STANDAERT: These payday loans cost borrowers hundreds of dollars for what is marketed as a small loan. And the Center for Responsible Lending has estimated that payday loan costs over $ 3.4 billion per year from low-income consumers stuck in the payday-loan debt trap.
There’s one more thing I want to add to today’s discussion. The payday-loan industry is, in a lot of ways, a simple target. But the more I think about it, the more it looks like a symptom of a bigger problem, which is this: remember, to get a payday loan, you need to have a job and a bank account. So what does it say about an economy in which millions of working people make so little money that they can not pay their bills, that they can not absorb one hit like a ticket for smoking in public?
I received a call back in July 2012. He said he was with the cook county district attorney office. That charge was pending from 2008 on cash advance. I told him this was paid for but did not have access to that bank information. He gave me the number of the attorney processing the charge. It was ACS. They would not give me any information about the old claim. Only that they have the right to process check fraud charges. I got pressured in setting up a payment arrangement. I paid the first installment and then cancel my credit card for the second. When I started reading all these claims. Now they continue to call and harass about filing charges. This time the guy when he called did not say he was with cook county and admitted he an investigator. He will not give you a number to call him back. What can I do? How do I get them to stop?
I was contacted by the same company and paid. Did not receive a receipt either. Then I contacted the company they said I supposedly owed the money to. The payday loan company looked up my info and said I had never had a loan with them and advised me to call my bank. My Bank is now going after PDLR group for fraud.
Cash advances often cost 3 to 5 percent of the amount being borrowed. When made on a credit card, the interest is often higher than other credit card transactions. The interest compounds daily starting from the day cash is borrowed.
I received a call about a payday loan that I took out and never paid back. This guy was real nasty told me that I need to quit my job cuz they dont pay that much. Told me that if I dont pay thatvi can be charged with fraud asked for debit card number. Thankfully I had ten dollars less than the agreed amount in my checking n I have a block for overdraft fees. After this I called an attorney office and they said it sounds like a scam. Thing was that I owe a payday loan place and this guy had my name and social security number so I thought it was legit. I have since ordered a new debit card and i’ll talk to my bank about changing my checking acount number or something. I dont want these guys to get into my bank account number. He theartened to garnish my salary told me that if I go to court I could pay up to $ 2000 instead of the small amount that I really owe. Said he can come up to my work and serve me with a poster. I told him that I could only pay $ 50 now and then $ 50 a week and he said he needs 150 now and 100 a week. I do not see how anyone can deny a payment that makes me feel even more scam. U can pay hospital bills at a day and they’re not doing so why this would be any different. I do not pay anything until I get a short date and then I will go to court then I will pay. Until then oh Well I just got a job after being out of work for 4 months I have a lot of important things to worry about
I received a call from a “courier service” in my county. The number was restricted. He said he had legal papers to deliver to me and unless I called 877-454-4291, they wold be delivered today between 2 & 4. I must be available at my home or place of employment. How will they know where to go? LOL !!! I called the number but did not talk to anyone. That phone was answered ADR Arbitration. Has anyone ever heard of them?
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This has all the classic signs of a payday loan scam. I would encourage you to report this firm to the authorities – FTC, CFPB, and tell them next time they call you call their call to report them to law enforcement.
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Bob DeYoung makes a very complicated argument about the use of payday loans. Instead of “trapping borrowers in a cycle of debt,” as President Obama and other critics put it, DeYoung argues that payday loans can help people avoid a cycle of debt – like the late payment of your company company charges for an unpaid bill; like the overdraft fees or bounced-check your bank fees may charge you.
Credit.com’s journalism is largely supported by an e-commerce business model. Instead of rely on revenue from display ad impressions, Credit.com maintains a financial marketplace separately from its editorial pages. When someone navigates to those pages and applies for a credit card, for example, Credit.com will get paid what is essentially a finder’s fee if that person ends up getting the card. That does not mean, however, that our editorial decisions are informed by the products available in our marketplace. The editorial team chooses what to write about and how to write about it independently of the decisions and priorities of the business side of the company. In fact, we maintain a strict and important firewall between the editorial and business departments. Our mission as a journalist is to serve the reader, not the advertiser. In that sense, we are no different from any other news organization that is supported by ad revenue.
DeYoung, along with three co-authors, recently published an article about payday loans on Liberty Street Economics. That’s a blog run by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Another co-author, Donald Morgan, is Assistant Vice President at the New York Fed. The article is entitled “Reframing the Debate About Payday Lending.”
Please do not respond to an email. Instead, we urge you to report it to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. You should not be threatened at all. And having a Social Security number does not mean that the debt collector is legitimate.
I b. I have been receiving the same calls from Jason and Ms. Thomas from the same company in Illinois. (ALSO, SAID THEY WOULD GARNISH WAGES AND REVOKE MY LICENSE) They have now started employing americans to make these calls to make it sound legit. So I advised that I have been recording these calls for the FBI investigation that I am involved in. I am a professional lawyer and debt collector can not call you without verifying that they have the correct person and that would be done via certified mail with a summons and complaint against you. Also, if the collector such as Jason Locke and Ms. Thomas from 877-601-5871 Ext 259 and 877-601-5871 Ext 251 were real debt collectors they would have to provide written proof of the original loan, copies of the e-sign agreement between you and the lender, account numbers, telephone numbers for the lender etc … This guy Jason did not know his own address when I asked him and he could not confirm my full social security number. Also, one tip to remember is legit collectors have to say the following statement before talking with you “This is a try to collect a debt etc.”, so remember that. The unfortunately was scammed out of $ 500.00 a few years ago and I paid the fees and sent fax to them
I’ve been calling for two months now that we’re going to sue me on 300 dollar case but was charging me 9000 for checking fraud missing on payments so they are tired and are going to serve me at my job and pick me up on this charge that have been brught before me to have never got a check book before online web site is making these aligation against me
A payday loan is a short-term loan for an unexpected expense and is usually due to your next payday. Applying is fast and secure. In a few simple steps, payday loans can extend your budget to your next payday by offering the cash you need now.
6pm rcvd calls repeatedly from Michael Moore of “Fraud Office” trying to collect a debt from November 2008, which I’m sure I do not have to Money and More. Alledges, to Jasmine Wright and Maria Sanches that I have commited fraud and a warrant would be issued for my arrest if I do not send $ 1107.15 thru Money Gram and am harrased to send it immediately or expect to be arrested by 8am the next day . After several calls from my attorney to the # 5133994987, left messages, etc., no calls for a few hours now.
Tricia, I get about 3 of those phone calls a week. Just ignore them and you will find about 10 more “final warnings”. They will stop calling you once they realize that their scare tactics are not working. If they were really going to serve you they would just do it rather than call you on the phone and tell you first. I was served a summon from bill collectors on two occasions and I did not have a warning call from any of them.
Im glad you posted this, i just lost $ 150 to this [redacted]. So today I had a similar call about another payday loan i supposedly had taken out, but didnt. I will be blocking my debit card now, thank you for posting.
I made the stupid mistake, and because I was unemployed, but go back to work. I took out loans but started a new job, so I was not worried about paying them back. Well I lost my job and was unable. I’m looking for work, but I’m now getting calls from people other than I borrowed from. (capitol solutions) They are a scam from what I read. They threaten to have my paperwork sent to the court house, come to my house
When you accept the terms and conditions for a loan, you are agreeing to pay back the principal loan and finance charges in the amount of time shown in the documents provided by your lender. Additional fees or charges by your lender may apply in the event that you can not repay your loan in full or if you make a late payment. We can not predict the amount of fees that you will incur as a result of non-payment, late payment, or partial payment. Additionally, we have no knowledge of the loan details between you and your lender. Please refer to the late payment, partial payment, and non-payment policies detailed in the loan documents provided by your lender. Our company makes a good effort to work only with reputable lenders who live by Fair Debt Collection Practices. If you have a complaint about a specific lender, please contact us.
The one who called me was American legal services .. I have never been to jail in my life Thank God I called a lawyer first .. Should I know when they were avoiding my request for detailed info.
payday loan recovery group, 1-877 * 601-5871, has been reported to the Alabama Attorney General for making calls claiming to have information about the garnishment of a payday loan …. we are currently tracking the site and will back track it to the source … we are trying to catch you
I got online immediately to look in my email for said correspondence. I found an email that I had initiated requesting information on how
Anyone ever heard of Peter Shapiro or the Shapiro Agency? Telephone 877-723-4711. This ‘person’ has called two of my family members today and told them his agency was conducting a criminal investigation of me and needed a character statement. I’m sure this is the same as those who harassed me about a payday loan from 2006 to the point where I changed my cell phone number over a year ago. They were threatening criminal action then. My daughter asked if she was a debt collector and was told no. She looked them up on the internet and found, yes, they were collectors (of some sort). Now I have been paying my Chapter 13 for 50 months now with 4 more months to go. Any bill I owed is included in that bankruptcy. So you can believe this makes me furious! I’ve tried to call the number but I’m told to hold for Pete Shapiro and then asked to leave a voice message. I want to talk to this thing to voice. Any suggestions on who and how to complain about this thing?
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A woman named “Cindy” from “RA Associates” left a message on my voice mail saying that the call was about a debt and that if I did not contact them
someone named nicole woods – who’s leaving a number of – 888-891-4526 but you’re cant to her. she is very rude. and calls my job and tell anyone who answers the phonet that I’m going to be arrested and she is going to serve some papers on me. I asked the mail to the documents. claim they cant
People this stuff is a SCAM they CAN NOT arrest you for having a faulty payday loan. They first have to take you to court and they CAN NOT contact you by phone to inform you of it. You have to be served from the court of the court and where the court is and who is being taken to court for and for what reasons.
Funny thing is, they have a website but anyone can get a website these days. They are also listed in the BBB website with a C- rating. C- because of complaints. Their website domain is via GoDaddy. Now thats classy.
MARC FUSARO: The Consumer Credit Research Foundation and I had an interest in the paper being as clear as possible. And if anyone, including Hilary Miller, would take a paragraph that I had written and re-wrote it in a way that made what I was trying to say more clearly, I’m happy for that kind of advice. I’ve taken papers to the university writing center before and they’ve helped me make my writing more clear. And there’s nothing scandalous about that, at all. I mean the results of the paper have never been called into question. Nobody had suggested I changed any other results or anything like that based on any comments from anybody. Frankly, I think this is much ado about nothing.
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I was contacted by someone at my work number saying they are from Quick Cash who bought a debt from Cash Call saying they are coming to my work in an hour. I asked for their phone number and they would not give it to me. Just that if I did not pay over $ 1,000 today, they were coming to my work. They would not give me any information. Sounded like a call center. They said they had a case against me in the county where I live. Well, I work for a firm firm and look up online to see, there are no cases against me. How do I get them to stop when I have no phone number or information? Thank you!
Your mother should be contacted both by phone and by postal mail. A collective agency that refuses to do that is not complying with federal law. In such cases, we recommend submitting a complaint to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. You can find more information about dealing with debt collectors here:
Typically your loan will be due on your next payday. Each state has its own set of rules and regulations that we follow. To find out more about your state, please contact a store near you. Find a store.
I received a call from Cyrstal from a restricted telephone line that she had papers to serve on my husband in the next day or to call this number 855-212-9406 to find out what it was about. I called and talked with Paul Landon who said it had to do with a payday loan and that if it was not paid, my husband would be served at work. He then went to say the amount was 1,100 but he could wipe it down to 580 if we would pay it right away and he would even let us pay it in 3 payments. I told him I had to talk to my husband and he said not to take as long as he was waiting to have him served and him arrested. Then he gave me his personal number which is 716-462-5680 and the company he works for is Outsource Legal Prep (but I just found this out but doing some internet search – and it seems to be owned by Kevin Walker). I’m glad to have found this out as at first I was scared but now since I know it’s scam I just called them back and told them not to call me back I know it’s a scam and I would turn them in to the proper authorities if they did. Thank you for posting this information.
Why not send all your correspondence thru the mail since you have all this info on me. He said he would and wishes me luck. The scammers use several names like Daniel Richards, Dominic Jones, Angelina Parker and gives you a bogus address in Irvine (the idiot can not even pronounce Irvine, he goes to Irwine) when his phone does not registry East of San Francisco Ca. Please do not be intimidated by these people. Since a lot of our companies are in the US outsourced most of our call center
I got a voicemail yesterday from Jacklyn Shriver or Traver (could not understand her). She addressed me with my full name and then said “also known as” and said my maiden name. She sounded very stern and threatening. She said she had to check out some info, kind of rambled about different things, basically saying if I do not contact the firm she will show up in person at my home or place of employment. Instructed me to call the firm at 1-877-698-2249 and said something like “you have been notified.
The bigger problem for payday lenders is the overhead. Alex Horowitz, a research manager at the Pew Charitable Trusts, says that two-thirds of the fee payday lenders collect are spent just keeping the lights on. The average storefront serves only 500 customers a year, and employee turnover is ridiculously high. For example, QC Holdings, a public traded nationwide lender, reported that it had to replace approximately 65 percent of its branch-level employees in 2014. “The profits are not extraordinary,” Horowitz says. “What is extraordinary is the inefficiency.”
Which suggests there is a small but substantial group of people who are so financially desperate and
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