Saying you’re going to be arrested for fraud because you have not paid your payday loan is a bogus threat. The fact that they have all this information about you does not mean it is a legitimate collection attempt. And the fact that you want to pay with a moneypack is a big red flag. I would suggest you turn the tables on them and report them to the Federal Trade Commission and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (consumerfinance.gov). Next time they call start the conversation by telling them you are going to record the call to deliver to law enforcement – and do so!
of a group called the Consumer Credit Research Foundation, or the CCRF, which is funded by payday lenders. Now, to be clear, Ronald Mann says that CCRF did not pay him to do the study, and did not try to influence his findings; but neither does his paper disclose that the data collection was handled by an industry-funded group. So we went back to Bob DeYoung and asked whether, maybe, it should have.
you took out these loans now you people dont want to pay them back and eveyone wonders why the economy is the way it’s a cause of people like you get off ur a ** and get a job and start paying back your debt
I got a call yesterday from a company called PDLR. This woman’s name was ms. ingram and she did not have an accent like a lot of the companies sited here. She said she was trying to settle a payday loan that I supposedly did not pay before they starte wage garnishments. She could not tell me who the original loan was with-said they were not a collection agency but that the original company did not send paerwork to me that was returned when I requested proof of the debt. The number they called from was 630-844-5678. Neither the company name or phone number popped up when i googled, but this is clearly a scam. I called back the number and the same person answered, but she did not identify a company. As far as I’m concerned, they can pound salt.
DeYOUNG: Well, in a short sentence that’s very scientific I would start by saying, “Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.” The question comes down to how we identify the water here and how do we identify the baby here. One way is to collect a lot of information, as the CFPB suggests, about the creditworthiness of the borrower. But that brings up production cost of payday loans and will probably put the industry out of business. But I think we can all agree that once someone pays a fee in an aggregate amount equal to the amount that was originally borrowed, that’s pretty clear that there’s a problem there.
Do not let one of these companies scare you into making payments if you’re not sure you owe the debt. In most cases, collectors must first take you to court and get a judgment before they can go after your pay or property.
Within 72 hours they would attach my salary. She did not say what the debt was connected to.
Ana – Do not pay a penny until you verify this is definitely a legitimate debt. Ask them to send you a written notice of the debt by mail (not email or fax). This is your right under federal law. If they refuse to call Fraud.org for advice as it’s probably a scam.
Mark – The next time they call them to provide written documentation to validate the debt (to prove the debt even exists). This is a standard procedure when dealing with any debt collector and by law, the collector must comply with this request. In fact, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, if a collector contacts you by phone they have 5 days in which to send you formal written notice that you owe the debt. The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and your right to dispute the debt, in writing, within 30 days of receipt of the notice.
, blah, blah blah. Some people have been middle east, but some are not. I tried to leave a message to call me back but no answer. I went on the net tonight, and have been enlightened. I have to cancel my checking acct. because I gave them my info. I feel so gullable. Just because I gave them auth. for auto withdrawl. Don, do it, please just deal with the companies you took out the loan with !!!
As I opened the CT scan last week to read the next case, I was baffled. The history just read “gun wound.” I have been a radiologist in one of the busiest trauma centers in the United States for 13 years, and have diagnosed thousands of handgun injuries to the brain, lung, liver, spleen, bowel, and other vital organs. I thought that I knew all that I needed to know about gunballs, but the specific pattern of injury on my computer screen was one that I had seen only once before.
remember they are sitting in a boiler room somewhere – maybe not in the US – making false threats. If you need to, call your phone company and find out how to put your phone call on your phone. Or get a google voice number and set it up so that only calls from people you know go through.
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Cost of a payday loan. Many state laws set a maximum amount for payday loan fees ranging from $ 10 to $ 30 for every $ 100 borrowed. A typical two-week payday loan with $ 15 per $ 100 fee equates to an annual percentage rate (APR) of about 400 percent. By comparison, APRs on credit cards can range from about 12 percent to about 30 percent. In many states that allow payday lending, the cost of the loan, fees, and the maximum loan amount are capped.
IT WAS A SCAM !!!!
At no point during this aggressive voice mail did he identify his company or any affiliation to another company
So, the payday business model is not like pawn shop, where you surrender your valuable possessions to raise cash. To get a payday loan, you need to have a job and a bank account. According to Pew survey data, some 12 million Americans – roughly 1 in 20 adults – take out a payday loan in a given year. They tend to be relatively young and earn less than $ 40,000; they tend to not have a four-year college degree; and while the most common borrower is a white female, the rate of borrowing is the highest among the minorities.
She said, “I’ve got $ 455, that if I made a payment or paid that today, that would be closed and I would not go to court. But if I did go to court, I would be looking after costs
I got a call from advanced capitol solutions for a defaulted loan i had in 2008 from another company. i googled their number 877-845-5988 and got allot of fraud comments and i cant verify they bought the debt from e corp. I send them an email to send me evidence that my attorney can try to verify. they said they can come after me for check fraud, which fake collectors always do to scare you out of some money. have not given them any acct info and now do you know what they know, anybody know of this company history?
Do not consider paying. You could consider blocking the number. But ask for a prepaid debit card is a sign of a scammer. Please read this post about that: The One Way You Should Never Pay Debt Collector
They are scammers calling from India with spoofed numbers to appear as though they are within US. Since they are out to get you, well you get them instead. Next time they call just loud air horn in the phone. They never dare call back. They are usually looking for someone to victimize easily and they get it that is not you.
You can do all of us should do – check your credit reports and scores regularly. Given the number of data people are required to give Social Security numbers, we are all at some risk. We wrote about somewhat similar situation here: Help! Someone Is Using My Social Security Number
First, understand your rights when dealing with a collector. If you read through this comment, you will see many examples of fake payday loan scam collectors using scare tactics to coerce victims in paying up without researching the debt or verifying that they actually have it. In your case, if you’re positive you paid the old payday loan in full, it’s quite possible that it’s a scam. Fortunately, there are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
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