS WELL. I can also complain of the heavy background noise, completely spineless people praying on Americans suffering through enough of a crisis as is. If I receive another call I will take some of these actions to try and help in ceasing this callous behavior.
Ann, I just got a call last week from the same phone number. A “Juan Hernandez” has called me saying I owed on a payday loan; that it was taken out in 2008 and when the company tried to collect in 2009, there were insufficient funds. They are threatening to suspend my driver’s license unless I pay them $ 300 within 48 hours – after that, it becomes $ 1400. I was so upset, I went to the bank and got all my bank statements from December 2008 to present. Nothing returned for insufficient funds. Mr. Hernandez just called me at work today and I’m about to call him back. What a scam – happy you did not fall for it!
I’m sorry to hear you pay this debt! It sounds like they are the ones acting illegally. Debts included in bankruptcy are protected by the automatic stay, and once the debt is discharged to a creditor can not try to collect it.
The fact that they have your information means absolutely nothing. That information is often bought and sold. Sounds like it is very likely a scam. Again, insist on written confirmation (by mail) as required by law. If they do not send it then you have confirmed what you’re dealing with.
They are not calling
“I do not think they’ll be back, because I told them that it’s federal law to send me something written in the mail before trying to collect the debt from me” – Surprisingly, once they know that you know the laws (and better than they do), they typically do back and give up. Thank you for sharing your story, it shows that knowing and understanding your rights can help protect you from being a victim.
I was called yesterday and the call said that my payday loan was in default. If I did not pay the amount they would send me to court. Can i go to jail !? They kept using the term “financial fraud” which freaked me out! I did not pay the amount yesterday so they said I would get served today. What’s going to happen? Can I get I jail for this !?
I did not give her my new address. I know the debt is not mine and sound bogus. As my bank representative pointed out it, if the debt was real I would have noticed either the money being withdrawn or would have seen a bunch overdrawn transactions. The Account was active until last week when I closed it. So he said the only way they do not get paid is if you withdraw all your money or you close the account the loan is linked to. So that’s what’s setting off some red flags that this may be scam.
Call went to my MIL’s house. Phone number was 877-334-5288. Said they needed me to call before 5 p.m. I called them, they started the whole laughter about I had an old payday loan and was going to be charged with frud, malicious intent, etc. I stopped the guy and asked for his company name and address and he hung up on me. LOL Think I’m going to call back and try again for the hell of it.
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Today I came in from a stressful day, phone rings and it’s some stupid chick telling me I was going to be served and did not call this number at ADR – 877-801-8348. I asked her what was she talking about. She said, “I can not tell you the records are sealed!” She said, “If you call this number that will prevent you from a lot of trouble!” I said “No thanks, I would rather know what the trouble is , serve me! “I live in a remote part of the country – PO Box only – I also knew I had not been responsible for anything illegal. Have been a grown up now for several years and knew -my life was clean! I told her if she called me back that I was going to turn her into the AG’s Office and hung up. A few minutes later my mom called some girl was looking for me and I needed to call that number. My mom is 83 and we just went through the lost, my dad and my brother-in-law. None of us need this at anytime in our lives. I WILL turn them into the authorities if they call me back. I hope everybody else will do the same. I told my mom not to even think about talking to them or anyone else who can not identify themselves or their company. It’s a shame such evil lives in our world … find a job, do something honest for a change. We have enough crap going on without these scumsuckers bothering us or moreso our parents! BTY the girls name was CORY.
Reg – This is a common tactic that is used to scare you into pay without questioning the validity of the debt. There are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
“My French identity is reinforced by the very large number of people who openly declare, often with violence, their hostility to French values and culture,” he said. “I live in a strange place. There are so much guilt and so much worry. “We were sitting at a table in his apartment near the Luxembourg Gardens. I had come to discuss with him the precarious future of French Jewry, but as the hunt for the Charlie Hebdo killers seemed to be reaching its conclusion, we had been fixed on the television.
They called my 87-year-old mother and she asked them how they got her phone number, and a woman said that I had put her down as a contact. However, her new phone number is barely a year old and is not the one given at the time of the payday loan.
I worked. I got all the information from the lady (who at the point was very nice and helpful). I then contacted my bank and requested bank statements for August and had no deposit from any other than my employer in my account. My bank told me it was a scam and not to worry about it. A couple of days later they called back for the money to avoid legal action. I told them I had bank statements
This has all the classic signs of a payday loan scam. I would encourage you to report this firm to the authorities – FTC, CFPB, and tell them next time they call you call their call to report them to law enforcement.
her company would then move forward in garnishing my salary. If I accepted the settlement offer they would contact American Cash Advance and I would receive a paid in full letter from them. I have not received any such documentation. When I called Ms. Gilbert today to let her know I did not receive the pay in full letter from the original creditor she told me that there was nothing she could do – she did her job and that’s all she had to do and was not interested in helping me. I contacted her supervisor, Ms. Martinez (ext.260) and she told me she would look in the matter for me and return my call. I paid the amount that I was offered in the settlement because I did not want my employer to be contacted – even though I suspected this was a scam.
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I had something similiar happen to me today. They called my uncle cell phone and left him a message. They guy said his name was London Dupree from a check check investigation unit and said a case number. (334) 578-0706. I called them back and when I started asking for what was from he said that he needed to give me to a supervisor. The woman I was very rude and her name was Jennifer Wright. She said I had a payday loan from 2008 that was online and it was defaulted because my bank account did not cover it. She said that if I do not make a payment of $ 1904.72 that I would be up for 4 felony’s and that I would be arrested in 48 hours. I told the woman that I was never notified of this and that I need her to send me paperwork stating this. She said unfortunatly she could not do this because the paperwork is to be used against me and that I can only see it when it is presented to court. I told her I did not have the money. Help !!! Is this a scam …
Hello I hope someone can help me please. I received A call from a guy saying he’s from Empire Mediation & Arbitration Service LLC. That they are taking me to court for defaulting on a payday loan with check n go. That I’m going to face a judge and there’s asking 2815 but if I pay today they’re willing to settle for 412.50. Originally my loan was 255.00. witch I got in 2008. I told them to send me a validation debut letter he said I can email you a settlement letter that they supposedly sent me a while ago. They had my old address But I never got anything because my mom lives there. So there is a saying that I’m going to get served with court papers and I have to face a judge also they want 2,815.00 for fees. Does this sound right please help. I called check n go they said they sold my case in 2009 and they have nothing to do with my case no more and that they are not suing me But they do not know who else has my case since the company they sell it too went out of business. Please help I must pay the 412.50. I do not work or have the money sine I take acre of my daughter who had cancer. Thank you
Do not consider paying. You could consider blocking the number. But ask for a prepaid debit card is a sign of a scammer. Please read this post about that: The One Way You Should Never Pay Debt Collector
DeYOUNG: We need to do more research and try to find out the best ways to regulate rather than the rules that are being pursued now that would eventually shut down the industry. I do not want to come as a advocate of payday lenders. That’s not my position. My position is I want to make sure the users of payday loans who are using them responsibly and who are made better by them do not lose access to this product.
No need to panic. Debt collectors do not pick people up at home or work because they can not pay their bills. Ask them to send you a written notice of the debt that is required under federal law. (By mail, not email.) If they say they can not, then you’re dealing with a scammer. If so, then read my article 7 Ways to Stop Overseas Debt Collection Scam Calls and turn the tables on them!
I have received a call from 2816748738 he sounds a little convincing but call me at 7 a.m. was alittle weird and I tried googling their company name and something else came up has anyone received a call from this number and what should I do?
i get harrassed from this lady name judy bowling stating that i owe over 10,000 to this payday one loan.i never made a loan.i have never filled out a application or i never did any business with any loan.its scary that they have my social security number, my drivers license and all my private info.what can I do?
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I was just on creditkarma last night and woke up to a voicemail from someone telling me to call them back or it would result in a warrant for my arrest. They told me I had 1400 and they would settle for 700 they had my personal info including ss #. They said I had till 1pm this same day to pay. I called the courts in Illinois and they did not know anything about it. I called the company back and they were aggressive and yelled saying they were submitting it early now do not call us ever again. Now you will get arrested by cook county Illinois but I’m a Wisconsin resident.
You can request a written verification of the debt if they call again to help determine whether you are dealing with a debt collector or a scammer. You can also contact your state attorney general and monitor your credit reports for signs of identity theft.
As for the other instance, I do not know whether you were scammed or not, but you can certainly do some research to find out whether the collection agency you paid was legitimate. In some states, they must be registered and
Just received a call from 267-350-8751 claiming I owed money from a loan in 2011 … .she said they would take all my property, garnish my salary, and send me to jail … for an alleged $ 300 loan? I said some not nice things, and she hung up.
Crystal – Old payday loan collection effort like this is very often scams. So you should proceed very cautiously and assume it is a scam unless they can really prove otherwise. Ask them to send you a written notice of the debt by snail mail, not email. (Email is too easy to be fake) it’s a good idea to get it out of the world.
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