• Ask the collector for the name and address of the collection agency for which he or she works. Then ask him to send you written information about the debt. Any legitimate debt collection agency will do this because it is required under the federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
I could not believe how fast everything was processed! I could not believe that I had gotten approved as most lenders do not approve me for some unknown reason. I was so happy and thankful that it came through quickly. Now I’m able to pay for my bond! Thank you!
my fiancé has been getting phone calls from someone saying he is an official mike Johnson from 810-223-0563 said he got a loan for $ 300 over the internet but he did not. he applied for some loans but because his credit is bad and no bank account he could not get one. this guy says he got one but he told us where he was from and like most of you he had his name ss # where he works and is threating to have him arrested. We talked to a cop who said that if we had applied for a loan even over the internet they would have mailed out paperwork anyway with PAYMENT OPTIONS and how long you had to pay it back we got nothing and the pretend cop will not give us the It’s a good idea that we have a lot of money, but we have no money for it. what do you do when they keep threatening you and you have no idea what they are talking about.
This is a common tactic that is used to scare you into pay without questioning the validity of the debt. There are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
Within 72 hours they would attach my salary. She did not say what the debt was connected to.
I am confused. Why would a debt collector say that money you paid them was refundable? Perhaps you were applying for a loan? If so, and if this is an advance loan loan scam, the promise refund is worthless. Did you wire money to them via Western Union by chance? If so, then it’s probably gone to someone overseas already.
saying that I was paying in full etc. and then after I paid in full, I called the company that they said I had the loan with and they advised me that my loan was already paid in full a few months ago and said that the collectors were not associated with them. Boy, did I learn my lesson. What they are doing is taking your personal information from any possible attempt to take out a payday loan or if you have taken out a loan sometime. New trick is a company called FUNDEDPAYDAY.COM took an ACH payment out of the bank account for $ 14.95 and said that I filled out paper work asking them to find me payday loan for this fee. Unbelieveable, why would anyone pay a fee for someone to find them a loan, when we all know that we can get it for free. The next time you get any calls like this, do your homework and take down all info that you can from them. Tell them you want a copy of the original loan paper and when you take out the loan, the amount of the loan, the claim number etc … WE ARE HARD WORKING PEOPLE AND WE NEED TO START FIGHTING BACK.
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Hello I hope someone can help me please. I received A call from a guy saying he’s from Empire Mediation & Arbitration Service LLC. That they are taking me to court for defaulting on a payday loan with check n go. That I’m going to face a judge and there’s asking 2815 but if I pay today they’re willing to settle for 412.50. Originally my loan was 255.00. witch I got in 2008. I told them to send me a validation debut letter he said I can email you a settlement letter that they supposedly sent me a while ago. They had my old address But I never got anything because my mom lives there. So there is a saying that I’m going to get served with court papers and I have to face a judge also they want 2,815.00 for fees. Does this sound right please help. I called check n go they said they sold my case in 2009 and they have nothing to do with my case no more and that they are not suing me But they do not know who else has my case since the company they sell it too went out of business. Please help I must pay the 412.50. I do not work or have the money sine I take acre of my daughter who had cancer. Thank you
DEYOUNG: If we take an objective look at the folks who use payday lending, what we find is that most users of the product are very satisfied with the product. Survey results show that almost 90 percent of the users of the product say that they are either somewhat satisfied or very satisfied with the product afterwards.
It may seem inconceivable that a company could not make money collecting interest at a 36 percent annual clip. One reason it’s true is that default rates are high. A study in 2007 by two economists, Mark Flannery and Katherine Samolyk, found that defaults account for more than 20 percent of operating expenses at payday-loan stores. By comparison, loan losses in 2007 at small U.S. commercial banks accounted for only 3 percent of expenses, according to the Kansas City Fed. This is not surprising, given that payday lenders do not look carefully at the borrower’s income, expenses, or credit history to ensure that she can repay the loan: That underwriting process, the bedrock of conventional lending, would be ruinously expensive when applied to a $ 300, two-week loan. Instead, lending to the borrower’s checking account-but if that’s empty due to other withdrawals or overdrafts, it’s empty.
Miller was making substantial changes to the paper, CCRF did not exercise editorial control. That is, he says, he still had complete academic freedom to accept or reject Miller’s changes. Here’s Fusaro:
We also have received several calls. We had applied months back for a payday loan. When we called us back to confirm they were only willing to give us half of what we needed so we told them we were not taking it. Now months later we are getting phones, with the number coming up unknown or as 00000. The guy claims his name is John Frederick. He claims he is from the George Washington Associates and that unless my boyfriend calls him back they will have to take him to court. Repeatdly asks for our attorney’s information. We’ve told him we do not have one and he tells us we get better or pay the debt. My boyfriend works out of town during the week, so the first time I got this call I said this and asked for the name of the company that they are persuading the debt for. He will tell me that he can not give me that information. But when my boyfriend calls them back they will not answer his calls. Today I told him that he had all our other information, so if the debt is real send it to us in paper work, and to stop calling because we have already notified the authorities. I then told him to have a nice day and to F *** off. When he leaves the message on our machine they are always ending “If we do not hear from you all I can do is wish you the best of luck like this badly unfolds on you.” How do we stop these when there is no number ? Its really annoying.
You can report to your state attorney general office, and you can submit a complaint to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. However, the people you are dealing with may be out of the country or may have a “business” that often changes names. You are wise to ask for validation of the debt. A legitimate collector would have provided it. Keep the evidence that the loan was repaid and try not to worry. We are written about what to do when you receive a call before. Perhaps it will be useful to you.
Just because they have a lot of information about you does not mean it’s legitimate. These companies are somehow getting access to very detailed information about consumers who applied for and
serve me papers. She lives in Chicago and I live in southern Illinois. I called to see what was going on just to find out it’s a bill I’ve already paid off. The person on the phone told me that my account was just sold to them and they hired a locator to find me to serve me papers. They did not want to serve me at work. I told her it was paid off in July and she said I had to get a “Pay in Full” letter from the collector and they would drop it. I called Asset Management and they are sending me a letter. Asset gave me the corporate number for The Cash Store, I called and was told it was fraud and to stop all contact with this company. I’m still going to send in my “pay in full” letter but if I get anything from BOR again I’m going to go after them for violations of the law. This is ridiculous. I keep good records of all my payments and debts (I’ve had many over the years), I know a lot of people do not. They would have just paid them.
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Crystal – It could be a scam or it could be a legitimate collection. They being detective sound suspect but to know for sure, you’ll need more information from them. For step-by-step instructions on how to deal with a collector when they call, this resource can help:
IT WAS A SCAM !!!!
This morning I received a call, and my father did as well, from 716-244-6551. I was given a number ID. I do not answer unknown numbers. I call back after hearing a voice mail. My dad told me that they issued a warrant for my arrest in Bexar County. I called them back because the voicemail they left was basically stating the same thing.
bb – Unfortunately, the likelihood of getting your money back after a scam is next to nil, especially with them being prepaid cards. Whatever you do, do not send them any more money and as Gerri said in a previous way, “Consumers should never send a prepaid card to pay a debt collector. Not only is this a method of payment for the scammers who take the money and run, you will have no record of the payment if it was a legitimate debt. ”
I did not give her my new address. I know the debt is not mine and sound bogus. As my bank representative pointed out it, if the debt was real I would have noticed either the money being withdrawn or would have seen a bunch overdrawn transactions. The Account was active until last week when I closed it. So he said the only way they do not get paid is if you withdraw all your money or you close the account the loan is linked to. So that’s what’s setting off some red flags that this may be scam.
Visitors to Credit.com are also able to register for a free Credit.com account, which gives them access to a tool called The Credit Report Card. This tool provides users with two free credit scores and a breakdown of the information in their Experian credit report, updated twice a month. Again, this tool is completely free, and we mention that often in our articles, because we think it’s a good thing for users to have access to data like this. Separate from its educational value, there is also a business angle to the Credit Report Card. Registered users can be matched with products and services for which they are most likely to qualify. In other words, if you register and you find that your credit is less than stellar, Credit.com will not recommend a high-end platinum credit card that requires an excellent credit score You would probably be rejected, and that’s no good for you or credit.com. You would be more likely to get a product you need, there would be a wasted inquiry on your credit report, and Credit.com would not get paid. These are essentially what are commonly referred to as “targeted ads” in the world of the Internet. Despite all of this, even if you do not apply for any product, the Credit Report Card will remain free, and none of this will impact how the editorial team reports on credit and credit scores.
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I was just on creditkarma last night and woke up to a voicemail from someone telling me to call them back or it would result in a warrant for my arrest. They told me I had 1400 and they would settle for 700 they had my personal info including ss #. They said I had till 1pm this same day to pay. I called the courts in Illinois and they did not know anything about it. I called the company back and they were aggressive and yelled saying they were submitting it early now do not call us ever again. Now you will get arrested by cook county Illinois but I’m a Wisconsin resident.
couple months ago stating that I had taken out a loan in Aug of 2012. They said they had papers for me and that I had to pay right away to avoid legal action. They gave me the bank account number and checking account number that the money was deposited in, had my social security number and knew where
DEYOUNG: I had written that paper, and had I know 100 percent of the facts about where the data came from and who paid for it – yes, I would have disclosed that. I do not think it’s one way or the other in terms of what the research found and what the paper says.
I called back and a man answered and said that the debt was a payday loan that is more than two years old. I sent a stop and desist letter to the payday loan company back then, and even then they would not leave me alone. I had to contact the California State Department of Corporations and the state attorney general’s
new regulations could reduce the total volume of short-term loans, including payday loans but other types as well, by roughly 60 percent.
WERTH: So far, so good. But I think we should mention two things here: one, Fusaro had a co-author on the paper. Her name is Patricia Cirillo; she’s the president of a company named Cypress Research, which is by the way, is the same survey firm that produced data for the paper you mentioned earlier, about how payday borrowers are pretty good at predicting when they will be able to pay back their loans. And the other point, two, there was a long chain of e-mails between Marc Fusaro, the academic researcher here, and the CCRF. And what they show is they really look like editorial interference.
Have a message today from “Courtney” claiming to be a self-employed server and that I am scheduled to be published on the 21st. She said she normally does not call forward but because of the situation she was this time. She said if I was uncomfortable receiving papers for which I did not know about that to contact the originating company. Then she left their number 855-461-0744 and a “case number”. The first thing I did is try to lookup the phone number but no reference to it anywhere on the interwebs? Okay, start to sound fishy. So I call the number, but of course it’s after 7pm Eastern (4: 30p for me) so I get a chance to leave a voicemail. The voicemail greeting was for Jonathan Vadeer?
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I’ve been receiving similar phone calls from 877-824-6758 and 866-981-6854, from a guy named “Bill Davis” and a woman named “Amy Rogers” who claims to Bill’s “partner” .. they first called my work and left a message with my supervisor, claiming that they have two charges against me and that if I do not contact them they are going to serve me at work. Then the call to my cell and the threatening messages followed. I finally blocked them on my cell. So, “Amy” called my brother’s phone and left a message for him, saying that I had charges against me and I was being taken to court. This really ****** me off !! What can be done to stop these people? Can I report them to the police? !!! I’m getting fed up !!!
It starts like this: “Except for the ten to twelve million people who use them every year, just about everybody hates payday loans. Their detractors include many law professors, consumer advocates, members of the clergy, journalists, policymakers, and even the President! But is all the enmity justified? ”
I’ve never heard of Money More or Money, but received a letter (very unprofessional actually signed in ink) by some small time debt collector claiming I pay or settlement (Payback & Associates, Henderson. places appear to be in NV).
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Hi, I’ve been a victim of these payday loans the calls and threathens me that i will be brought up on charges these guys need to get caught they are usually foreingers that call i just rec eived two miore calls from # 818 659-5712 and661 752-5174 i want to report these people how do i go about this so we can catch these thugs i have stressed out over this i need help … sincerely paul giordano ny
You will want to monitor your credit carefully
Crystal – Old payday loan collection effort like this is very often scams. So you should proceed very cautiously and assume it is a scam unless they can really prove otherwise. Ask them to send you a written notice of the debt by snail mail, not email. (Email is too easy to be fake) it’s a good idea to get it out of the world.
numbers online and it looks they dont exist. I’m trying to report them before someone else becomes a victim.
I have suppose to be a Payday Loan Recovery Group with the phone number 1 877 258 1188 saying that Net Loan USA has sent my name to them for a payment I know nothing about and they are going to garnish my check, I just do not know what to do They have too much information on me and I do not know what they are able to do, I wonder how they got my information. I have someone calling me they are from Allegal Dept. ACS. Asking for money. I looked them up and they are a ripoff.The number they call from is 813 262 0349.
I got a call yesterday from a company called PDLR. This woman’s name was ms. ingram and she did not have an accent like a lot of the companies sited here. She said she was trying to settle a payday loan that I supposedly did not pay before they starte wage garnishments. She could not tell me who the original loan was with-said they were not a collection agency but that the original company did not send paerwork to me that was returned when I requested proof of the debt. The number they called from was 630-844-5678. Neither the company name or phone number popped up when i googled, but this is clearly a scam. I called back the number and the same person answered, but she did not identify a company. As far as I’m concerned, they can pound salt.
with a case # So I immediately called back and a lady answered as “United” and asked for my case #. I gave it to her and she said I owe for a PDL from Sept 2011 with ACE. I do not remember having a loan with them. I have had PDLs before and thought I’ve forgot about it. I Todd them I’m on maternity leave and have no income. Then she transferred me to her supervisor because she was monitoring the call and wanted to try and work something out with me. He asked if Ihad people I can borrow the money from because if it does not get paid I will go to court and be charged with fraud check. Scared the crap out of me! So he said I can pay $ 150 by Jan 25th and the rest by Feb 22. I asked why I never got anything in the mail. He asked if the address he had was right, it was an address that I moved out of in June 2011. So he said that’s why. He said I had to get the payment plan with a debit card. I was stupid and gave it to him. The last few days I’ve been thinking about it because I just did not remember this loan. Then I remembered that in AZ they have no real payday loans, they were outlawed in 2010. Now they give you a loan off your car registration or title. So if I defaulted then they would have come and taken my car. Also, IF you give them a check it has to be a voided check. So how can I have a bad check if they can not cash it being that it was voided? So … .does it sounds like my situation is also a scam? If so I probably need to cancel my card.
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I’ve been getting phone messages from a place that calls themselves “fraud division” with a Nebraska number claiming that it had taken out a loan in 2013 (which I have not), they claim that if I did not come up with 1169.50 of which I had to pay half today that they were going to forward the
Maybe that’s about as good as it gets on the fringe. Outrage is easy, and outrage is warranted-but maybe payday lenders should not be its main target. The problem is not just that people who desperately need a $ 350 loan can not get it at a affordable rate, but that a growing number of people need that loan in the first place.
I’ve been getting this guy “Mike Laursen from statewide mediation” saying I’m on payday loan back in 2013 I have not got a payday loan I’ve looked but did not do this guy was calling me from 2 different numbers (855 -201-4847 and 877-343-4510) then when I told him it was fraud he was calling with an unknown number he got $ 45 from me but i talked with my local police about this he said it waS
I’m very leary about calling them back and giving them my current address as I do not have them to have another piece of the puzzle if this is a scam. It’s just that the lady not only sounded sympathetic but did give me good good advice in this case is the theft ID. but again if the debt was real and even if someone used my ID to get these loans the PayDay Loan companies had a current and active bank account that could have accessed.
Other loan features can vary. For example, payday loans are often structured to be paid off in one lump-sum payment. Some state laws allow lenders to “rollover” or “renew” a loan when it becomes so that the consumer pays only the due due and the lender extends the due date of the loan. In some cases, payday loans may be structured so that they are refundable in installments over a longer period of time.
I just got a call from this company saying I got a payday loan off line and I never paid for it. He gave me information that anyone could have gotten when you apply for a payday loan online. He said that I would be arrested and jailed if I did not pay $ 1,000 immediately when he stared saying this I asked for the name of the company and he was hesitant to give me the name and i gotggled it and found all of the complaints about the company. I did not believe it because none of the payday loans that I have, have been from the internet. It’s funny because I’m typing this one from USA CASH Advance # 904-900-8462. These people should be stopped.
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