I received a calling phone call from number 701-212-1223 stating that I had owed a payday lone in the price of $ 2097.00 and that if i did not care about this that there would be a sherrif at my door to take me to jail and for e to appear in court.
Cost of a payday loan. Many state laws set a maximum amount for payday loan fees ranging from $ 10 to $ 30 for every $ 100 borrowed. A typical two-week payday loan with $ 15 per $ 100 fee equates to an annual percentage rate (APR) of about 400 percent. By comparison, APRs on credit cards can range from about 12 percent to about 30 percent. In many states that allow payday lending, the cost of the loan, fees, and the maximum loan amount are capped.
DEYOUNG: Oh, I think that our history of usury laws is a direct result of our Judeo-Christian background. And even Islamic banking, which follows in the same tradition. But clearly interest on lent or borrowed money has, has been looked at non-objectively, let’s put it that way. So the shocking APR numbers if we apply them to rent a hotel or rent a car or lend your father’s gold watch or your mother’s silverware to the pawnbroker for a month, the APRs come out similar. So the shock from these numbers is, we recognize the shock here because we are used to calculate interest rates on loans but not interest rates on anything else. And it’s human nature to want to hear bad news and it’s, you know, the media understands this and so they report bad news more often than good news. We do not hear this. It’s like the houses that do not burn down and the stores that do not get robbed.
This has all the hallmarks of the payday loan collection scam that’s happening all over the country. I am quite confident you will not be served with any kind of papers. Even if they could sue you, they could not suspend your license! (As you say, what is the license?)
Do not let one of these companies scare you into making payments if you’re not sure you owe the debt. In most cases, collectors must first take you to court and get a judgment before they can go after your pay or property.
This is a standard procedure when dealing with any debt collector and by law, the collector must comply with this request. If they refuse, they are breaking the law under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and have no right to continue to try to collect. In fact, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, if a collector contacts you by phone they have 5 days in which to send you formal written notice that you owe the debt. The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and your right to dispute the debt, in writing, within 30 days of receipt of the notice.
WERTH: So far, so good. But I think we should mention two things here: one, Fusaro had a co-author on the paper. Her name is Patricia Cirillo; she’s the president of a company named Cypress Research, which is by the way, is the same survey firm that produced data for the paper you mentioned earlier, about how payday borrowers are pretty good at predicting when they will be able to pay back their loans. And the other point, two, there was a long chain of e-mails between Marc Fusaro, the academic researcher here, and the CCRF. And what they show is they really look like editorial interference.
remember they are sitting in a boiler room somewhere – maybe not in the US – making false threats. If you need to, call your phone company and find out how to put your phone call on your phone. Or get a google voice number and set it up so that only calls from people you know go through.
I am very concerned you are dealing with a scammer – possibly in both instances. Please read this article about how process servers work and proceed with extreme caution. (And verify the one you are making payments to is legitimate!)
• Ask the collector for the name and address of the collection agency for which he or she works. Then ask him to send you written information about the debt. Any legitimate debt collection agency will do this because it is required under the federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
I’ve been receiving phone calls from a person who claims to be an investigator and tells me there are charges pending against me for a payday loan from 2009. He gave me the name of a collection agency (Global) that I called and they told me the same thing I really took out a payday loan in 2009 from this “money and more” online company. The loan was repaid and I even faxed copies of the bank statements showing this back in 2009. They say the copies of these statements are not in my file. And this “INVESTIGATOR” well his phone does not accept incoming calls, and he wants me to give him my address to send me sealed documents! I did not give any of my information as I see it, if he found out my cell phone number, then he can find out my address. This man was very rude, very aggressive and very threatening. He continues to call my phone 4 & 5 times a day. I do not know how to get rid of these people. This man, I do not know his name or who he wors for, he gave me no information, only that there were charges against me and my state “bad check writing laws” would be against me as well, pending criminal charges … ..I which often have internet access … but i get my e-mail on my phone, so if anyone would like to e-mail me with helpful information it would be much appreciated. Thank You
If you find some of the modern economic scenario, most people have at least one horse in every race, which makes it difficult to separate advocacy and reality. So let’s go where Freakonomics Radio often goes when we want to find someone who does not have a horse in the race: to academia. Let’s ask some academic researchers if the payday-loan industry is really as nasty as it looks.
ALAN STONE 704-389 0723 MICHAEL JOHNSON 204-449-0158 AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE NUMBERS I have them on reject -thats how many times they called.once the call came 21 times back to back like a computer was dialing them … 7501003 is the one they use
any other information. The payday borrower then writes a check – and this is the key part of the technology – the payday borrower then writes a check for the amount of the loan and postdates it by two weeks. And this becomes the collateral for the loan. So payday will not pay the loan in two weeks, the payday lender then deposits the check.
• Do not let one of these companies scare you into making payments if you’re not sure you owe the debt. In most cases, collectors must first take you to court and get a judgment before they can go after your pay or property. (If you live in Minnesota, however, read this warning.)
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DeYOUNG: Borrowing money is like renting money. You have to use it for a few weeks. You could rent a car for two weeks, right? You get to use that car. Well, if you calculate the annual percentage rate on that car rental – that means that you divide the amount you pay on that car by the value of that automobile – you get similarly high rates. So this is not about interest. This is about short-term use of a product that’s been lent to you. This is just arithmetic.
has been calling from 617-933-7954 called CRS Solutions claim I have unpaid payday loans from 2008 2009 and 2010 all in fairly small 200 to $ 400 range I never took these payday loans out. but they had my old email, my real bank account with router number gave last 4 digits of SS # and knew my wife’s name.
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i get harrassed from this lady name judy bowling stating that i owe over 10,000 to this payday one loan.i never made a loan.i have never filled out a application or i never did any business with any loan.its scary that they have my social security number, my drivers license and all my private info.what can I do?
CHRISTOPHER WERTH: Right. Well, it’s a non-profit watchdog, relatively new organization. Its mission is to expose corporate and political misconduct, primarily by using open-record applications, such as the Freedom of Information Act or FOIA applications, to produce evidence.
The same number has been harrassing my work place for the past two days. The breifly talked to him and told him that I would call him back after work hours. But no one answers. Now he’s talking to almost everyone here at my work claiming that they are cussing at him. I already told him to stop calling me work. That’s pissing me off, I do not know what else to do!
I received a call back in July 2012. He said he was with the cook county district attorney office. That charge was pending from 2008 on cash advance. I told him this was paid for but did not have access to that bank information. He gave me the number of the attorney processing the charge. It was ACS. They would not give me any information about the old claim. Only that they have the right to process check fraud charges. I got pressured in setting up a payment arrangement. I paid the first installment and then cancel my credit card for the second. When I started reading all these claims. Now they continue to call and harass about filing charges. This time the guy when he called did not say he was with cook county and admitted he an investigator. He will not give you a number to call him back. What can I do? How do I get them to stop?
I got a call today from a GA number, 404-996-1953, I was told that an arrest warrant was going to be out at at 5 pm today If I did not make a payment of 300.00 for a loan I did not receive , but bc I applied and cancelled and changed my bank acct information I was going to be held for check fraud, I explained that I never received the loan and she explained that I did not read the fine print that said that by applying for this loan I agreed to pay
I had calls from Texas and the guy was just talking and talking and he would not let me talk so I said how to pay you, he said give me your debit card, so I said **** you, and he said The cops are going to come in 24 hours and I’m going to lose the case, so I said **** you again, think about what person is Arabic is named Michael brown
I have been receiving calls from what sounds like the same group of folks. Starting last week I had a message from “Justin Jones” stating that I had to contact him immediately or have my attorney contact him that I would be sorry. If he did not hear from me that I would face some serious legal actions. He also said that they would come to my workplace or home and I will be the only responsible person for further legal consequences and that I should call him bsck as soon as possible before it too late. Thank you and have a blessed day, goodbye. It was very broken Indian dialect. I returned the call and spoke to Derek Anderson. Apparently Justin Jones is one of his “officers.” I was told that They would be willing to settle for $ 998 in place of the $ 1795.00 they said I owed them through Advance Payday Loan. I have never taken a payday loan. I had to give him a debit card or send a payment via Western Union right away or they would have the sheriff come to me on the following three charges. 1 breach of federal banking laws 2 Collateral check fraud, and 3 Theft by deception. I asked for a physical address so that I could send the funds via overnight delivery or some other traceable method. He did not want to give me a physical address but after much questioning from me he gave me an address of 633 Marimbo Street New York, NY 10023 But that they would not accept mail payments, only Western Union (he forgot about the debit and credit card at this point)
of course, I got VERY upset! The thought of being locked up from my husband and our kids scared the hot piss outta me! So I went ahead and gave them my pre-paid debit card info and told them that we would try to pay when our money came in and then we wanted to know when we filed. then he put me on to call their client and when he returned to the phone he said we need $ 25 on 2
I have received a call from 2816748738 he sounds a little convincing but call me at 7 a.m. was alittle weird and I tried googling their company name and something else came up has anyone received a call from this number and what should I do?
Debt Collection Scammer
poor reviews. This Marsha has told me that I’m being sued for nonpayment and that they need to be contacted by my lawyer and today wanted to know if I was going to defend myself or what. she says my account number is 14918-1219 also that my conscience would be suspended for 120 days WHAT LIC. and when I asked was given a list of possible lic that could be suspended including my drivers lic.
Bob DeYoung makes a very complicated argument about the use of payday loans. Instead of “trapping borrowers in a cycle of debt,” as President Obama and other critics put it, DeYoung argues that payday loans can help people avoid a cycle of debt – like the late payment of your company company charges for an unpaid bill; like the overdraft fees or bounced-check your bank fees may charge you.
I received the same call yesterday and today from Eric Brown threathening to come to my place of employment and have me served. When asked for his company name, phone number he said I havd been warded. He starts off having a lot of personal information address, phone number really scary. How do they get all this? He has been calling my cell phone everyday today with threats. I have his messa saved on voice mail. He also informs me to contact 877-418-8244 Pay Day Solutions. His number is always unavailable. Will contact Attornet General and FTC today. How can we stop this?
And yet it is surprisingly difficult to condemn the business wholesale. Emergency credit can be a lifeline, after all. And while stories about the payday-lending industry’s individual victims are horrible, the research on its effect at a more macro level is limited and very ambiguous. One study shows that payday lending makes local communities more resilient; another says it increases personal bankruptcies; and so on.
After studying the millions of payday loans, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau found that 67 percent went to borrowers with seven or more transactions per year, and the majority of borrowers paid more in fees than the amount of their initial loan. This is why Diane Standaert, the director of state policy at the Center for Responsible Lending, says 36 percent interest-rate cap, says, “The typical borrower experience involves long-term indebtedness-that’s core to the business model.”
Thanks so much for doing this. You have proven you are an honorable person and no one will blame you. Everyone needs a job but you were brave enough to quit when you found out they were immoral. You have been very helpful!
I just got a call from this company saying I got a payday loan off line and I never paid for it. He gave me information that anyone could have gotten when you apply for a payday loan online. He said that I would be arrested and jailed if I did not pay $ 1,000 immediately when he stared saying this I asked for the name of the company and he was hesitant to give me the name and i gotggled it and found all of the complaints about the company. I did not believe it because none of the payday loans that I have, have been from the internet. It’s funny because I’m typing this one from USA CASH Advance # 904-900-8462. These people should be stopped.
No need to panic. Debt collectors do not pick people up at home or work because they can not pay their bills. Ask them to send you a written notice of the debt that is required under federal law. (By mail, not email.) If they say they can not, then you’re dealing with a scammer. If so, then read my article 7 Ways to Stop Overseas Debt Collection Scam Calls and turn the tables on them!
It can be frustrating and embarrassing when debt collectors call relatives, and, as you suspect, some debt collectors use tactics that are not legal. But, as a consumer, you are not powerless. Here are three Credit.com articles you may find useful, and thanks for alerting others to the kind of treatment you have received.
DUBNER: Now, Bob, the blog post is a pop version of a meta-study, which rolls up other research on different pieces of the issue. I’m sorry that the studies that you cite in the post are not just the biased rantings of some ultra-right-wing pro-market-at-all-cost lunatics. And I realize that at least one of the primary studies was authored by yourself, so I guess I’m asking you to prove that you are not an ultra-right-wing pro-market-at-all-cost lunatic.
better thanks for educating me on this scam.
Now, we should say, that when you are an academic study of a particular industry, often the only way to get the data is from the industry itself. It’s a common practice. But, as Zinman noted in his paper, as the researcher you draw the line at letting the industry or industry advocates influence the findings. But as our producer Christopher Werth learned that it has not always been the case with payday-lending research and the Consumer Credit Research Foundation, or the CCRF.
I have been receiving weird calls from 1-888 ??? The number and recently they stopped and have been appearing as “unknown” on my iPhone. They left me a message saying something about court and I should call them as soon as possible. I deleted the message so I do not remember exactly what it said. So last night my mom returned from work and told me that my aunt told her that they called her at her house asking about me and gave them a name and the name adan alvarez. They scared my aunt and now we’re all scared. My mom is going to call them tomorrow. I’m kind of afraid because my mom is a very gullible woman. She will not call me because I’m 19. I have had a loan for school but it was through finacial aid and it was the kind that I do not have to pay until I graduate from school.
thank you Geri this makes my mind at ease even though deep down inside i thought i was right .. i know i owe them the money .. thank you so much i wish other ppl would research this so they do not get scamed. .
DUBNER: OK, so this is interesting that a watchdog group that will not reveal its funding is going after an industry to try to influence academics that’s funding. So should we assume that CFA, the watchdog, has some kind of horse in the payday race? Do we just not know?
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