I had a company contact me today and they said I have a furniture store I did not have an account with the company but they will not send me any documentation from there company and said if I do not pay in an hour a warrant will be released and I will be arrested I’m going to school and do not want to mess up my life so I should pay them
I have received a call today 10
summon at an address I did not live at for 8 years .. When I asked for proof of the original debt, she put me on hold … I waited for a 1
mail to validate the debt.
Do not consider paying. You could consider blocking the number. But ask for a prepaid debit card is a sign of a scammer. Please read this post about that: The One Way You Should Never Pay Debt Collector
This has all the classic signs of a payday loan scam. I would encourage you to report this firm to the authorities – FTC, CFPB, and tell them next time they call you call their call to report them to law enforcement.
I took out a loan from Check N Go about a year ago and I just started to pay it off. A debt collector agency named the PDL Recovery Group started calling me and threatening me if I did not start a payment plan, check N Go was going to take me to court and start garnishing my salary.
Joseph – You may want to alert your employer. This scam is well documented from many sources so hopefully your employer would be understanding if you explained that you are being targeted by a scammer.
I received a call back in July 2012. He said he was with the cook county district attorney office. That charge was pending from 2008 on cash advance. I told him this was paid for but did not have access to that bank information. He gave me the number of the attorney processing the charge. It was ACS. They would not give me any information about the old claim. Only that they have the right to process check fraud charges. I got pressured in setting up a payment arrangement. I paid the first installment and then cancel my credit card for the second. When I started reading all these claims. Now they continue to call and harass about filing charges. This time the guy when he called did not say he was with cook county and admitted he an investigator. He will not give you a number to call him back. What can I do? How do I get them to stop?
I got a call from ACS stating that they would need to get my account settled and that my account was due to go to court due to payday loan fraud, and that i have 24 hours to call back and considered myself served, they also said that they were a lawfirm. They called mt family members and said I had to call them back and that they did not have any credit plans or credit cards or check over the phone. they kept calling on the summons division, what i’m going to do is ask them for a letter, an address of where they are located and their website, ‘
ok heres how this works i did it for about a few years ago first off all the debt is real debt. Ok now heres where the rest becomes illegal to speak or at least walk that thin line in my eyes. its real debt that the people owed but for these companies by the time they got it its OVER the 7 year statute of limitations for collections so they hit hard and fast before you catch on. now when you call john or mary lets say they have professional closers who guess what are now john or mary each one of us gets our list of people going to call and get my company buys by the bAZILLION from the credit card companies medical collection agencies etc for pennies the month i worked there they had a million $$$ month so theres a lot of uninformed people out there. anyways we get their debt info then credit report etc and we search them before we call had my own code to run backgrounds reverse phone etc that way we sound legit we then spoof your sheriff or court house number threaten jail and arrest at your work etc unless you call john or mary since we are all either john or mary they never know for pay for us we had a number like john 1 john 2 or mary 1 mary 2 etc. i can go on and on the gist lol my conscience got the best of me i had to quit p.s. if this happens again just laugh at them and ask them what time breakfast you need a vacation and club med was booked solid so jail will do lol theyll move to the next victim they just keep hounding and bullying if you look weak and they think youll pay. good luck
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Yes .. I’m getting the same calls as you and from the same guy .. Timothy and yes, he said he’s calling from ADR .. and today I got a call from Tom Hayden who did not identify the company he was he .. he said he received a fax in his office and I had one chance to clear it up by calling 877 548-4064 .. he said I have charges pending against me and would be served. He did not leave a number he could be reached at only ADR’s number. When I called the lady said that I had a loan PD and that I had to pay it right then over the phone by credit card or debit card or give them a member of the credit card etc .. otherwise I was going to be served and would have to go to court and possibly be jailed for check fraud. She then put her “boss” on the phone who named her Gregory Scott and said she would do me a favor and reduce the amount owed by 200.00 which is what she was going to pay the server to come and serve me papers but Only if I can secure him with a debit card or credit card. I asked him where he thought I could get one and he said ACE cash express .. I told him I did not have a credit card nor did I have a pre-paid debit card .. I asked him for the information in writing so I could verify that they were legit and he hung up on me. Seriously, maybe we should do something about this ADR company .. they called my cousin and I never used my cousin as ANYTHING reference and they threatened him (this time when he just lost his sister to cancer) and they told him he needed to secure my debt.
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Saying you’re going to be arrested for fraud because you have not paid your payday loan is a bogus threat. The fact that they have all this information about you does not mean it is a legitimate collection attempt. And the fact that you want to pay with a moneypack is a big red flag. I would suggest you turn the tables on them and report them to the Federal Trade Commission and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (consumerfinance.gov). Next time they call start the conversation by telling them you are going to record the call to deliver to law enforcement – and do so!
any other information. The payday borrower then writes a check – and this is the key part of the technology – the payday borrower then writes a check for the amount of the loan and postdates it by two weeks. And this becomes the collateral for the loan. So payday will not pay the loan in two weeks, the payday lender then deposits the check.
I also received a call from this fraud investigator but he named her morgan and she worked for the commonwealth of pa. Yeah right. He also said my debt was from 2008 from money and more and threatened me with 5 or 6 bogus charges. But what did you think I was looking for? My name was bc he knew unfortunately I have a misdemeanor record and tried to use that against me from when I was 18. These people really scare you into thinking you owe. The first time he called I got a payment about a year ago. Different person had called. It was a prepaid card thank God not my bank that I do not have the bank acct they reference anymore. I also live in pa and when I told him I knew it was a scam He said he could not wait to see me prosecuted. Nolegit company would talk like this. And the statute of limitation on debt is 4 years in fraud 2years my supposed loan was in 2008. As well as you tell them you know it’s a scam they flip. He told me I was gonna need a good attorney etc. If such charges were to be brought against someone I’m sure they would not wait 5 years. Still scared you when they call because you see what they are threatening to do to people. Do not understand how this happens to so many.
It can be frustrating and embarrassing when debt collectors call relatives, and, as you suspect, some debt collectors use tactics that are not legal. But, as a consumer, you are not powerless. Here are three Credit.com articles you may find useful, and thanks for alerting others to the kind of treatment you have received.
The laws in your state may permit, regulate, or prohibit these loans. Some states do not have payday lending because these are not allowed by the state’s law or because the payday lenders have not decided to do business at the interest rate and fees allowed in those states. In states that do not allow or pay for payday loan, you may be able to obtain more information from your state regulator or state attorney general.
That’s the real question Kristen. How do we stop them? If they are calling from overseas and flouting our laws, what can we do? I recommend that you file a complaint with your state attorney general, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (consumerfinance.gov) and the Better Business Bureau with as many details as possible, in case there is an investigation into this company. In the meantime, you may want to find out if your phone company offers a call screening service. It will cost a few bucks a month but may be useful.
There is no surefire way to stop them other than to use some kind of call screening service where only calls you approve go through. You can get some ideas from this piece I wrote: http:
DeYOUNG: They do not overdraft the checking account and take out the payday loan because they’ve done the calculus. That overdrafting on four or five checks at their bank is going to cost them more money than taking out the payday loan.
wish I had an answer for you as far as stopping the calls. You may want to find out if your company offers service that screens calls for you. (It requires callers to announce themselves and then choose whether to take the call.) Google voice does this for free. It will allow you to select which calls you can use without announcements and which you have to screen. I use Google voice and like it alot. It can do the trick for you.
I was contacted by the same company and paid. Did not receive a receipt either. Then I contacted the company they said I supposedly owed the money to. The payday loan company looked up my info and said I had never had a loan with them and advised me to call my bank. My Bank is now going after PDLR group for fraud.
People this stuff is a SCAM they CAN NOT arrest you for having a faulty payday loan. They first have to take you to court and they CAN NOT contact you by phone to inform you of it. You have to be served from the court of the court and where the court is and who is being taken to court for and for what reasons.
They left me a voice message saying that I would be served some paperwork between 12 & 4pm monday. And if I was not at home they would come by my job. I called them at 3:30 Monday and they said there was a problem having to be ready tomorrow or take care of it today. I asked who was from they said B & G payday loan I took out in 2011 for $ 500.00. I told them I never heard of them and just served me the paperwork. He got an attitude saying I should pay and it’s more because it’s so late. He sounded like he was high on drugs and his phone was breaking up and his raspy voice I could barely
Do not let one of these companies scare you into making payments if you’re not sure you owe the debt. In most cases, collectors must first take you to court and get a judgment before they can go after your pay or property.
You can do all of us should do – check your credit reports and scores regularly. Given the number of data people are required to give Social Security numbers, we are all at some risk. We wrote about somewhat similar situation here: Help! Someone Is Using My Social Security Number
You are doing all the right things, and it sounds like the calls you are receiving are not legitimate. Please do not give these companies any account numbers (credit card, debit or any other financial account). We’ve written about these scams before. This post may be useful (or reassuring) to you:
We are working on some of our payday loans clients and they are getting these same calls. One of the customers were scared in paying them until I looked it up. They said they were from payday loan recovery group. Saying she owed a loan from 2008 for 1,200 and she could pay it in full for $ 399. She was scared in paying but I told her to cancel her creid card before it went through. They send her an invoice on the decline. The processing company is http:
I received a phone call today from an “investigator” stating that there is an investigation on me that I have to give a verbal statement. I called the woman back and she gave me this talk about it’s because of a unpaid payday loan from like 2007. I told her it was not on my credit report and asked why. She replied because “the US federal government is holding your ssn and that it would not show up anyway because it was an open case” (the open case thing is false I know, just checked my credit report again, there’s open things on there ….)
I did take a payday loan years ago but was paid off and no issues and not with the companies listed. The three are just not mine. Went to the bank asked transactions from
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I could not believe how fast everything was processed! I could not believe that I had gotten approved as most lenders do not approve me for some unknown reason. I was so happy and thankful that it came through quickly. Now I’m able to pay for my bond! Thank you!
couple months ago stating that I had taken out a loan in Aug of 2012. They said they had papers for me and that I had to pay right away to avoid legal action. They gave me the bank account number and checking account number that the money was deposited in, had my social security number and knew where
I gotten calls from PDLR- IT’S A SCAM! Beware for Miss Berry, Miss Santiago, or Miss Stiles, who all claim to be supervisors! The said my salary is going to be garnished in 2 days, we had a very heated exchange in which Miss Berry started talking about my mother, lol. Then when I insisted on the proof of the debt, how much, and who they are, they told me that I would get an email after the 1st payment is made. Initially I thought it was a legitimate debt & gave my credit card info, but after googling this agency I’ve found it a scam. Called my bank & reported it immediately.
DEYOUNG: If we take an objective look at the folks who use payday lending, what we find is that most users of the product are very satisfied with the product. Survey results show that almost 90 percent of the users of the product say that they are either somewhat satisfied or very satisfied with the product afterwards.
I’m glad to hear you are no longer panicking. Debt collectors can not have you hauled off to jail just because you can not pay your bills. What kind of debt is this? Do you have it Has this collection agency sent you anything in writing?
Debt Collection Scammer
He does not want direct bank transfer and does not want money orders as both will leave paper trails right to him. He just wants us to get a pre-paid debit card from the store and put the money on it.
I just had my first run with one of these “companies.” I immediately knew that it was gibberish but decided to play along. They were immediately taken by the fact I have a British accent but continue their charade. I initially spoke with a woman and the number was 0000. Typically I do not pick up these strange numbers as I assume it’s some sort of scam but I had a itch. She picked up said something and immediately handed the phone over to another counterpart. He of course made claims to a loan I took out in 2008, I believe. Along with fraud check and two other false claims. I immediately said that I was only 16 than though he continued the pressure. Statements of we sent you multiple EMAILS, you’ll receive a summon, etc. After he continued to talk about me I said in a very naive way “He said in his absurdly thick accent” of course. “I than yelled” you such a person I I was a student of law and the likeliness of convincing me of any truth was impossible. “He continued to press me and I slyly said a remark in Spanish than hung up. The fact that I was 16 in said year and British alone should have made him end the call, very foolish tactic. They called me BACK RIGHT AFTER AS WELL. I can also complain of the heavy background noise, completely spineless people praying on Americans suffering through enough of a crisis as is. If I receive another call I will take some of these actions to try and help in ceasing this callous behavior.
My daughter has been getting these calls for a year and a half now. The last one was on 7
I recently been scammed by a company called Brinkmen Alliance Group threatening that I do not pay them I’m going to get papers at my employer and home and that will have to appear in court and that my 2 cases against me are pending litigation. They are also a third party who is trying to collect a debt for a creditor that is not my original creditor (they state both the original and current creditors on the statement they emailed me) that is a bogus company. They are trying to collect a debt from me for a payday loan that I did not pay from 2005. Statute of limitations for debt collections in PA is 4 years for promissory notes. Brinkmen’s contact info is:
he was not allowed to do that since I was at a negative I told him it would go thru, so I told him I would give him my daughters debit card number she had the money and she said it was to be under my name so he told me to get a cash pak (green dot) and call him back with the number on the back. I did that and have to pay another 200 on the 16th and then the other 200.00 next month because he took 300.00 off the original price I owed. I paid the $ 100 because I was scared and did not want my husband to go to jail but I told him I wanted paperwork sent to me and he said he would send it when it was paid off but he would send me a redirect to my email and I have not got it yet. I wish I knew he was really with the Federal Crime Dept like he said he is or if he is a fraud. Cause I do not want to give him anymore but I do not want my husband to go to jail. I know we got a loan thru them but it was supposed to come out of our acct everydayday but he said they tried and it was not taken out due to insufficient funds but I can not remember wheather it was paid off or not. Does anyone know a site I can look under to see if this is fraud? Please HELP
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And yet it is surprisingly difficult to condemn the business wholesale. Emergency credit can be a lifeline, after all. And while stories about the payday-lending industry’s individual victims are horrible, the research on its effect at a more macro level is limited and very ambiguous. One study shows that payday lending makes local communities more resilient; another says it increases personal bankruptcies; and so on.
I’m very leary about calling them back and giving them my current address as I do not have them to have another piece of the puzzle if this is a scam. It’s just that the lady not only sounded sympathetic but did give me good good advice in this case is the theft ID. but again if the debt was real and even if someone used my ID to get these loans the PayDay Loan companies had a current and active bank account that could have accessed.
CHRISTOPHER WERTH: Right. Well, it’s a non-profit watchdog, relatively new organization. Its mission is to expose corporate and political misconduct, primarily by using open-record applications, such as the Freedom of Information Act or FOIA applications, to produce evidence.
the threats. Do not worry they’re all scam … The cops are still investigating … The cops contacted NCN guys .. (who were probably freaked out … lol) and these guys said they had nothing to do with the calls … Its just made up fake company name … and they are just making prank calls …
I just had this happen and
A Review of the Department of Defense’s Report on Predatory Lending Practices Directed at Members of the Armed Forces and Their Dependents, hearing in the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing. & Urban Affairs, (September, 2006).
Have you pulled your credit reports yet? If there was an unpaid balance from the payday loan you took out a while back, it could have been sent to the collections and increased interest interest over the years. If the account is in the collections or it is the result of a judgment against you and it has been reported to the credit bureau, it will appear on your credit report. You can get free copies of your credit report from each of the major credit reporting agencies at AnnualCreditReport.com. Keep us posted on what you find out!
ALAN STONE 704-389 0723 MICHAEL JOHNSON 204-449-0158 AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE NUMBERS I have them on reject -thats how many times they called.once the call came 21 times back to back like a computer was dialing them … 7501003 is the one they use
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