I have to warn you that even some of the attorneys I know who regularly sue debt collectors who break the law will not touch the cases that involve payday loans. Even if they are successful defending the client, they tell me, they can not collect. This may not be the case with all collectors, but I have to warn you that you can be dealing with very aggressive collection agencies here.
I googled both numbers but nothing comes up, not even as fraudulent number, so they may be newer numbers. That’s why I wanted to post this in case someone else googles those numbers. She did not disclose any specific information about the charges, did not say it was a debt collection or anything. Did not state the company she works for or the name of the “firm” I’m supposed to call.
But if the only explanation for high rates were that lenders can, so they do, you would expect to see an industry awash in profits. It is not, especially today. Ernst & Young released a study, commissioned by the Financial Service Centers of America, to find that the ‘average profit margin before tax and interest was less than 10 percent. (For the sake of comparison, over the past five quarters, the consumer-financial-services industry has averaged a pre-profit profit rate of more than 30 percent, according to CSIMarket, a provider of financial information.) A perusal of those financial statements that are public confirms a simple fact: As payday lending exploded, the economics of the business worsened-and are today no better than middling. The Community Financial Services Association argues that at 36 percent rate cap, the one in place for members of the military, is a death knell because payday lenders can not make money at that rate, and this seems to be correct. In states that their rates are at 36% per year or lower, the payday lenders vanish. In New York, which caps payday
I’ve been contacted by 3 different companies. First one was Goodman and Stern, who was Kauffman and Associates, and as of today was contacted by Lohchner Gates and Associates. All of them threaten jail time. After reading this article, I was able to receive the money from goodman and stern through my bank. I just wish I had found this before
Tiffany – Phone numbers can be easily faked. And “a little convincing” is not good enough. What you need to know is whether they are a legitimate collection agency and you actually owe the debt. The first step is always to ask them to MAIL you information about the debt. That’s required by law. If they do not, then refuse to talk with them until they do. Do not accept email or anything less.
I made the stupid mistake, and because I was unemployed, but go back to work. I took out loans but started a new job, so I was not worried about paying them back. Well I lost my job and was unable. I’m looking for work, but I’m now getting calls from people other than I borrowed from. (capitol solutions) They are a scam from what I read. They threaten to have my paperwork sent to the court house, come to my house
The laws in your state may permit, regulate, or prohibit these loans. Some states do not have payday lending because these are not allowed by the state’s law or because the payday lenders have not decided to do business at the interest rate and fees allowed in those states. In states that do not allow or pay for payday loan, you may be able to obtain more information from your state regulator or state attorney general.
I spoke with a lady named Savanna from the “Division of Processing”, who told me that I had On-Line Pay-Day Loan through Kenwood Services from 2010 that was unpaid and that it was determined that I did it with the intent to commit fraud money. The amount was for $ 420.00, but with fees added they were $ 1820.00 and additional court fees of $ 2500.00 would be added. When I began to ask questions (I thought that the account they claimed I put in the application was closed in 2008, and the address that was for me was 8 years old), she started to get angry with me. All I was doing was trying to get information about the original debt, which she could not give me. She also told me that I was going to be served in a criminal summary and prosecuted for Financial Fraud. When I started explaining to her the law about debt collection, the statute of limitation for legal action on such a debt, and that threatened me with crime action was indeed, illegal, she first told me “do not tell me how to do my job … “. Eventually, she hung up.
The one who called me was American legal services .. I have never been to jail in my life Thank God I called a lawyer first .. Should I know when they were avoiding my request for detailed info.
WINCY COLLINS: I advise everyone, “Do not even mess with those people. They are rip-offs “I would not go back again. I do not even like to walk across the street past it. That’s just how pissed I was, and so hurt.
It sounds like if you’re talking to a scammer. (See 9 Signs You Are Talking to Debt Collection Scammer.) Real collectors are not allowed to make such threats (and do you really think the government insists on the payment made by a certain issuer and a certain drugstore chain). The caller is trying to get you in the way that makes your money unrecoverable once you realize it’s a scam. (See The One Way You Should Never Pay Debt Collector.)
, unless you have to show up and prove it.
Well today I got a new phone call from a firm firm stating that I was going to be charged with theft by deception of a financial institution if I did not pay, I said I was waiting on the papers to be served to me and I would be happy to address this matter in court. The lady
I got a call today from a GA number, 404-996-1953, I was told that an arrest warrant was going to be out at at 5 pm today If I did not make a payment of 300.00 for a loan I did not receive , but bc I applied and cancelled and changed my bank acct information I was going to be held for check fraud, I explained that I never received the loan and she explained that I did not read the fine print that said that by applying for this loan I agreed to pay
I am very concerned you are dealing with a scammer – possibly in both instances. Please read this article about how process servers work and proceed with extreme caution. (And verify the one you are making payments to is legitimate!)
I’ve been getting these calls. They are also calling my job that I did not have at the time of this alleged loan. I do not want this to affect my job. They’ve called back to back and would not say who they are with and would not agree to send me a letter, saying they have sent several email. There is a call coming through right now while I’m writing this from 1243521256 and yes that’s all of the numbers … eh caller fraud ID as well. What is the name of Vaness? and gave a call back from 650-835 – ???? number. Omg! I am about to file a police report and open a FTC Case in my state.
Counselors and Lawyers with Nationwide business operations. They called me multiple times alleging that my mother owed a $ 2,000 debt for writing bad checks. They said that the party wanted to prosecute and provided a fake address and social security number that was supposedly my mother’s. They did not provide any website, no bar number and
I was contacted a month ago from a company stating I had 2 pending charges through the state. I called them. It was for a payday loan through CashNet in 2009. They had a check number and my bank account info so I figured it was legit as at the time I took out those types of loans. They also told me they sent me a letter to the address I previously lived at and threatened to issue a warrant for my arrest. Of course it scared the crap out of me, so my husband paid this. I got a confirmation number, but as of yet, no paper work. YEsterday I received another call and voicemail. I checked it today and it was the same thing form a different company. Thankfully I wrote down all the information from the one company I did pay. I called this number and the lady started giving me the exact same thing the other company did. But with a different date the loan was taken out. I said it was for cashnet in the amount of $$$. she agreed. I said I paid this, I have a confirmation number, phone number and name of whom I dealt with. I looked in my husbands check register so now I have the date and company that pulled the money. Her reply was “I will speak to my attorney and if he has any questions he will call you.”
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DUBNER: Wowzer. That does sound pretty damning – that the head of a research group funded by payday lenders is essentially ghostwriting parts of an academic paper that happens to reach pro-payday lending conclusions. Were you able to speak with Marc Fusaro, the author of the paper?
Worse yet, she says, borrowers have almost no choice but to roll over their loans again and again, which jacks up the fees. In fact, rollovers, Standaert says, are an important part of the industry’s business model.
Just got a call from a place called themselves Capital Services. A bit aggressive, had my information, what banking bank has and social security number. I run my credit reports every year. These people said they were representing SJM Marketing for a payday loan I took out in 2009 and was defaulted. I have not seen any such place on my reports. They had my address, but not the one I was living in at the time. They had my wife’s new email address, that she did not have at the time. Their number is 646-354-2096.
On the critic side right now are the Center for Responsible Lending, who promotes 36 percent cap on payday lending, which we know puts the industry out of business. The CFPB’s proposed policy is to payday payers to collect more information at the point of contact that if avoided allows payday lenders to
consumers, is going too far. Under the plan it is now considering, lenders would have to make sure that borrowers can repay their loans and cover other living expenses without extensive defaults or reborrowing. These actions would really seem to curtail the possibility of people falling into debt traps with payday lenders. But the industry argues that the rules would be put out of business. And while a self-serving howl of pain is precisely what you would expect from any industry under government fire, this appears, based on the business model, to be true-not only would the regulations eliminate the very loans from which the industry makes its money, but they would also introduce significant new underwriting costs on every loan.
Do not let one of these companies scare you into making payments if you’re not sure you owe the debt. In most cases, collectors must first take you to court and get a judgment before they can go after your pay or property.
I received a phone call today from an “investigator” stating that there is an investigation on me that I have to give a verbal statement. I called the woman back and she gave me this talk about it’s because of a unpaid payday loan from like 2007. I told her it was not on my credit report and asked why. She replied because “the US federal government is holding your ssn and that it would not show up anyway because it was an open case” (the open case thing is false I know, just checked my credit report again, there’s open things on there ….)
I did not have any phone calls but my previous room was visited at home by a man named Lewis claiming he had a delivery for me and that he is a server server! She has been to her home several times and she has finally told her to stop her harrassing her as well. He left a fake look business card in which he wrote in his name and tel. # 425-223-8367. I have not called him to verify anything yet. Any suggestions how to handle or proceed with this? Any help is appreciated!
I have received a call from 2816748738 he sounds a little convincing but call me at 7 a.m. was alittle weird and I tried googling their company name and something else came up has anyone received a call from this number and what should I do?
They are so far breaking the law. I have not received a written statement regarding the debt of these payday loans. and they have threatened dire consequences multiple times (number 5 in your article), they definitely call earlier
Just received a call from 9206364434 saying I had committed bank fraud theft and a host of other charges and I was going to go to jail, very aggressive and could barely understand him. He did not understand the F word though.
was fishy and it was a scam this guy was rude threating and harassing me to pay $ 920 i want to find this guy and charge him with threatening and harassment and i know i can tell if anyone has the same problem or is sueing him please and thank you
I b. I have been receiving the same calls from Jason and Ms. Thomas from the same company in Illinois. (ALSO, SAID THEY WOULD GARNISH WAGES AND REVOKE MY LICENSE) They have now started employing americans to make these calls to make it sound legit. So I advised that I have been recording these calls for the FBI investigation that I am involved in. I am a professional lawyer and debt collector can not call you without verifying that they have the correct person and that would be done via certified mail with a summons and complaint against you. Also, if the collector such as Jason Locke and Ms. Thomas from 877-601-5871 Ext 259 and 877-601-5871 Ext 251 were real debt collectors they would have to provide written proof of the original loan, copies of the e-sign agreement between you and the lender, account numbers, telephone numbers for the lender etc … This guy Jason did not know his own address when I asked him and he could not confirm my full social security number. Also, one tip to remember is legit collectors have to say the following statement before talking with you “This is a try to collect a debt etc.”, so remember that. The unfortunately was scammed out of $ 500.00 a few years ago and I paid the fees and sent fax to them
One big advice PEOPLE !! Try to avoid giving out your personal information. Avoid any suspicious telemarketing calls (they get your info) or sign any document at your doorstep … This decade is FULL of scammers … so DO NOT get cheated!
So, the payday business model is not like pawn shop, where you surrender your valuable possessions to raise cash. To get a payday loan, you need to have a job and a bank account. According to Pew survey data, some 12 million Americans – roughly 1 in 20 adults – take out a payday loan in a given year. They tend to be relatively young and earn less than $ 40,000; they tend to not have a four-year college degree; and while the most common borrower is a white female, the rate of borrowing is the highest among the minorities.
Back when he was a private businessman, Trump learned how to use law as a weapon. The lesson he took from that is that if your pockets are deep enough – and your conscience dull enough – it does not matter that you are wrong. The other party will be broken before you will lose.
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It may seem inconceivable that a company could not make money collecting interest at a 36 percent annual clip. One reason it’s true is that default rates are high. A study in 2007 by two economists, Mark Flannery and Katherine Samolyk, found that defaults account for more than 20 percent of operating expenses at payday-loan stores. By comparison, loan losses in 2007 at small U.S. commercial banks accounted for only 3 percent of expenses, according to the Kansas City Fed. This is not surprising, given that payday lenders do not look carefully at the borrower’s income, expenses, or credit history to ensure that she can repay the loan: That underwriting process, the bedrock of conventional lending, would be ruinously expensive when applied to a $ 300, two-week loan. Instead, lending to the borrower’s checking account-but if that’s empty due to other withdrawals or overdrafts, it’s empty.
I received a call from [redacted] indicating that she had an order to complete about the charges for distribution of fraudulant text related to the social security number and provided she would be serving these documents to me at my home address. address] today and if service could not be made they would contact my employer and inform them that service would take place at their premises. She said if I had any questions or wanted to set an alternative service to contact the complainant’s attorney at [redacted]. I work at an attorney’s office so I brought this to the attention of an attorney in our office. He called the number, and identified himself as my attorney. The gentleman was very rude and said he could not discuss it with him without a letter of recommendation and that when I received the papers I could bring them to the attorney to review. When he said I was present and would like to ask what was about he still refused to give any information and again said to wait for the papers to be served. My attorney asked him if he was familiar with the fair debt practice act and the gentleman said it was not about a debt. I later called him back if he could please let me know what was all about and he again refused because he says I have a counsel, though he previously refused to tell my attorney any information because there was no letter of representation. The man was very rude and hung up on me. I called back and again asked to please be given any information about the issue, he said he could give me information but was choosing not to and again hung up on me. I called back and said it was a policy to not discuss the matter if I am represented by the counsel. I asked if their company [redacted] was the one suing me or someone else and he said it was them. I asked if he could please at least tell me what court was being filed in. After a very exasperated sigh and some computer typing, he said it was being filed in [county I lived in 8 years ago] through the office of [provided the name of prosecuting attorney for that office]. I then called that prosecuting attorney’s office and let them know about the call and asked if they had any cases with my name, which they did not have and suggested that maybe it was a civil case. I then called the circuit clerk’s office and again told them the situation and asked if anything had been filed with my name and they had nothing. After bringing this information back to my attorney he said it was very likely to scam and to inform the Attorney General’s office. I called and gave the Attorney General’s office all the information and was again told that it was very likely a scam. I suppose we will see if I have anything to do in the next few days …
the time frame and closed the account. Even the gentleman of the bank said it is a fishy because Payday loans are auto withdrawls and if it’s in person and the person does not pay the collateral account is charged. The only way to pay is to close the account.
To repay the loan, you will usually have a post-dated check for the full balance, including the fee, or you provide the lender with the authorization to electronically debit the funds from your bank, credit union or prepaid card account. If you do not repay the loan on or before the due date, the lender can cash the check or electronically withdraw money from your account.
Race Matters: The Concentration of Payday Lenders in North Carolina, by Uriah King, Wei Li, Delvin Davis and Keith Ernst, The Center for Responsible Lending (March, 2005).
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A Review of the Department of Defense’s Report on Predatory Lending Practices Directed at Members of the Armed Forces and Their Dependents, hearing in the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing. & Urban Affairs, (September, 2006).
It’s not easy to stop these scammers but you’ll find some ideas in this article http:
ALAN STONE 704-389 0723 MICHAEL JOHNSON 204-449-0158 AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE NUMBERS I have them on reject -thats how many times they called.once the call came 21 times back to back like a computer was dialing them … 7501003 is the one they use
If it was legit she would have no problem giving the address to the company. She will not divulge this information as she does not want to be sued for illegal collection tactics. Ignore them and move on.
Be aware that some payday lenders have threatened garnishment in order to get borrowers to pay, even though they do not have a court order or judgment. If that should happen, you may want to seek legal assistance.
caller states they will be taking legal action, that the sheriff will be at my house or work place to serve me with papers. Knows my address and date of birth and employer. Says I owe $ 1,100.00. He says I can have my lawyer can him. He speaks with a foriegn accent and sounds exactly like the guy who called 2 months ago for another company threatening the same thing. I paid the debt last time I got SCAMED? The name the guy gave was Mr. Flood and number was 310-999-0442. Please help me !!
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