DeYOUNG: Borrowing money is like renting money. You have to use it for a few weeks. You could rent a car for two weeks, right? You get to use that car. Well, if you calculate the annual percentage rate on that car rental – that means that you divide the amount you pay on that car by the value of that automobile – you get similarly high rates. So this is not about interest. This is about short-term use of a product that’s been lent to you. This is just arithmetic.
This is a standard procedure when dealing with any debt collector and by law, the collector must comply with this request. If they refuse, they are breaking the law under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and have no right to continue to try to collect. In fact, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, if a collector contacts you by phone they have 5 days in which to send you formal written notice that you owe the debt. The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and your right to dispute the debt, in writing, within 30 days of receipt of the notice.
Hello. Just a new warning. I received a call today from a company called Legal Research Group in Houston, TX. They also called me my sister and said that if I did not pay them $ 1600 right away that I would be arrested and that there were 2 warrants out for my arrest. Their number is 832-706-3791 and the guy goes by Ryan Adams and Adam Ryan depending on which time he picks up the call. They answer “Compliance Department” and switch back to “departments”. When I asked them to email me the paperwork and detail, they said they were not allowed to. They said they would email me all the info once I gave them the payment information. When I started to challenge them on it they hung up. To catch them, I called back and said that I would go ahead and pay (just to see how they reacted). They were REALLY excited. Then I started to act nice and ask them for details that they could not give. Then I asked them for their company name and address and they just hung up. SCAM !! I called a filed complaint with the FTC.
In a vicious cycle, the higher the permitted fees, the more stores, the lesser customers each store serves, so the higher the fees need to be. Competition, in other words, does reduce profits to lenders, as expected – but it seems to carry no benefit to consumers, at least as measured by the rates they are charged. (The old loan sharks may have been able to charge lower rates because of lower overhead, although it’s impossible to know.) Mayer thinks the explanation may have more to do with the differences in the customer base: Because alternative alternatives were sparse back then, these lenders served a more diverse and overall more creditworthy set of borrowers, so default rates were likely lower.)
It can be frustrating and embarrassing when debt collectors call relatives, and, as you suspect, some debt collectors use tactics that are not legal. But, as a consumer, you are not powerless. Here are three Credit.com articles you may find useful, and thanks for alerting others to the kind of treatment you have received.
said that if I agree to make three payments to settle the debt they would not take me to court. I agreed and made the first two payment, now I have a single payment and I do not have the money until next time I get paid which is a week from the due date. I tried to call the company that is taking the money out of my account to see if they would work with me and take the money out when i have it but i have to leave a message due to “high call volume” but never recieved a call back. My question is they can still take me to court and what’s the hood of them doing this?
There is no westwood mediation. If they are talking with a high accent they are Indian scammers. It’s the latest foreign scam being hoisted on Americans, gullible ones that it. If you have applied or attempted to apply for a payday loan, they will call you at some point. Be ready when they call. They are looking for some one gullible to easily victimize. You can not reason with them and anyway they are conducting a scam so deal with it properly – blowing a loud air air horn into the phone. They get the message with that loud and clear that you are not to be messed with and they usually move on.
Maybe that’s about as good as it gets on the fringe. Outrage is easy, and outrage is warranted-but maybe payday lenders should not be its main target. The problem is not just that people who desperately need a $ 350 loan can not get it at a affordable rate, but that a growing number of people need that loan in the first place.
I was receiving threatening calls from someone claiming to be from the Attourney General’s office. Stating that because of a past due credit that they were going to have the authorities pick me up at my place of work and have me arrested. They asked to pay them $ 120 of the $ 500 that I owed them in order for them to hold off on calling the authorites. I have got past due loans and they verified my email address and home address and the company i worked for. I thought it might have been for real, they wanted me to go to the walgreens and pick up a prepaid card in order to make the payment to them. I was going to send them the money but after talking to one of the lawyers within the company I worked for they advised me that this was a scam call trying to get money out of me. Especially since no prio documentation was provided and they refused to provide any documents until I made a payment. The numbers they were calling from were 951-878-0689, and 951-708-1208. I looked up the
the past several days, some entity claiming they have papers to serve have been blowing up relative relatives. Trying to acertain my whereabouts. The days that I have not worked. No one has been to my doorstep to do, the email i recieved is at best enough to leave skepticism abound, considering the sentence and word structure and does not jive as being official. If you want to see it reply back
Now, we should say, that when you are an academic study of a particular industry, often the only way to get the data is from the industry itself. It’s a common practice. But, as Zinman noted in his paper, as the researcher you draw the line at letting the industry or industry advocates influence the findings. But as our producer Christopher Werth learned that it has not always been the case with payday-lending research and the Consumer Credit Research Foundation, or the CCRF.
No, contacting Social Security does not make sense unless you need to change your SSN which is not something easily done (or recommended). However, your information is “out there” so you may want to file a police report and at least place fraud alert on your credit reports.
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order in order to process any garnishment so doubt anything will come from this. I’m happy to find out this company is a scam and that I was not the only one who almost fell for it. This people need to be stopped as soon as possible. This is riduclous. It’s sad that people come up with stuff like this to do to others.
of my ssn # and threatened to take me to court, but I have been ignoring his calls. Can you tell me if he really did anything. Thanks.
Do you believe them Maria ,. they will say anything and even break the law to do so. If it was actually a fraud investigator your local police or sheriffs department would be the person who called you to not have a random person telling you to get an attorney.
call from Niagra Capital Services Inc. About a loan from 2010 when I lived in New Jersey. He said he has a legal complaint about me. He has my new phone number, where I used to work as well as my new address in a different state. He said with interest I owe about $ 1,500, but will settle for $ 560. I asked him to email me the info, (since he has my email address) I have taken the name of the payday loan company that I took out the loan with. I remember that I paid hundreds of over what I borrowed. I emailed him back and asked for the original paperwork associated with the loan. I did some research and found that payday loans are illegal in the state of New Jersey. It’s been over 4 years. What can I do?
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau now accepts complaints about debt collection. You can submit your complaint here:
Please complain to your state attorney general and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC.gov). Your complaint will be entered into Consumer Sentinel, a shared database by law enforcement agencies. Be as specific as possible in your complaint.
Reg – This is a common tactic that is used to scare you into pay without questioning the validity of the debt. There are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
going to be sent to court for “fraud” and continued to talk and talk and talk. But as I listened to her, I caught her in many lies. And on top of that she did not sound professional at all and kept repeating my name over and over trying to break me down. Then I asked to talk to the supervisor and she said, “I’m so scam” and I said, “I heard her whispering to someone else and then she came back on the phone and I told you that they are not a scam and I replied with “I can talk to your supervisor” and then she put me on “Hold” then I heard the phone being held up to a speaker so I could hear “elevator” music while I was being “transferred” to the supervisor. She finally transferred me to this guy saying that I could pay her with a gift card instead. I just said “I’ll think about if I want to pay you scam artists or not” then I hung up. Since then, I’ve gotten nothing.
I just wondering have anyone heard of KDE Recovery Services … They called me today about a payday loan and I hung up. The lady called me back and left a very rude message on my voicemail calling me ignorant and if I did not pay she was going to sign this affidavit and have a warrant issued to my job to be arrested. It sounds like a scam but I’m not sure they say it’s a loan I had back in 2007. They have my name, address, phone numbers and social security number. it starts to really freak me out
If they call back, follow the instructions outlined in this article or the resource provided above. If the collector will not comply with your requests, then it may be a scam. It’s hard to say until you talk to them to see if the debt is legitimate. Whatever you do, do not let them intimidate you in paying without validating the debt. As a result of the comment on this thread, they use scare tactics and prey on consumers not knowing their rights and the laws when it comes to debt collections.
country you will not have any luck with either.
was surprised that I was not served. The guy said if I got served he could not help me. He said I wrote the check in 2007 and the client wants to take me to court for $ 5408 which is 4 years of interest. I think it’s a scam. I do not remember the name of the company. Is this most likely a scam? He only asked for my last 4 numbers of my Social security number ..
DEYOUNG: Oh, I think that our history of usury laws is a direct result of our Judeo-Christian background. And even Islamic banking, which follows in the same tradition. But clearly interest on lent or borrowed money has, has been looked at non-objectively, let’s put it that way. So the shocking APR numbers if we apply them to rent a hotel or rent a car or lend your father’s gold watch or your mother’s silverware to the pawnbroker for a month, the APRs come out similar. So the shock from these numbers is, we recognize the shock here because we are used to calculate interest rates on loans but not interest rates on anything else. And it’s human nature to want to hear bad news and it’s, you know, the media understands this and so they report bad news more often than good news. We do not hear this. It’s like the houses that do not burn down and the stores that do not get robbed.
Gerri offers excellent advice on how to handle a debt collection here: If you are looking for a good deal,
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