By the way, you can not be arrested just because you can not afford to pay a debt. (Warning, however, there are cases where consumers are jailed in connection with debts because they failed to appear in court after a summary was issued.)
There is no surefire way to stop them other than to use some kind of call screening service where only calls you approve go through. You can get some ideas from this piece I wrote: http:
I just got a call stating that i was for fees for payday loan company, it really freaked me out because the message left on my answer machine said something about restraining order and they used my maiden name so I called the number left on my machine It was 813-217-5283 I asked for Tina Charles the woman who left her name I got this guy and he said well the loan company that found the lenders got a fee and that’s what i defaulted on i told him i did not see that in any of the sites and he said that sounds ridicules I told him you sound ridicules and then i yelled goodbye and hung up. I would not have given them any money any way but still it freaked me out
That does sound sound, does not it? A typical credit card rate is around 15 percent, maybe 20 or higher if you have bad credit. But to the payday-loan industry, a proposal of 36 percent is not reasonable at all.
Creditors are required to provide written verification of a debt within five days of contacting you. They also do not make threats they do not intend to keep – like filing charges. You can find more about your debt collection here:
I was contacted by a guy who claims to be with a lawyer firm. He said that charges were filed against me for taking out a payday loan online. It’s against the law in the state of “North Carolina” at the time I did not know this. When I asked who filed charges against me he mentioned the Social Security Commissioner, the Federal Credit Commission and the Attorney General Office. I called all these offices and they all said it sounds like a scam so I gave all the info I have. He told me if I settled out of court I would pay $ 600.00 and if I went to court I could pay $ 1000.00 … he also said I could be arrested. The loans I took out I paid them every month, the Attorney General told me not to worry but this man keeps calling me.
I am receiving threatening call from 877-673-8289, they left a message but also spoke with my father at my house. On the message they guy talk so fast but I think the name is Darrell Hines. He tried to say he was a court processor and that they were coming to my house and working to server me papers for check fraud and he also told my father this on the phone. In the message the only number given is the one above and that is for “Payday Solutions” which I found out when I returned the call. They later called back and asked for my daughter by name. I plan to follow through with this company and the company at the FTC and the Texas Attorney General’s office.
The fact that they have your information means absolutely nothing. That information is often bought and sold. Sounds like it is very likely a scam. Again, insist on written confirmation (by mail) as required by law. If they do not send it then you have confirmed what you’re dealing with.
has been slammed with an unexpected bill and no cash on hand to cover it. If you ignore the expense, things may only get worse. But your next paycheck is still a long way away.
In a vicious cycle, the higher the permitted fees, the more stores, the lesser customers each store serves, so the higher the fees need to be. Competition, in other words, does reduce profits to lenders, as expected – but it seems to carry no benefit to consumers, at least as measured by the rates they are charged. (The old loan sharks may have been able to charge lower rates because of lower overhead, although it’s impossible to know.) Mayer thinks the explanation may have more to do with the differences in the customer base: Because alternative alternatives were sparse back then, these lenders served a more diverse and overall more creditworthy set of borrowers, so default rates were likely lower.)
Some guy named [redacted] keeps emailing me that i need to pay $ 1200 by friday or i will go to jail. The money for a debit collector but he will not tell which company it is. And he wants the money by friday but he only emails me. He will call me the company that pay day loans from
Do not let one of these companies scare you into making payments if you’re not sure you owe the debt. In most cases, collectors must first take you to court and get a judgment before they can go after your pay or property.
Have been receiving calls for about a month from John Ryan at the AR Group, leaving VM’s saying they are getting ready to file 2 legal documents against me, and to call back at 888-543-9421 ext 303 about the matter, also leaving a reference number. Today he calls and leaves the same message and says that they are filing the legal documents today and that I need to call back. Repeatedly when I try to call back the message that the “call source number is no longer in service”, including a number of times today. The call originally came from 800-533-9421 which is totally different contact when I call. Last year I mistakenly accepted a online payday loan that started a nightmare in my life for $ 200, and do not know if this is a connected issue. Earlier this year I was getting calls from a woman from TYCOLIFTS who gave documentation to about the transaction, and when pressured to pay, she said she would accept a 3 commitment commitment by providing her a valid card number that could be a prepaid card . I did so and the first payment was deducted, then I lost my job and could no longer make payments. She told me that she would not be able to keep the account from legal action, and did not hear
I got a call yesterday from a company called PDLR. This woman’s name was ms. ingram and she did not have an accent like a lot of the companies sited here. She said she was trying to settle a payday loan that I supposedly did not pay before they starte wage garnishments. She could not tell me who the original loan was with-said they were not a collection agency but that the original company did not send paerwork to me that was returned when I requested proof of the debt. The number they called from was 630-844-5678. Neither the company name or phone number popped up when i googled, but this is clearly a scam. I called back the number and the same person answered, but she did not identify a company. As far as I’m concerned, they can pound salt.
better thanks for educating me on this scam.
I’ve been getting these calls. They are also calling my job that I did not have at the time of this alleged loan. I do not want this to affect my job. They’ve called back to back and would not say who they are with and would not agree to send me a letter, saying they have sent several email. There is a call coming through right now while I’m writing this from 1243521256 and yes that’s all of the numbers … eh caller fraud ID as well. What is the name of Vaness? and gave a call back from 650-835 – ???? number. Omg! I am about to file a police report and open a FTC Case in my state.
I was receiving threatening calls from someone claiming to be from the Attourney General’s office. Stating that because of a past due credit that they were going to have the authorities pick me up at my place of work and have me arrested. They asked to pay them $ 120 of the $ 500 that I owed them in order for them to hold off on calling the authorites. I have got past due loans and they verified my email address and home address and the company i worked for. I thought it might have been for real, they wanted me to go to the walgreens and pick up a prepaid card in order to make the payment to them. I was going to send them the money but after talking to one of the lawyers within the company I worked for they advised me that this was a scam call trying to get money out of me. Especially since no prio documentation was provided and they refused to provide any documents until I made a payment. The numbers they were calling from were 951-878-0689, and 951-708-1208. I looked up the
And if you are sued by a creditor or collection agency, they must serve you with a notice of the lawsuit (this is usually referred to as a “summons and complaint”). They sue you for the debt; “Filing with the clerk of court for fraud by deception,” is meaningless.
It starts like this: “Except for the ten to twelve million people who use them every year, just about everybody hates payday loans. Their detractors include many law professors, consumer advocates, members of the clergy, journalists, policymakers, and even the President! But is all the enmity justified? ”
No, debtors are not allowed to threaten you. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is now taking complaints about collection practices. You can file one here:
Hello I just recently about a week ago I started receiving a call from a collection agency TRADEMARK MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS in relation to a payday loan that I have to pay on and YES I know that i have a bill but there are tats are freakin nuts … is what was on my answer service … This message is for XX. My name is Theresa Coleman. I’m calling about fax order that I received in my office today in relation to some bad checks you’ve written. You have a chance to contact the complainant and resolve this matter before further action is taken. The complainant may be reached at their corporate office number 877-285-3841and you can refer to your case number ###. XX you have officially been notified. ”
MANN: The data really suggests that there is a relatively small group of borrowers, in the range of 10 to 15 percent, who have been extremely heavy users, whose predictions are really bad. And I think that group of people seems to fundamentally not understand their financial situation.
Joseph – You may want to alert your employer. This scam is well documented from many sources so hopefully your employer would be understanding if you explained that you are being targeted by a scammer.
If these are legitimate collectors then they will stop calling at work once they are instructed by you to do so. That’s federal law
I just got a call from a very similar number- 855-216-1354. Having worked at a telephone company, it’s a good chance these numbers belong to the same company (only the last two digits are different). But, the company that called me was the Office of Progressive (??) saying my name was on some legal documents in his office. Tried calling back and the message kept looping.
he was not allowed to do that since I was at a negative I told him it would go thru, so I told him I would give him my daughters debit card number she had the money and she said it was to be under my name so he told me to get a cash pak (green dot) and call him back with the number on the back. I did that and have to pay another 200 on the 16th and then the other 200.00 next month because he took 300.00 off the original price I owed. I paid the $ 100 because I was scared and did not want my husband to go to jail but I told him I wanted paperwork sent to me and he said he would send it when it was paid off but he would send me a redirect to my email and I have not got it yet. I wish I knew he was really with the Federal Crime Dept like he said he is or if he is a fraud. Cause I do not want to give him anymore but I do not want my husband to go to jail. I know we got a loan thru them but it was supposed to come out of our acct everydayday but he said they tried and it was not taken out due to insufficient funds but I can not remember wheather it was paid off or not. Does anyone know a site I can look under to see if this is fraud? Please HELP
WERTH: The best example concerns a economist named Marc Fusaro at Arkansas Tech University. So, in 2011, he released a paper called “Do Payday Loans Trap Consumers in a Cycle of Debt?” And his answer was, basically, no, they do not.
If you are being sued for a debt, you may be served. But they’re not going to just “haul you to jail” just because you can not pay a debt. My suggestion? Ask for written verification of the debt you are entitled to by law. They will not possibly send it.
DeYOUNG: Well, in a short sentence that’s very scientific I would start by saying, “Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.” The question comes down to how we identify the water here and how do we identify the baby here. One way is to collect a lot of information, as the CFPB suggests, about the creditworthiness of the borrower. But that brings up production cost of payday loans and will probably put the industry out of business. But I think we can all agree that once someone pays a fee in an aggregate amount equal to the amount that was originally borrowed, that’s pretty clear that there’s a problem there.
summon at an address I did not live at for 8 years .. When I asked for proof of the original debt, she put me on hold … I waited for a 1
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Ana – Do not pay a penny until you verify this is definitely a legitimate debt. Ask them to send you a written notice of the debt by mail (not email or fax). This is your right under federal law. If they refuse to call Fraud.org for advice as it’s probably a scam.
was fishy and it was a scam this guy was rude threating and harassing me to pay $ 920 i want to find this guy and charge him with threatening and harassment and i know i can tell if anyone has the same problem or is sueing him please and thank you
Call went to my MIL’s house. Phone number was 877-334-5288. Said they needed me to call before 5 p.m. I called them, they started the whole laughter about I had an old payday loan and was going to be charged with frud, malicious intent, etc. I stopped the guy and asked for his company name and address and he hung up on me. LOL Think I’m going to call back and try again for the hell of it.
Oh and they said it was for a payday loan, the lender was American Credit Services. When I said I never got a payday loan, he said he did not care where the money went but stealing it if I do not pay it back.
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MARC FUSARO: The Consumer Credit Research Foundation and I had an interest in the paper being as clear as possible. And if anyone, including Hilary Miller, would take a paragraph that I had written and re-wrote it in a way that made what I was trying to say more clearly, I’m happy for that kind of advice. I’ve taken papers to the university writing center before and they’ve helped me make my writing more clear. And there’s nothing scandalous about that, at all. I mean the results of the paper have never been called into question. Nobody had suggested I changed any other results or anything like that based on any comments from anybody. Frankly, I think this is much ado about nothing.
DEYOUNG: That’s a very standard disclaimer. The Federal Reserve System is a unique alternative to regulators across the world. They see the value in having their researchers exercise science and academic freedom because they know that inquiry is a good thing.
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Sorry you let fear overtake your good judgment. You can report it to your state attorney general or you can try filing a report with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. However, many of these operations are based outside the U.S. and can be hard to track. And next time – and hopefully there will be no one – keep in mind that you have rights that should be respected.
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Race Matters: The Concentration of Payday Lenders in North Carolina, by Uriah King, Wei Li, Delvin Davis and Keith Ernst, The Center for Responsible Lending (March, 2005).
couple months ago stating that I had taken out a loan in Aug of 2012. They said they had papers for me and that I had to pay right away to avoid legal action. They gave me the bank account number and checking account number that the money was deposited in, had my social security number and knew where
I googled both numbers but nothing comes up, not even as fraudulent number, so they may be newer numbers. That’s why I wanted to post this in case someone else googles those numbers. She did not disclose any specific information about the charges, did not say it was a debt collection or anything. Did not state the company she works for or the name of the “firm” I’m supposed to call.
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