serve me papers. She lives in Chicago and I live in southern Illinois. I called to see what was going on just to find out it’s a bill I’ve already paid off. The person on the phone told me that my account was just sold to them and they hired a locator to find me to serve me papers. They did not want to serve me at work. I told her it was paid off in July and she said I had to get a “Pay in Full” letter from the collector and they would drop it. I called Asset Management and they are sending me a letter. Asset gave me the corporate number for The Cash Store, I called and was told it was fraud and to stop all contact with this company. I’m still going to send in my “pay in full” letter but if I get anything from BOR again I’m going to go after them for violations of the law. This is ridiculous. I keep good records of all my payments and debts (I’ve had many over the years), I know a lot of people do not. They would have just paid them.
DUBNER: Hey Christopher. So, as I understand it, much of what you’ve learned about CCRF’s involvement in the payday research comes from a watchdog group called the Campaign for Accountability, or CFA? So, first off, tell us a bit more about them, and what their incentives may be.
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Later on, the payday lenders gave Mann the data that showed how long it really took those exact customers to pay off their loans. About 60 percent of them paid off the loan within 14 days of the date they were predicted.
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I did not give her my new address. I know the debt is not mine and sound bogus. As my bank representative pointed out it, if the debt was real I would have noticed either the money being withdrawn or would have seen a bunch overdrawn transactions. The Account was active until last week when I closed it. So he said the only way they do not get paid is if you withdraw all your money or you close the account the loan is linked to. So that’s what’s setting off some red flags that this may be scam.
better thanks for educating me on this scam.
I did not have any phone calls but my previous room was visited at home by a man named Lewis claiming he had a delivery for me and that he is a server server! She has been to her home several times and she has finally told her to stop her harrassing her as well. He left a fake look business card in which he wrote in his name and tel. # 425-223-8367. I have not called him to verify anything yet. Any suggestions how to handle or proceed with this? Any help is appreciated!
First, Mann wanted to gauge borrowers’ expectations – how long they thought it would take them to pay back a payday loan. So he created a survey that was given out to borrowers in a few dozen payday loan shops across five states.
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The explanation for this is not simple, and a variety of economic jargon floats around the issue. But it’s all started with this: The typical payday-consumer loan is too desperate, too unsophisticated, or too exhausted from being treated with disrespect by traditional lenders to engage in shopping. So demand is what economists call price tax. As Clarence Hodson, who published a book in 1919 about the business of small loans, put it, “It is not possible for bargain to benefit with cupidity.” In its last financial year, Advance America, one of the country’s largest payday lenders, wrote, “We believe that the main competitive factor is customer service, rental, convenience, speed, and confidentiality.” You will notice it did not mention the price.
There is no westwood mediation. If they are talking with a high accent they are Indian scammers. It’s the latest foreign scam being hoisted on Americans, gullible ones that it. If you have applied or attempted to apply for a payday loan, they will call you at some point. Be ready when they call. They are looking for some one gullible to easily victimize. You can not reason with them and anyway they are conducting a scam so deal with it properly – blowing a loud air air horn into the phone. They get the message with that loud and clear that you are not to be messed with and they usually move on.
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I just had my first run with one of these “companies.” I immediately knew that it was gibberish but decided to play along. They were immediately taken by the fact I have a British accent but continue their charade. I initially spoke with a woman and the number was 0000. Typically I do not pick up these strange numbers as I assume it’s some sort of scam but I had a itch. She picked up said something and immediately handed the phone over to another counterpart. He of course made claims to a loan I took out in 2008, I believe. Along with fraud check and two other false claims. I immediately said that I was only 16 than though he continued the pressure. Statements of we sent you multiple EMAILS, you’ll receive a summon, etc. After he continued to talk about me I said in a very naive way “He said in his absurdly thick accent” of course. “I than yelled” you such a person I I was a student of law and the likeliness of convincing me of any truth was impossible. “He continued to press me and I slyly said a remark in Spanish than hung up. The fact that I was 16 in said year and British alone should have made him end the call, very foolish tactic. They called me BACK RIGHT AFTER AS WELL. I can also complain of the heavy background noise, completely spineless people praying on Americans suffering through enough of a crisis as is. If I receive another call I will take some of these actions to try and help in ceasing this callous behavior.
It’s frightening, to be sure, but scammers use that fear to get people to pay money they do not really owe. Before you pay anything, make sure you owe it, and that they own the debt. (They are required by law to send you a “validation of the debt” by postal mail.) Please do not agree to pay via a pre-card debit card. More about that here: The Way You Should Never Pay a Debt Collector.
DeYOUNG: They do not overdraft the checking account and take out the payday loan because they’ve done the calculus. That overdrafting on four or five checks at their bank is going to cost them more money than taking out the payday loan.
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consumers, is going too far. Under the plan it is now considering, lenders would have to make sure that borrowers can repay their loans and cover other living expenses without extensive defaults or reborrowing. These actions would really seem to curtail the possibility of people falling into debt traps with payday lenders. But the industry argues that the rules would be put out of business. And while a self-serving howl of pain is precisely what you would expect from any industry under government fire, this appears, based on the business model, to be true-not only would the regulations eliminate the very loans from which the industry makes its money, but they would also introduce significant new underwriting costs on every loan.
DUBNER: Obviously the history of lending is long and often, at least in my reading, tied to religion. There is a prohibition against it in Deuteronomy and elsewhere in the Old Testament. It’s in the New Testament. In Shakespeare, the Merchant of Venice was not the hero. So, do you think that the general view of this kind of lending is colored by an emotional or moral argument too much at the expense of an economic and practical argument?
That said, make sure you keep track of who you talked with, when, what they said etc. Ask them to send you written verification of the debt. If they appear to be breaking the law, do not hesitate to call them out on it. Read: 11 Ways Debt Collectors May Be Breaking The Law. You may report to the FTC, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, the Better Business Bureau, and your state attorney general office and send the collection agency a copy of your complaint. (If you can get their address.)
We had never heard of this happening until we got a call today from 410-843-2822. They had left a message with my fiance and when I returned the calll they first said “hello”, which struck me as strange, since this was supposedly a law office. When I asked for the name of the company he kept trying to verify info. When Chad (my fiance) got on the phone they started telling him that he should answer q’s carefully as they could be used against him in court. They said that the case would be ‘downloaded’ with the courts – what kind of lawyer says that? We had applied for several loans, and had only accepted one – what we were paying back. The amount they said we owed we had never been quoted. The other strange thing is that although they both had very strong indian accents, they used very unlikely names – the supervisor said his name was Jack O’Connor. ?? ?? DO NOT FALL FOR THIS !!!! We told them to send us something in the mail and not to call again.
At no point during this aggressive voice mail did he identify his company or any affiliation to another company
has been slammed with an unexpected bill and no cash on hand to cover it. If you ignore the expense, things may only get worse. But your next paycheck is still a long way away.
I would recommend you report this to the CFPB and the FTC. Give them as much information as you have about the caller. Next time they call, tell them at the outset you will be recording the call to turn over to law enforcement. Hopefully then they will realize they’re not going to get anything from you and move on.
I have been receiving calls from what sounds like the same group of folks. Starting last week I had a message from “Justin Jones” stating that I had to contact him immediately or have my attorney contact him that I would be sorry. If he did not hear from me that I would face some serious legal actions. He also said that they would come to my workplace or home and I will be the only responsible person for further legal consequences and that I should call him bsck as soon as possible before it too late. Thank you and have a blessed day, goodbye. It was very broken Indian dialect. I returned the call and spoke to Derek Anderson. Apparently Justin Jones is one of his “officers.” I was told that They would be willing to settle for $ 998 in place of the $ 1795.00 they said I owed them through Advance Payday Loan. I have never taken a payday loan. I had to give him a debit card or send a payment via Western Union right away or they would have the sheriff come to me on the following three charges. 1 breach of federal banking laws 2 Collateral check fraud, and 3 Theft by deception. I asked for a physical address so that I could send the funds via overnight delivery or some other traceable method. He did not want to give me a physical address but after much questioning from me he gave me an address of 633 Marimbo Street New York, NY 10023 But that they would not accept mail payments, only Western Union (he forgot about the debit and credit card at this point)
You can report to your state attorney general office, and you can submit a complaint to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. However, the people you are dealing with may be out of the country or may have a “business” that often changes names. You are wise to ask for validation of the debt. A legitimate collector would have provided it. Keep the evidence that the loan was repaid and try not to worry. We are written about what to do when you receive a call before. Perhaps it will be useful to you.
I received a recorded call at work that said I had written a bad check and would be sent court papers at home or at work that day. The message then left 1888-786-0630 or 1888-390-5129 to call to try to settle or plan a payment plan. I got really scared and called the number. The lady said she was from Johnson York LLC and that they are middle man to recover past due payday loans. I do not think I owe this debt, but I was so shaken that I paid them $ 50, and set up a payment plan of $ 200 a month to pay a total of $ 960.00. She sent me an email receipt but it does not look legitimate to me. Their logo is weird, there is no address, and no website. She said it’s a loan with quick cash. I tried to google quick cash and nothing comes up. I do not want to keep them if this is a scam, and I guess the worst that could happen is to be served or have my check garnished? I just do not like the fact that they are calling my work place. Should I call them back and ask them for their address, business license and for the original paperwork for the debt? I’m not sure if this is a real collection agency. Please help!
with a group of attorneys called “Horizon Legal Group”. The phone number they gave is 888-257-3157
I was contacted by these people
the past several days, some entity claiming they have papers to serve have been blowing up relative relatives. Trying to acertain my whereabouts. The days that I have not worked. No one has been to my doorstep to do, the email i recieved is at best enough to leave skepticism abound, considering the sentence and word structure and does not jive as being official. If you want to see it reply back
I would need that same number when I was in jail..I told her it was BS and I would not discuss further without proof in writing. I have paid off EVERY loan that I ever took out..none defaulted … and I kept the papers stating the fact!
Does a researcher who’s out to make a splash with some sexy finding necessarily work with more bias than a researcher who’s working out of pure intellectual curiosity? I do not think that’s necessarily so. Like life itself, academic research is a case-by-case scenario.
and would gladly accept any papers that they had for me. They immediately got very defensive and rude, I said that I checked my credit regularly and the only loan that I had been for a car and my school loan, They told me that payday loans do not show up on your credit report. I got it out and hung up, only for them to get a hold of my sister and tell her that they were looking for me. They called back a few more time and I ignored the call.
Next time they call them that you have told them to the authorities and that you would like to record the conversation. That’s very well stop them. If not, talk with your phone company to see if you can set up some kind of call block or call screening so they can not get through.
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I thought it was his first name that he was a process server and that ii was being prosecuted for fraud on a payday loan this person also called my family members and told them the same thing she said she was calling from ACS litigation i called and gave the I did not know what to do, but I did not have to say that they would like to have me. They also said when they tried to get paid the bank account was close and they said this was back in 2007 the number they used is 866-574-8858 they also said they would prosecute does anyone anything or can help me
This has all the hallmarks of the payday loan collection scam that’s happening all over the country. I am quite confident you will not be served with any kind of papers. Even if they could sue you, they could not suspend your license! (As you say, what is the license?)
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of course, I got VERY upset! The thought of being locked up from my husband and our kids scared the hot piss outta me! So I went ahead and gave them my pre-paid debit card info and told them that we would try to pay when our money came in and then we wanted to know when we filed. then he put me on to call their client and when he returned to the phone he said we need $ 25 on 2
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I’ve never heard of Money More or Money, but received a letter (very unprofessional actually signed in ink) by some small time debt collector claiming I pay or settlement (Payback & Associates, Henderson. places appear to be in NV).
This money, still no amount was disclosed, he just wanted my attorneys name because I had felony criminal charges against a very serious matter. Again I asked for it in writing and he got very hateful, asked me to hang on while he got his supervisor and the phone got disconnected. I called the number right back and it went to a voice message, again with no greeting, just leave your name and number. I thought it was all done, I received another call Nov 30 at my workplace, this time from Jack Thomas (again very heavy Indian accent) and he is supposidly with Kevin Peterson Law Agency in New York only the phone number was 516-847-4310 which is supposidly out of New York. I contacted my local police department at this time, gave them all 3 of these different phone numbers and they tried to call them but only to receive the “no-greeting” voice mail. So today, Dec 2 I get a call from Kevin Peterson, Attorney at Law out of San Francisco, Ca from 530-344-4624 Tell me he will have the local sheriff come to my place of work and serve me with papers, again Kevin has very broken english and very heavy Indian accent. The accusations they are making are awful, does anyone know what can be done. I am sick to death with this
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