with a case # So I immediately called back and a lady answered as “United” and asked for my case #. I gave it to her and she said I owe for a PDL from Sept 2011 with ACE. I do not remember having a loan with them. I have had PDLs before and thought I’ve forgot about it. I Todd them I’m on maternity leave and have no income. Then she transferred me to her supervisor because she was monitoring the call and wanted to try and work something out with me. He asked if Ihad people I can borrow the money from because if it does not get paid I will go to court and be charged with fraud check. Scared the crap out of me! So he said I can pay $ 150 by Jan 25th and the rest by Feb 22. I asked why I never got anything in the mail. He asked if the address he had was right, it was an address that I moved out of in June 2011. So he said that’s why. He said I had to get the payment plan with a debit card. I was stupid and gave it to him. The last few days I’ve been thinking about it because I just did not remember this loan. Then I remembered that in AZ they have no real payday loans, they were outlawed in 2010. Now they give you a loan off your car registration or title. So if I defaulted then they would have come and taken my car. Also, IF you give them a check it has to be a voided check. So how can I have a bad check if they can not cash it being that it was voided? So … .does it sounds like my situation is also a scam? If so I probably need to cancel my card.
I received a calling phone call from number 701-212-1223 stating that I had owed a payday lone in the price of $ 2097.00 and that if i did not care about this that there would be a sherrif at my door to take me to jail and for e to appear in court.
DeYOUNG: Borrowing money is like renting money. You have to use it for a few weeks. You could rent a car for two weeks, right? You get to use that car. Well, if you calculate the annual percentage rate on that car rental – that means that you divide the amount you pay on that car by the value of that automobile – you get similarly high rates. So this is not about interest. This is about short-term use of a product that’s been lent to you. This is just arithmetic.
Be aware that some payday lenders have threatened garnishment in order to get borrowers to pay, even though they do not have a court order or judgment. If that should happen, you may want to seek legal assistance.
Four weeks later, he got even worse, fighting fever, night sweats, and disorientation, as his friend and fellow activist Zackie Achmat recounted later in a newspaper article. It was only then that Louw finally went in for an HIV test. He was positive.
It can be frustrating and embarrassing when debt collectors call relatives, and, as you suspect, some debt collectors use tactics that are not legal. But, as a consumer, you are not powerless. Here are three Credit.com articles you may find useful, and thanks for alerting others to the kind of treatment you have received.
DEYOUNG: This is why price caps are a bad idea. Because if the solution was implemented as I suggest and, in fact, payday lenders lost some of their most profitable customers – because now we’re not getting that fee the 6th and 7th time from them – then the price would have to go up. And we would not let the market determine whether or not at that high price we still have the need to use the product.
Sadly, these types of scammers are good at what they do and very convincing. They prey on consumers that are not aware of the rules and use scare tactics to convince them otherwise. You hit the nail on the head with this:
Jason – It absolutely sounds like the classic overseas payday loan scam. Do not send them a penny. Remember, in the US a debt collector is required to send notification of the debt to you in writing. If he does not, he’s breaking the law. Report these guys to the FTC and your state attorney general.
about a year ago very threatening and I initially set up a payment. When I found all the scam info online I have not got that account. I honestly do not remember if I had a payday loan default I do not remember having one. They called again but the guy said he was a fraud investigator for the commonwealth of pa and I would be brought up on all of these bogus sounding charges of fraud bad checks etc from a loan probably from 2008. He also knew I have a misdemeanor record and brought it up to me which is what scared me. When I said I know this is a scam he got furious said he would love to see me get prosecuted. I just said anything and hung up. Googled the phone number he left on vm was 8558870097 and it def seems like a scam. Latest loans from my research are illegal in and even if I did have said the default loan which I do not believe I did the statute of limitations on the debt on the 4 years fraud 2 years. I obviously realize the only fraud is these people but I still can not help but worry about this.
But there is one statistical tidbit that flies in the face of this conventional wisdom: A clear majority of same-sex couples who are living together are now married. Same-sex marriage was illegal in every state until Massachusetts legalized it in 2004, and it did not become legal nationwide until the Supreme Court decision Obergefell v. Hodges in 2015. Two years after that decision, 61 percent of the same-sex couples who were sharing a home were married, according to a set of surveys by Gallup. That’s a high take-up rate: Just because same-sex couples are able to get married does not mean they have to; and yet large numbers have seized the opportunity. (That’s compared with 89 percent of different sex couples.)
You may want to contact the IRS about the status of your tax return. I’m unaware as to why an outside company would be holding it or having access to it. (unless you have a judgment
Interesting. The fact that they are a “mediation” firm does not exempt them from the FDCPA to my knowledge. Companies that regularly collect debt for third parties are debt collectors, regardless of what they choose to call themselves. I would encourage you to file a complaint with the CFPB and your state attorney general’s office.
I’ve been contacted by 3 different companies. First one was Goodman and Stern, who was Kauffman and Associates, and as of today was contacted by Lohchner Gates and Associates. All of them threaten jail time. After reading this article, I was able to receive the money from goodman and stern through my bank. I just wish I had found this before
DEYOUNG: If we take an objective look at the folks who use payday lending, what we find is that most users of the product are very satisfied with the product. Survey results show that almost 90 percent of the users of the product say that they are either somewhat satisfied or very satisfied with the product afterwards.
DEYOUNG: Oh, I think that our history of usury laws is a direct result of our Judeo-Christian background. And even Islamic banking, which follows in the same tradition. But clearly interest on lent or borrowed money has, has been looked at non-objectively, let’s put it that way. So the shocking APR numbers if we apply them to rent a hotel or rent a car or lend your father’s gold watch or your mother’s silverware to the pawnbroker for a month, the APRs come out similar. So the shock from these numbers is, we recognize the shock here because we are used to calculate interest rates on loans but not interest rates on anything else. And it’s human nature to want to hear bad news and it’s, you know, the media understands this and so they report bad news more often than good news. We do not hear this. It’s like the houses that do not burn down and the stores that do not get robbed.
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I just got a call from a friend friend stating someone called me from an arbitration placeor something. She gave me the name and name of the person. Apparently they told my friend that I had to contact them before the end of business tomorrow or they are going to suspend my license and have money garnished from my checks. One big problem is a drive for a company so without my license I would not be working. This is threatening my job life and family. They were really rude. I did call the number and I left a message for them to call me back. I suspect this is a scam because I got married a little over a year ago. And they have my social security number and my name name and they called my friend. I suspect it is a scare tactic from a loan called security finance. But I did not hear from them since a month before I got married. I’m looking into this before I give them any info at all
It’s frightening, to be sure, but scammers use that fear to get people to pay money they do not really owe. Before you pay anything, make sure you owe it, and that they own the debt. (They are required by law to send you a “validation of the debt” by postal mail.) Please do not agree to pay via a pre-card debit card. More about that here: The Way You Should Never Pay a Debt Collector.
The Ultimate Guide to Debt Collectors. And do not be so tough on yourself. The scammers would not keep at it if they were not successful scaring people in paying money they did not have. We’ll bet you will not be a victim again.
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau does not have the power to ban payday lending outright, or to set a nationwide interest-rate cap, but it can act to prevent deemed “unfair, abusive, or deceptive” practices. In March 2015, it announced that it was considered a set of rules for most small-dollar loans (up to $ 500) that consumers are required to repay within 45 days. The goal is to put an end to payday-lending debt traps.
You do your best to ask as many questions as you can of the research and of the researchers themselves. You ask where the data comes from, whether it means really what they say it means, and you ask them to explain why they might be wrong, or compromised. You make the best judgment you can, and then you move forward and try to figure out how the research really matters. Because the whole idea of the research, is likely to help solve some big problem.
I got this call at my job telling me to pay this payday loan. I took out. I never did. I consulted with my attorney and he said to her a scam because they have to send you something in mail. I never got anything. No court sum or anything. Beaver here is the phone number: (213) 260-9435
I was getting a call in florida saying that if I did not pay or call them back they would send a cop to pick me up and that I had 15 mins to call back..won’t send me any information about anything .. also calling my work saying if I did not call back my bosses would not see me for a long time they said it was state wide adr 1-888-825-3116 they were too aggressive too
country you will not have any luck with either.
DUBNER: Wowzer. That does sound pretty damning – that the head of a research group funded by payday lenders is essentially ghostwriting parts of an academic paper that happens to reach pro-payday lending conclusions. Were you able to speak with Marc Fusaro, the author of the paper?
the threats. Do not worry they’re all scam … The cops are still investigating … The cops contacted NCN guys .. (who were probably freaked out … lol) and these guys said they had nothing to do with the calls … Its just made up fake company name … and they are just making prank calls …
They ARE scams. Offshore scammers who threaten you and your family. I’m threatened to have my CIA brother in law “hellfire down on them and their families that they wish they were never born!” Taken from the scene where Tom Cruise talks to the terrorists in the movie ‘tropic Thunder ‘. I’m going to call them every day until eternity threatens them and their families with serious bodily harm and of course they will just disappear when the CIA catches up to them! Lol!
Same thing happened to me the same name and number on my phone. The number to get in touch with Ms. Ingram is 1-877- 258- 1188. When asked the name of this company they refused to give information and hung up. Names used are Ms. Barry, Ms. Ingram, and today Ms. Rios. They are threatening me with wage garnishment etc. They refused to give the name of and original debtor. I have no recollection of oweing. Need to know who to call to stop this.
I did, however, take out a payday loan from a company named Cash Web, who promptly sold my info to a company called Hydra Loans. Perfect name as they had dozens of other such businesses. They put money in my account, though I never saw a contract or signed a thing; not even a phone call I paid them back the principle immediately but they still tried to get money out of my account (not even on paydays though they claim I applied for the loan and spoke to someone on the phone to set it up). I had to close my account and open a new one to stop them. Now, years later I’ll get these calls or letters, but nothing will ever happen. I ignore them, but if I had the time and money, I would love to get them I to court.
We are working on some of our payday loans clients and they are getting these same calls. One of the customers were scared in paying them until I looked it up. They said they were from payday loan recovery group. Saying she owed a loan from 2008 for 1,200 and she could pay it in full for $ 399. She was scared in paying but I told her to cancel her creid card before it went through. They send her an invoice on the decline. The processing company is http:
I received a call from Cyrstal from a restricted telephone line that she had papers to serve on my husband in the next day or to call this number 855-212-9406 to find out what it was about. I called and talked with Paul Landon who said it had to do with a payday loan and that if it was not paid, my husband would be served at work. He then went to say the amount was 1,100 but he could wipe it down to 580 if we would pay it right away and he would even let us pay it in 3 payments. I told him I had to talk to my husband and he said not to take as long as he was waiting to have him served and him arrested. Then he gave me his personal number which is 716-462-5680 and the company he works for is Outsource Legal Prep (but I just found this out but doing some internet search – and it seems to be owned by Kevin Walker). I’m glad to have found this out as at first I was scared but now since I know it’s scam I just called them back and told them not to call me back I know it’s a scam and I would turn them in to the proper authorities if they did. Thank you for posting this information.
This person called my job and blocked their number. He left me a message saying his name is Michael Hunter and that he is the senior locator for the processing and summons division for the state of Florida. He said I needed to contact my case worker, Mr. Moss immediately about 2 fraud charges against me for writing bad checks and that need to serve me with a warrant. I did not call them back and did google search on this and saw it’s some kind of a scam. They have also called my job, but we have a call center who would not put the call through. He said I needed to call 1-888-978-4319 extension 147 and that my case number is 431-923
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