serve me papers. She lives in Chicago and I live in southern Illinois. I called to see what was going on just to find out it’s a bill I’ve already paid off. The person on the phone told me that my account was just sold to them and they hired a locator to find me to serve me papers. They did not want to serve me at work. I told her it was paid off in July and she said I had to get a “Pay in Full” letter from the collector and they would drop it. I called Asset Management and they are sending me a letter. Asset gave me the corporate number for The Cash Store, I called and was told it was fraud and to stop all contact with this company. I’m still going to send in my “pay in full” letter but if I get anything from BOR again I’m going to go after them for violations of the law. This is ridiculous. I keep good records of all my payments and debts (I’ve had many over the years), I know a lot of people do not. They would have just paid them.
I had something similiar happen to me today. They called my uncle cell phone and left him a message. They guy said his name was London Dupree from a check check investigation unit and said a case number. (334) 578-0706. I called them back and when I started asking for what was from he said that he needed to give me to a supervisor. The woman I was very rude and her name was Jennifer Wright. She said I had a payday loan from 2008 that was online and it was defaulted because my bank account did not cover it. She said that if I do not make a payment of $ 1904.72 that I would be up for 4 felony’s and that I would be arrested in 48 hours. I told the woman that I was never notified of this and that I need her to send me paperwork stating this. She said unfortunatly she could not do this because the paperwork is to be used against me and that I can only see it when it is presented to court. I told her I did not have the money. Help !!! Is this a scam …
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Ron – You sure should report this to your local law enforcement. There may not be a whole lot you can do but it’s important to file a complaint. (You can also file a complaint with your state attorney general and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.)
said it is called [redacted]. They state I took a short-term loan before 2010 and they are a third party trying to get the back back. When I ask her to send me something and tell her I do not see anything on my credit report she says it’s because they have not filed anything yet it has not impacted my credit yet. I told her she had to send me something in writing and she refused. So I got a little rude with her and started asking questions and she hung up on me. I did a little research and many people had the same experience so I blocked the numbers they gave, called id showed [redacted] and the call back on voicemail was [redacted]. They then started calling my mother and sister. I have made complaints to the FCC, attorney general, the donotcall.gov and BBB. How else can I make these calls stop? It’s frustrating !!!
DEYOUNG: Studies that have looked at this have found that once you control for the demographics and income levels in these areas and these communities, the racial characteristics no longer drive the location decisions. As you can expect, business people do not care what color their customers are, as long as their money’s green.
I received a call today from 888-958-3653 from a guy named mark saying I took out a payday loan back in 2007 and i owed $ 425.00 said I had to pay in full by oct 31st or will be sued or my salary garnished i asked for their mailing address and he refused to five it to me and i asked if they could send me documentation in the mail and he said they were strictly a paperless company he said i had to give him my credit card before they could send me any information so you can not say he did not get my credit card info, the company is westwood mediation
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I received a voice mail today from some guy who identified herself as a “Carl Thomas”. He never told me who he was with or what his business was. He gave me a claim number and said that he had a pending wage garnishment order and a motion to suspend my drivers license. He left a number (877-601-5861 x261) I called the number to meet the guy but the number he gave was not a working number. So I called the number that appeared on my caller ID. A woman answered only by saying “what extension please”. What number did I call and she answered “an answer service”. So I gave the extension. I was connected with “Carl Thomas” and I advised him that I had received a message for someone and that the information he left on the voice was illegal by law debt collection. Carl Thomas got real mad real quick and told me I did not have to tell him how to do his “F # $ King job” and that if I did not give him the god * & am file number that I could go to hell and shove it. So after he hung up on me I called the answer service back and they advised me that it was a company called PDLR with a PO Box in Aurora, Illinois. The number to the “answer service” is 603-486-1900. Hope this helps.
You can request a written verification of the debt if they call again to help determine whether you are dealing with a debt collector or a scammer. You can also contact your state attorney general and monitor your credit reports for signs of identity theft.
I received a call yesterday from a law office stating that they were going to have me arrested for fraud and theft for not paying a payday loan. They said that it had been over 21 days since I made a payment and that if I wanted to go out of court that all I needed to do was put $ 385 on a green dot moneypak card by today. I have taken out two payday loans just recently and just had my first payment due on Friday which I paid. The number that they are calling from is 401-648-7325 by Lisa Green. She also said that the money had been deposited in my account and when they tried to pay out they were not able to. They also did not give me information on when the deposit took place and what company the payday loan was through. This sounds like a lot of the other posts that I have read but I do not want to take the chance of being arrested … what do I do ??
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wow. That’s disgusting, especially towards your daughter. I’d have told them “odd, I’ve already talked to my county sheriff about this, so PLEASE some over here because he really wants to meet you too! Oh, all of this is recorded and will be given to my Sheriff this afternoon while we’re sitting around waiting
Just to be clear, these are not collectors trying to collect legitimate debts. Most of the complaints on our forums, and to the AG AG include consumers who have never taken a payday loan, or who may have initiated one but never actually secured the loan. In some cases, the “collector” has detailed information about the victim – such as name, address and social security number – which makes the debt appear to be real.
Have been receiving calls for about a month from John Ryan at the AR Group, leaving VM’s saying they are getting ready to file 2 legal documents against me, and to call back at 888-543-9421 ext 303 about the matter, also leaving a reference number. Today he calls and leaves the same message and says that they are filing the legal documents today and that I need to call back. Repeatedly when I try to call back the message that the “call source number is no longer in service”, including a number of times today. The call originally came from 800-533-9421 which is totally different contact when I call. Last year I mistakenly accepted a online payday loan that started a nightmare in my life for $ 200, and do not know if this is a connected issue. Earlier this year I was getting calls from a woman from TYCOLIFTS who gave documentation to about the transaction, and when pressured to pay, she said she would accept a 3 commitment commitment by providing her a valid card number that could be a prepaid card . I did so and the first payment was deducted, then I lost my job and could no longer make payments. She told me that she would not be able to keep the account from legal action, and did not hear
Anyone ever heard of Peter Shapiro or the Shapiro Agency? Telephone 877-723-4711. This ‘person’ has called two of my family members today and told them his agency was conducting a criminal investigation of me and needed a character statement. I’m sure this is the same as those who harassed me about a payday loan from 2006 to the point where I changed my cell phone number over a year ago. They were threatening criminal action then. My daughter asked if she was a debt collector and was told no. She looked them up on the internet and found, yes, they were collectors (of some sort). Now I have been paying my Chapter 13 for 50 months now with 4 more months to go. Any bill I owed is included in that bankruptcy. So you can believe this makes me furious! I’ve tried to call the number but I’m told to hold for Pete Shapiro and then asked to leave a voice message. I want to talk to this thing to voice. Any suggestions on who and how to complain about this thing?
I worked. I got all the information from the lady (who at the point was very nice and helpful). I then contacted my bank and requested bank statements for August and had no deposit from any other than my employer in my account. My bank told me it was a scam and not to worry about it. A couple of days later they called back for the money to avoid legal action. I told them I had bank statements
I received a call from [redacted] indicating that she had an order to complete about the charges for distribution of fraudulant text related to the social security number and provided she would be serving these documents to me at my home address. address] today and if service could not be made they would contact my employer and inform them that service would take place at their premises. She said if I had any questions or wanted to set an alternative service to contact the complainant’s attorney at [redacted]. I work at an attorney’s office so I brought this to the attention of an attorney in our office. He called the number, and identified himself as my attorney. The gentleman was very rude and said he could not discuss it with him without a letter of recommendation and that when I received the papers I could bring them to the attorney to review. When he said I was present and would like to ask what was about he still refused to give any information and again said to wait for the papers to be served. My attorney asked him if he was familiar with the fair debt practice act and the gentleman said it was not about a debt. I later called him back if he could please let me know what was all about and he again refused because he says I have a counsel, though he previously refused to tell my attorney any information because there was no letter of representation. The man was very rude and hung up on me. I called back and again asked to please be given any information about the issue, he said he could give me information but was choosing not to and again hung up on me. I called back and said it was a policy to not discuss the matter if I am represented by the counsel. I asked if their company [redacted] was the one suing me or someone else and he said it was them. I asked if he could please at least tell me what court was being filed in. After a very exasperated sigh and some computer typing, he said it was being filed in [county I lived in 8 years ago] through the office of [provided the name of prosecuting attorney for that office]. I then called that prosecuting attorney’s office and let them know about the call and asked if they had any cases with my name, which they did not have and suggested that maybe it was a civil case. I then called the circuit clerk’s office and again told them the situation and asked if anything had been filed with my name and they had nothing. After bringing this information back to my attorney he said it was very likely to scam and to inform the Attorney General’s office. I called and gave the Attorney General’s office all the information and was again told that it was very likely a scam. I suppose we will see if I have anything to do in the next few days …
DUBNER: Obviously the history of lending is long and often, at least in my reading, tied to religion. There is a prohibition against it in Deuteronomy and elsewhere in the Old Testament. It’s in the New Testament. In Shakespeare, the Merchant of Venice was not the hero. So, do you think that the general view of this kind of lending is colored by an emotional or moral argument too much at the expense of an economic and practical argument?
call from Niagra Capital Services Inc. About a loan from 2010 when I lived in New Jersey. He said he has a legal complaint about me. He has my new phone number, where I used to work as well as my new address in a different state. He said with interest I owe about $ 1,500, but will settle for $ 560. I asked him to email me the info, (since he has my email address) I have taken the name of the payday loan company that I took out the loan with. I remember that I paid hundreds of over what I borrowed. I emailed him back and asked for the original paperwork associated with the loan. I did some research and found that payday loans are illegal in the state of New Jersey. It’s been over 4 years. What can I do?
While it may not be possible to stop these scams (they are typically coming from overseas and may be out of reach of US law enforcement), US lawmakers have to try to stop them at the source. They need to crack down on the websites where consumers are entering their personal information that is then compromised.
saying that I was paying in full etc. and then after I paid in full, I called the company that they said I had the loan with and they advised me that my loan was already paid in full a few months ago and said that the collectors were not associated with them. Boy, did I learn my lesson. What they are doing is taking your personal information from any possible attempt to take out a payday loan or if you have taken out a loan sometime. New trick is a company called FUNDEDPAYDAY.COM took an ACH payment out of the bank account for $ 14.95 and said that I filled out paper work asking them to find me payday loan for this fee. Unbelieveable, why would anyone pay a fee for someone to find them a loan, when we all know that we can get it for free. The next time you get any calls like this, do your homework and take down all info that you can from them. Tell them you want a copy of the original loan paper and when you take out the loan, the amount of the loan, the claim number etc … WE ARE HARD WORKING PEOPLE AND WE NEED TO START FIGHTING BACK.
consumers, is going too far. Under the plan it is now considering, lenders would have to make sure that borrowers can repay their loans and cover other living expenses without extensive defaults or reborrowing. These actions would really seem to curtail the possibility of people falling into debt traps with payday lenders. But the industry argues that the rules would be put out of business. And while a self-serving howl of pain is precisely what you would expect from any industry under government fire, this appears, based on the business model, to be true-not only would the regulations eliminate the very loans from which the industry makes its money, but they would also introduce significant new underwriting costs on every loan.
It starts like this: “Except for the ten to twelve million people who use them every year, just about everybody hates payday loans. Their detractors include many law professors, consumer advocates, members of the clergy, journalists, policymakers, and even the President! But is all the enmity justified? ”
FULMER: If you associate the cost of paying our rent to our local owners, paying our light bill and electrical fees, paying our other fees to local merchants who provide services to us, we operate on a relatively thin margin.
What exactly did your son receive in the mail? It sounds like if your advice is wise. It’s also a good idea for your son to check his credit reports to see if there are any accounts he does not recognize and to dispute any errors. Here are a couple of resources that may be useful:
The Illinois Attorney General’s Office says the bogus debt collectors have heard about using various names, including: Morgan & Associates, Federal Bureau of Investigators, DNR Recovery, DNI Recovery, Legal Accounts Association, Department of Law and Enforcement, CashNet USA , American Legal Services, Quick Cash, and ACS. If you hear from any of these companies, be sure to report them immediately to your state Attorney General’s office and the Federal Trade Commission
Does anyone have an address for these companies? I have been contacted by The Law Offices of Jeffrey Abate, Cashnet, and today the Department of Legal Services. When I asked for an address to validate the debt I was hung up on. I’ve been harassed for months now with calls to work, home and my cell phone. When I asked to not call my work I was told too bad. Which yes I know is against the law. I have filed reports with the FTC and the AG in Washington State with no luck because I do not have an address! HELP!
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Hello I hope someone can help me please. I received A call from a guy saying he’s from Empire Mediation & Arbitration Service LLC. That they are taking me to court for defaulting on a payday loan with check n go. That I’m going to face a judge and there’s asking 2815 but if I pay today they’re willing to settle for 412.50. Originally my loan was 255.00. witch I got in 2008. I told them to send me a validation debut letter he said I can email you a settlement letter that they supposedly sent me a while ago. They had my old address But I never got anything because my mom lives there. So there is a saying that I’m going to get served with court papers and I have to face a judge also they want 2,815.00 for fees. Does this sound right please help. I called check n go they said they sold my case in 2009 and they have nothing to do with my case no more and that they are not suing me But they do not know who else has my case since the company they sell it too went out of business. Please help I must pay the 412.50. I do not work or have the money sine I take acre of my daughter who had cancer. Thank you
No need to panic. Debt collectors do not pick people up at home or work because they can not pay their bills. Ask them to send you a written notice of the debt that is required under federal law. (By mail, not email.) If they say they can not, then you’re dealing with a scammer. If so, then read my article 7 Ways to Stop Overseas Debt Collection Scam Calls and turn the tables on them!
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I just got a call from a very similar number- 855-216-1354. Having worked at a telephone company, it’s a good chance these numbers belong to the same company (only the last two digits are different). But, the company that called me was the Office of Progressive (??) saying my name was on some legal documents in his office. Tried calling back and the message kept looping.
This is a common tactic that is used to scare you into pay without questioning the validity of the debt. There are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
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Thanks for sharing, Brooke. It always amazes us with some of the threats and claims these guys make: “Somebody would be here Friday at 11:00 a.m. to take me to California for my court on Monday at 11:00 pm “So, they’ll pick you up, drive or fly you to California for court, and put you up in a hotel for two nights while you wait for your short date on Monday? I’m almost speechless.
Stacy – do not pay anything unless you’re sure it’s a legitimate debt. Under the FDCPA, collectors are legally obliged to provide proof of the debt. Having said this, within 5 days of contacting you by phone, they must send you a notification of their attempt to collect. In that notice, they have to inform you of your right to have the validated debt. You have thirty days to do this and it must be done in writing. If they can not validate the debt, you can not legally collect. With that said, we strongly encourage you to read through the following two resources, at least make sure you know your rights and take the appropriate steps forward:
I know he’s a scam artist but he and his threats have got into my dad’s head and he’s stressing. I am sick of it. I filed a complaint with the CFPB but I wish the constant threats would stop. Is there any way to speed this up to get harassment to stop?
This is a standard procedure when dealing with any debt collector and by law, the collector must comply with this request. If they refuse, they are breaking the law under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and have no right to continue to try to collect. In fact, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, if a collector contacts you by phone they have 5 days in which to send you formal written notice that you owe the debt. The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and your right to dispute the debt, in writing, within 30 days of receipt of the notice.
going to be sent to court for “fraud” and continued to talk and talk and talk. But as I listened to her, I caught her in many lies. And on top of that she did not sound professional at all and kept repeating my name over and over trying to break me down. Then I asked to talk to the supervisor and she said, “I’m so scam” and I said, “I heard her whispering to someone else and then she came back on the phone and I told you that they are not a scam and I replied with “I can talk to your supervisor” and then she put me on “Hold” then I heard the phone being held up to a speaker so I could hear “elevator” music while I was being “transferred” to the supervisor. She finally transferred me to this guy saying that I could pay her with a gift card instead. I just said “I’ll think about if I want to pay you scam artists or not” then I hung up. Since then, I’ve gotten nothing.
I had a similar call last week claiming I defaulted on a PDL from 2008 which I took out and also did pay back in full when it was due. They are threatening me with court and possible criminal prosecution for cheating fraud. The name of the person who called was Timothy and he was calling from something called ADR firm at behalf of his client. He said the client is BG Capital Associates and that they bought the debt from Money and More (who is the company I had the PDL through back in 2008. The phone # they called from and also had me back was 716-748-6566 and 716-748-6519. Has anybody heard of these people or had similar experience?
DeYOUNG: Borrowing money is like renting money. You have to use it for a few weeks. You could rent a car for two weeks, right? You get to use that car. Well, if you calculate the annual percentage rate on that car rental – that means that you divide the amount you pay on that car by the value of that automobile – you get similarly high rates. So this is not about interest. This is about short-term use of a product that’s been lent to you. This is just arithmetic.
By the way, you can not be arrested just because you can not afford to pay a debt. (Warning, however, there are cases where consumers are jailed in connection with debts because they failed to appear in court after a summary was issued.)
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