In a vicious cycle, the higher the permitted fees, the more stores, the lesser customers each store serves, so the higher the fees need to be. Competition, in other words, does reduce profits to lenders, as expected – but it seems to carry no benefit to consumers, at least as measured by the rates they are charged. (The old loan sharks may have been able to charge lower rates because of lower overhead, although it’s impossible to know.) Mayer thinks the explanation may have more to do with the differences in the customer base: Because alternative alternatives were sparse back then, these lenders served a more diverse and overall more creditworthy set of borrowers, so default rates were likely lower.)
WERTH: I was, and what he told me was that even though Hilary
numbers online and it looks they dont exist. I’m trying to report them before someone else becomes a victim.
WINCY COLLINS: I advise everyone, “Do not even mess with those people. They are rip-offs “I would not go back again. I do not even like to walk across the street past it. That’s just how pissed I was, and so hurt.
I am very concerned you are dealing with a scammer – possibly in both instances. Please read this article about how process servers work and proceed with extreme caution. (And verify the one you are making payments to is legitimate!)
Sorry to hear a scammer made your day so difficult, but we are relieved to do not send a moneygram. Those, along with prepaid cards, are popular ways for scammers to take advantage of scared consumers. But good for you for doing the research and figuring out it was a scam.
I also received several calls from an unidentified no. but the call sounds like she’s calling from overseas and can not make out the details. I called the Lady back and a male with a great Indian accent answered “Hello this is Dominic, How can I help? I asked the man the name of the company he represents and he goes Marshall and Associates. And he asked for my phone and he goes “I do not have that number in my system”. Yeah, exactly! ‘And he continues on asking me “If I have been briefed” Briefed about what? Moron. Oh! you have a pending lawsuit on committing fraud for taking out 35 payday loans, the bank tried to collect but they can not take
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I also received a call from this fraud investigator but he named her morgan and she worked for the commonwealth of pa. Yeah right. He also said my debt was from 2008 from money and more and threatened me with 5 or 6 bogus charges. But what did you think I was looking for? My name was bc he knew unfortunately I have a misdemeanor record and tried to use that against me from when I was 18. These people really scare you into thinking you owe. The first time he called I got a payment about a year ago. Different person had called. It was a prepaid card thank God not my bank that I do not have the bank acct they reference anymore. I also live in pa and when I told him I knew it was a scam He said he could not wait to see me prosecuted. Nolegit company would talk like this. And the statute of limitation on debt is 4 years in fraud 2years my supposed loan was in 2008. As well as you tell them you know it’s a scam they flip. He told me I was gonna need a good attorney etc. If such charges were to be brought against someone I’m sure they would not wait 5 years. Still scared you when they call because you see what they are threatening to do to people. Do not understand how this happens to so many.
Even though there may not be a lot you can do about the call, it may be worthwhile to file a complaint with your state attorney general and with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
Thank you very much for this site and answer to me because after reading some people stories I called him back and ask more questions then told him that I would handle it in court that would not be getting any money from me and hung up about 1 hour later got another call from a different number saying that I would be receiving a summons for court these people are a big scam smh.
One big advice PEOPLE !! Try to avoid giving out your personal information. Avoid any suspicious telemarketing calls (they get your info) or sign any document at your doorstep … This decade is FULL of scammers … so DO NOT get cheated!
They ARE scams. Offshore scammers who threaten you and your family. I’m threatened to have my CIA brother in law “hellfire down on them and their families that they wish they were never born!” Taken from the scene where Tom Cruise talks to the terrorists in the movie ‘tropic Thunder ‘. I’m going to call them every day until eternity threatens them and their families with serious bodily harm and of course they will just disappear when the CIA catches up to them! Lol!
couple months ago stating that I had taken out a loan in Aug of 2012. They said they had papers for me and that I had to pay right away to avoid legal action. They gave me the bank account number and checking account number that the money was deposited in, had my social security number and knew where
I had a company contact me today and they said I have a furniture store I did not have an account with the company but they will not send me any documentation from there company and said if I do not pay in an hour a warrant will be released and I will be arrested I’m going to school and do not want to mess up my life so I should pay them
I was upset. I looked up Money & More online to see if there was a phone number that I could call to see if I could get more information since they were the ones I did business with. The website has no phone numbers. This to me is crazy. I had made a google search for Money and More when looking for their number. There are several forums and postings about scams to collect a debt from unsuspecting people. Most people are saying too that it was from 2008.
saying that I was paying in full etc. and then after I paid in full, I called the company that they said I had the loan with and they advised me that my loan was already paid in full a few months ago and said that the collectors were not associated with them. Boy, did I learn my lesson. What they are doing is taking your personal information from any possible attempt to take out a payday loan or if you have taken out a loan sometime. New trick is a company called FUNDEDPAYDAY.COM took an ACH payment out of the bank account for $ 14.95 and said that I filled out paper work asking them to find me payday loan for this fee. Unbelieveable, why would anyone pay a fee for someone to find them a loan, when we all know that we can get it for free. The next time you get any calls like this, do your homework and take down all info that you can from them. Tell them you want a copy of the original loan paper and when you take out the loan, the amount of the loan, the claim number etc … WE ARE HARD WORKING PEOPLE AND WE NEED TO START FIGHTING BACK.
In the end, if they can not answer your questions or validate the debt (in writing), it’s probably a scam. In which case you may not be able to do much about the call but you can report them to your local law enforcement, your state attorney general, and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. You may even want to inform the caller that you have taken these steps.
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Protections for servicemembers. There are special protections through the federal Military Lending Act (MLA) for active duty servicemembers and their dependents. These protections include a cap of 36 percent on the Military Annual Percentage Rate (MAPR) as well as other limitations on what lenders can pay for payday and other consumer loans. Contact your local Advocate General’s (JAG) office to learn more about lending restrictions. You can use the JAG Legal Assistance Office locator to find help.
Shulkin and Carson face the same problem: dubious use of taxpayer dollars in their duties as secretaries. They can console themselves knowing they are in good company. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has been caught in extravagant expenditures, too. Less heartening is the sixth example, Tom Price, who was unceremoniously forced out as secretary of health and human services in September 2017.
WERTH: The best example concerns a economist named Marc Fusaro at Arkansas Tech University. So, in 2011, he released a paper called “Do Payday Loans Trap Consumers in a Cycle of Debt?” And his answer was, basically, no, they do not.
You are doing all the right things, and it sounds like the calls you are receiving are not legitimate. Please do not give these companies any account numbers (credit card, debit or any other financial account). We’ve written about these scams before. This post may be useful (or reassuring) to you:
I got online immediately to look in my email for said correspondence. I found an email that I had initiated requesting information on how
I took a loan from Money and More in July 2008 and paid the loan back in Aug of 2008 with an electronic with drawl; by Money and More. I had the bank send me my bank records showing both of these trans shares however I was told that unless I had a letter from Money and More that this had been paid my bank records are useless. I have had many payday loans over the years and have never received a full payment from any of them but have always been able to contact them online to check my history can not do this with money and more and the only phone number I can find is not inserving 951-922-6286 who is the scammer ?????. The calls do not come every day they are about 1 or 2 weeks apart. guess I’ll just have to wait and see if they are doing papers on me they know a lot of my personal information as told them I would not send them my bank statements she then recited my bank account number from the account I had at that time has since changed accounts. I have asked for things in writing and have to recieve anything.
Same phone number only was a Tina, wanted to pay me $ 690.00 to pay off pay day, asked for the original bill said they didn; t have it, gave me 1 week then garnishment called my lawyer yet to hear back.
Crystal – It could be a scam or it could be a legitimate collection. They being detective sound suspect but to know for sure, you’ll need more information from them. For step-by-step instructions on how to deal with a collector when they call, this resource can help:
Turn the tables on them. You can report them to the FTC.gov. Give the FTC as many details as you can. If you have applied for a payday loan online in the past, you may need to include the name of that site in your complaint because your information was either sold or compromised and the FTC needs to know where these guys are getting personal information. That information will go into a database that is shared by law enforcement and other governmental agencies.
DeYoung also argues that most payday borrowers know exactly what they’re getting into when they sign up; that they’re not unwitting and desperate people who are being preyed on. He points to a key piece of research by Ronald Mann; That’s another co-author on the New York Fed blog post.
Now, we should say, that when you are an academic study of a particular industry, often the only way to get the data is from the industry itself. It’s a common practice. But, as Zinman noted in his paper, as the researcher you draw the line at letting the industry or industry advocates influence the findings. But as our producer Christopher Werth learned that it has not always been the case with payday-lending research and the Consumer Credit Research Foundation, or the CCRF.
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As for the other instance, I do not know whether you were scammed or not, but you can certainly do some research to find out whether the collection agency you paid was legitimate. In some states, they must be registered and
It sounds like it is likely you are being scammed. If you give them your bank account information please contact your bank immediately for advice. Please read: 9 Signs You Are Talking to Debt Collection Scammer
may want to return the call to get more information about the debt. Go into the situation with your eyes open, alert to the possibility that it could be a payday loan scam. To help you through the process, Credit.com offers a number of resources to deal with collectors, your debt collection rights, and steps for protecting yourself from scams. Before you make the call, be sure to read through the following resources so that you know your rights and what to expect from a “legitimate” collector:
Jessica – It sure sounds like a scam to me. Unfortunately you’re not going to get the money you paid back but hopefully you can stop further withdrawals. To be safe, talk with your bank, explain what happened and find out if you need to take other steps to protect yourself. Now that you’ve paid something they will probably be relentless in their efforts to get more money from you. I recommend you also read my article, 7 Ways to Stop Overseas Debt Collection Scam Calls.
As I opened the CT scan last week to read the next case, I was baffled. The history just read “gun wound.” I have been a radiologist in one of the busiest trauma centers in the United States for 13 years, and have diagnosed thousands of handgun injuries to the brain, lung, liver, spleen, bowel, and other vital organs. I thought that I knew all that I needed to know about gunballs, but the specific pattern of injury on my computer screen was one that I had seen only once before.
The ladies in the Killeen office are amazing! Hands down the most helpful and kind hearted. No questions asked I would recommend Mrs. Shank and his team ANY day. All my questions and concerns were handled with tact and consideration.
In May 2008, I took out a payday
Ann, I just got a call last week from the same phone number. A “Juan Hernandez” has called me saying I owed on a payday loan; that it was taken out in 2008 and when the company tried to collect in 2009, there were insufficient funds. They are threatening to suspend my driver’s license unless I pay them $ 300 within 48 hours – after that, it becomes $ 1400. I was so upset, I went to the bank and got all my bank statements from December 2008 to present. Nothing returned for insufficient funds. Mr. Hernandez just called me at work today and I’m about to call him back. What a scam – happy you did not fall for it!
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I’ve been getting phone messages from a place that calls themselves “fraud division” with a Nebraska number claiming that it had taken out a loan in 2013 (which I have not), they claim that if I did not come up with 1169.50 of which I had to pay half today that they were going to forward the
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Thanks so much for doing this. You have proven you are an honorable person and no one will blame you. Everyone needs a job but you were brave enough to quit when you found out they were immoral. You have been very helpful!
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