I was upset. I looked up Money & More online to see if there was a phone number that I could call to see if I could get more information since they were the ones I did business with. The website has no phone numbers. This to me is crazy. I had made a google search for Money and More when looking for their number. There are several forums and postings about scams to collect a debt from unsuspecting people. Most people are saying too that it was from 2008.
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DEYOUNG: Studies that have looked at this have found that once you control for the demographics and income levels in these areas and these communities, the racial characteristics no longer drive the location decisions. As you can expect, business people do not care what color their customers are, as long as their money’s green.
DUBNER: Obviously the history of lending is long and often, at least in my reading, tied to religion. There is a prohibition against it in Deuteronomy and elsewhere in the Old Testament. It’s in the New Testament. In Shakespeare, the Merchant of Venice was not the hero. So, do you think that the general view of this kind of lending is colored by an emotional or moral argument too much at the expense of an economic and practical argument?
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Most of these scammers are hard to track, and if they are in other countries it makes it even more difficult. However, you may want to try filing a police report, and then file a complaint with the CFPB at consumerfinance.gov.
No, debtors are not allowed to threaten you. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is now taking complaints about collection practices. You can file one here:
My husband and I filed bankruptcy due to unforeseen circumstances and we had an outstanding payday loan. My attorney explained to us that a payday loan is treated as an unsecured debt and would file the papers and there was no need to worry about this because it would be included in the bankruptcy as unsecured. Needless to say I got a very dangerous call from a company called US Capital Management (855) 596-0411. They said they represented MYMONEYCHEST.com and they would see us in court for a balance. I asked the woman to contact my attorney and they said they could not because they are just the middle man in this. I told her if there is a balance and we are currently in a bankruptcy, there should be no reason they could not reach out to our attorney. I called my attorney and he said to have them call him. They will not! They told me that they were going to serve me papers at my job. Is this possible? Can they do that? I can not get them to give me any paperwork about this balance owed.
There are several things wrong here, but the fact that your mother in law is having long conversations about your debts with the collector that’s calling. This is a violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. Collectors are not allowed to discuss their reason for calling or sharing details about your debt with anyone other than you (or your spouse). Divorce tends to bring out the worst in some and it sounds like your going to be one of them.
Thank you, I’m not sure the investigator called the house number and when I called the agency that is statewide mediation they said I should not see why a sheriff would come to my house over a debt owed
Do not give them access to your checking account, they will clean you out. Instead send in a check or MO by CMRRR. No offer letter, no check and get off the phone. They want money from you they will send it. And do not be intimidated by that favorite phrase of theirs that they will record “refusal to pay” against you. Big deal, bite my ankle. It means squat and has no legal standing at all.
I did, however, take out a payday loan from a company named Cash Web, who promptly sold my info to a company called Hydra Loans. Perfect name as they had dozens of other such businesses. They put money in my account, though I never saw a contract or signed a thing; not even a phone call I paid them back the principle immediately but they still tried to get money out of my account (not even on paydays though they claim I applied for the loan and spoke to someone on the phone to set it up). I had to close my account and open a new one to stop them. Now, years later I’ll get these calls or letters, but nothing will ever happen. I ignore them, but if I had the time and money, I would love to get them I to court.
I can not tell from what you are writing whether it’s a very aggressive debt collector, but remember the debt collectors must follow federal law (and often state laws) that prohibits harassment and false statements.
I just dealt with ACS. They have been hounding me for a couple of weeks trying to get me a total of $ 625. One person calls immediately to the “supervisor”, Denis Petersen. They even faxed and emailed me to complete (completely bogus) to authorize a credit card only payment plan. When the first payment came, they became very aggressive, calling my cell phone over a dozen times in a row in one instance. Today they called my primary job (hospital ER) yelled at a nurse and called her a stupid bitch, my coworkers rightly freaked and went to my manager who called me. I assured her that people were scammers and told her I would immediately call the FTC and states the attorney’s office, which I did. I also had her apologize to my coworkers. I was so upset, I was shaking. I called ACS and confronted Denis Petersen, who had been the fake supervisor bullying these payments. He told me he could call me the same things and hung up when I said his behavior was illegal. I then received two calls on my cell. I call back and say stop calling my cell. This Denis Peterson goes to the person who called me “Why did you call her cell, I told you to call her work so she loses her job!” I just
was surprised that I was not served. The guy said if I got served he could not help me. He said I wrote the check in 2007 and the client wants to take me to court for $ 5408 which is 4 years of interest. I think it’s a scam. I do not remember the name of the company. Is this most likely a scam? He only asked for my last 4 numbers of my Social security number ..
I also received a call from this fraud investigator but he named her morgan and she worked for the commonwealth of pa. Yeah right. He also said my debt was from 2008 from money and more and threatened me with 5 or 6 bogus charges. But what did you think I was looking for? My name was bc he knew unfortunately I have a misdemeanor record and tried to use that against me from when I was 18. These people really scare you into thinking you owe. The first time he called I got a payment about a year ago. Different person had called. It was a prepaid card thank God not my bank that I do not have the bank acct they reference anymore. I also live in pa and when I told him I knew it was a scam He said he could not wait to see me prosecuted. Nolegit company would talk like this. And the statute of limitation on debt is 4 years in fraud 2years my supposed loan was in 2008. As well as you tell them you know it’s a scam they flip. He told me I was gonna need a good attorney etc. If such charges were to be brought against someone I’m sure they would not wait 5 years. Still scared you when they call because you see what they are threatening to do to people. Do not understand how this happens to so many.
CHRISTOPHER WERTH: Right. Well, it’s a non-profit watchdog, relatively new organization. Its mission is to expose corporate and political misconduct, primarily by using open-record applications, such as the Freedom of Information Act or FOIA applications, to produce evidence.
I was contacted by someone at my work number saying they are from Quick Cash who bought a debt from Cash Call saying they are coming to my work in an hour. I asked for their phone number and they would not give it to me. Just that if I did not pay over $ 1,000 today, they were coming to my work. They would not give me any information. Sounded like a call center. They said they had a case against me in the county where I live. Well, I work for a firm firm and look up online to see, there are no cases against me. How do I get them to stop when I have no phone number or information? Thank you!
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I do not know what to do with my phone. I’m sorry, I do not know what to do. How did this person get my phone number I called the 877 number and this, guy said I had a case for fraud with cash net and that I had to make arrangements or there would be a sheriff at my house within 45 minutes to summon me for the debt obviously i freaked out i did not want to go to jail they had my social address all of my information so i made arrangements with them i would like to know i was scammed? Please help I’m about to go in the Navy I do not need any problems with the law!
The Military Lending Act Five Years Later: The High-Cost Small Dollar Loan Market, and the Campaign against Predatory Lending, by Jean Ann Fox, Consumer Federation of America (May, 2012).
said that if I agree to make three payments to settle the debt they would not take me to court. I agreed and made the first two payment, now I have a single payment and I do not have the money until next time I get paid which is a week from the due date. I tried to call the company that is taking the money out of my account to see if they would work with me and take the money out when i have it but i have to leave a message due to “high call volume” but never recieved a call back. My question is they can still take me to court and what’s the hood of them doing this?
We are working on some of our payday loans clients and they are getting these same calls. One of the customers were scared in paying them until I looked it up. They said they were from payday loan recovery group. Saying she owed a loan from 2008 for 1,200 and she could pay it in full for $ 399. She was scared in paying but I told her to cancel her creid card before it went through. They send her an invoice on the decline. The processing company is http:
I received a phone call today from an “investigator” stating that there is an investigation on me that I have to give a verbal statement. I called the woman back and she gave me this talk about it’s because of a unpaid payday loan from like 2007. I told her it was not on my credit report and asked why. She replied because “the US federal government is holding your ssn and that it would not show up anyway because it was an open case” (the open case thing is false I know, just checked my credit report again, there’s open things on there ….)
Have you pulled your credit reports yet? If there was an unpaid balance from the payday loan you took out a while back, it could have been sent to the collections and increased interest interest over the years. If the account is in the collections or it is the result of a judgment against you and it has been reported to the credit bureau, it will appear on your credit report. You can get free copies of your credit report from each of the major credit reporting agencies at AnnualCreditReport.com. Keep us posted on what you find out!
DIANE STANDAERT: From the data we’ve seen, payday loans are disproportionately concentrated in African-American and Latino communities, and that African-American and Latino borrowers are disproportionately represented among the borrowing population.
This money, still no amount was disclosed, he just wanted my attorneys name because I had felony criminal charges against a very serious matter. Again I asked for it in writing and he got very hateful, asked me to hang on while he got his supervisor and the phone got disconnected. I called the number right back and it went to a voice message, again with no greeting, just leave your name and number. I thought it was all done, I received another call Nov 30 at my workplace, this time from Jack Thomas (again very heavy Indian accent) and he is supposidly with Kevin Peterson Law Agency in New York only the phone number was 516-847-4310 which is supposidly out of New York. I contacted my local police department at this time, gave them all 3 of these different phone numbers and they tried to call them but only to receive the “no-greeting” voice mail. So today, Dec 2 I get a call from Kevin Peterson, Attorney at Law out of San Francisco, Ca from 530-344-4624 Tell me he will have the local sheriff come to my place of work and serve me with papers, again Kevin has very broken english and very heavy Indian accent. The accusations they are making are awful, does anyone know what can be done. I am sick to death with this
Now that I’ve done a little research, I know that “Anthony Davis” who claims to be an attorney is a scam. See, I’m a legal assistant and have been in collections before and know the law. When this man told me that he would contact my employer to pay my bill, I said, “You have to take me to court, get a judgment and then garnish my salary” To this there was no response. Mr. Davis also told me that I would be “arrested” if I did not pay this debt. He calls incessantly: to my job and my cell phone. Thanks goodness he does not have my home phone number. Then I asked, “To whom do I have this debt?” He replies, “The company I represent owns many, many companies such as Cash Net USA, Speedy Cash. . “However, he did not tell me to whom I owe the debt and the amount of the debt. At first I was scared because I have defaulted on PDLs in the past, but ALL collection practices are governed by the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (Federal Trade Commission): http:
DUBNER: Now, Bob, the blog post is a pop version of a meta-study, which rolls up other research on different pieces of the issue. I’m sorry that the studies that you cite in the post are not just the biased rantings of some ultra-right-wing pro-market-at-all-cost lunatics. And I realize that at least one of the primary studies was authored by yourself, so I guess I’m asking you to prove that you are not an ultra-right-wing pro-market-at-all-cost lunatic.
There is no westwood mediation. If they are talking with a high accent they are Indian scammers. It’s the latest foreign scam being hoisted on Americans, gullible ones that it. If you have applied or attempted to apply for a payday loan, they will call you at some point. Be ready when they call. They are looking for some one gullible to easily victimize. You can not reason with them and anyway they are conducting a scam so deal with it properly – blowing a loud air air horn into the phone. They get the message with that loud and clear that you are not to be messed with and they usually move on.
It sounds like if you’re talking to a scammer. (See 9 Signs You Are Talking to Debt Collection Scammer.) Real collectors are not allowed to make such threats (and do you really think the government insists on the payment made by a certain issuer and a certain drugstore chain). The caller is trying to get you in the way that makes your money unrecoverable once you realize it’s a scam. (See The One Way You Should Never Pay Debt Collector.)
I’ve never heard of Money More or Money, but received a letter (very unprofessional actually signed in ink) by some small time debt collector claiming I pay or settlement (Payback & Associates, Henderson. places appear to be in NV).
DUBNER: OK, so this is interesting that a watchdog group that will not reveal its funding is going after an industry to try to influence academics that’s funding. So should we assume that CFA, the watchdog, has some kind of horse in the payday race? Do we just not know?
USA Today tallied the heavy-handed Trump litigation strategy back in June 2016. Over three decades, Trump fought 3,500 lawsuits-and faced 200 mechanic’s-mostly arising issues from disputes over unpaid bills. His strategy was to contest everything, and never quit: “The Trump teams financially overpower and outlast much smaller opponents, draining their resources. Some just give up the fight, or settle for less; some have ended up in bankruptcy or out of business altogether. ”
I am very concerned you are dealing with a scammer – possibly in both instances. Please read this article about how process servers work and proceed with extreme caution. (And verify the one you are making payments to is legitimate!)
In May 2008, I took out a payday
Fulmer’s firm, Advance America, runs about 2,400 payday loan shops, across 29 states. All in, there are roughly 20,000 payday shops in the U.S., with total loan estimated at around $ 40 billion per year. If you were back to the early 1990s, there were fewer than 500 payday-loan stores. But the industry grew as many states relaxed their usury laws – many states, but not all. Payday lending is prohibited in 14 states, including much of the north and in Washington, D.C. Another nine states allow payday loans but only with more borrower-friendly terms. And that leaves 27 states where payday lenders can charge in the neighborhood of 400 percent interest – states ranging from California to Texas to Wisconsin to Alabama, which is what drew President Obama there.
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