Ok I got a phone call today for my husband. I know he took out a payday loan 2 years ago and it’s with the people these guys claim they are collecting for. They want my debit card number so that my husband is not “served” and go to court or jail for check fraud. My question here is that they can even go for criminal action for a “fraud check” that was not even technically checked since it was all done online. Also, should I just pay them? They said they are Lincoln or the number is 877-607-5668 I have no problem resolving a legitimate debt but I do not want to get scammed either.
bb – Unfortunately, the likelihood of getting your money back after a scam is next to nil, especially with them being prepaid cards. Whatever you do, do not send them any more money and as Gerri said in a previous way, “Consumers should never send a prepaid card to pay a debt collector. Not only is this a method of payment for the scammers who take the money and run, you will have no record of the payment if it was a legitimate debt. ”
They left me a voice message saying that I would be served some paperwork between 12 & 4pm monday. And if I was not at home they would come by my job. I called them at 3:30 Monday and they said there was a problem having to be ready tomorrow or take care of it today. I asked who was from they said B & G payday loan I took out in 2011 for $ 500.00. I told them I never heard of them and just served me the paperwork. He got an attitude saying I should pay and it’s more because it’s so late. He sounded like he was high on drugs and his phone was breaking up and his raspy voice I could barely
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WERTH: He was communicating with CCRF’s chairman, a lawyer named Hilary Miller. He is the president of the Payday Loan Bar Association. And he’s testified before Congress on behalf of payday lenders. And as you can see in the e-mails between him and Fusaro, again the professor here, Miller was not only reading drafts of the paper but he was making all kinds of suggestions about the paper’s structure, its tone, its content. And finally what you see is Miller writing whole paragraphs that go pretty much verbatim straight into the finished paper.
Jason – It absolutely sounds like the classic overseas payday loan scam. Do not send them a penny. Remember, in the US a debt collector is required to send notification of the debt to you in writing. If he does not, he’s breaking the law. Report these guys to the FTC and your state attorney general.
DEYOUNG: Studies that have looked at this have found that once you control for the demographics and income levels in these areas and these communities, the racial characteristics no longer drive the location decisions. As you can expect, business people do not care what color their customers are, as long as their money’s green.
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The CFPB does not have the authority to limit interest rates. Congress does. So what the CFPB is asking for is that payday lenders either thoroughly evaluate the borrower’s financial profile or limit the number of rollovers for a loan, and offer easy refund terms. Payday lenders say even these regulations may just be put out of business – and they may be right. The CFPB estimates that the
DUBNER: Wowzer. That does sound pretty damning – that the head of a research group funded by payday lenders is essentially ghostwriting parts of an academic paper that happens to reach pro-payday lending conclusions. Were you able to speak with Marc Fusaro, the author of the paper?
DUBNER: Well, Christopher, that defense sounds, at least to me, like pretty weak sauce. I mean, the university writing center does not have as much vested interest in the outcome of my writing as an industry group does for an academic paper about that industry, right?
I worked. I got all the information from the lady (who at the point was very nice and helpful). I then contacted my bank and requested bank statements for August and had no deposit from any other than my employer in my account. My bank told me it was a scam and not to worry about it. A couple of days later they called back for the money to avoid legal action. I told them I had bank statements
I’ve been getting these calls. They are also calling my job that I did not have at the time of this alleged loan. I do not want this to affect my job. They’ve called back to back and would not say who they are with and would not agree to send me a letter, saying they have sent several email. There is a call coming through right now while I’m writing this from 1243521256 and yes that’s all of the numbers … eh caller fraud ID as well. What is the name of Vaness? and gave a call back from 650-835 – ???? number. Omg! I am about to file a police report and open a FTC Case in my state.
A debt collector is required by law to send you notification of the debt within 5 business days of that initial phone call. Once they do that you are entitled to request verification of the debt. Have you received anything in writing? Did you ask them to send you something in writing? If it turns out you think they are legit then you also want to check out the rules of limitations: Statute of Limitations On Debt Collection by State. Please be careful not to pay a debt you do not have.
couple months ago stating that I had taken out a loan in Aug of 2012. They said they had papers for me and that I had to pay right away to avoid legal action. They gave me the bank account number and checking account number that the money was deposited in, had my social security number and knew where
MANN: If your first is that none of the people using this product would do it if they really understood what was going on – well, that just does not seem to
, unless you have to show up and prove it.
Establish the correct entity that should rightfully receive payments on this debt. If you are going to settle on a letter stating the settlement terms. It has to state that on payment of $ x the debt will be deemed as “settled in full.” Then keep that payment proof for life. These C.A. resell your debt later to another C.A. and then it’s the same story collections all over again.
I have been arrested and jailed on felony charges. I asked for a company name and was told it was the Office of Financial Affairs and was given two numbers … .one that is listed for Nebraska and one for Ohio … ladies call themselves Inspector Stewart and Amy Strickland …… they would not tell me who the alleged lender is other than Direct Lending who is affiliated with cashnet USA, payday lending … ..they had my social number, last known work place and checking actor number as well as my mailing address … .they hung up on me once when I asked questions and then “Inspector Stewart” had to go to someone else when she could not answer my questions and then became rude and told me that I needed to shut up long enough for her to tell me what would happen to me if I don ‘ t settle today out of court … ..they are very convincing except for the fact that I have no loans with anyone like that …… i spoke to my bank to give them a head up
I am receiving threatening call from 877-673-8289, they left a message but also spoke with my father at my house. On the message they guy talk so fast but I think the name is Darrell Hines. He tried to say he was a court processor and that they were coming to my house and working to server me papers for check fraud and he also told my father this on the phone. In the message the only number given is the one above and that is for “Payday Solutions” which I found out when I returned the call. They later called back and asked for my daughter by name. I plan to follow through with this company and the company at the FTC and the Texas Attorney General’s office.
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any other information. The payday borrower then writes a check – and this is the key part of the technology – the payday borrower then writes a check for the amount of the loan and postdates it by two weeks. And this becomes the collateral for the loan. So payday will not pay the loan in two weeks, the payday lender then deposits the check.
We are working on some of our payday loans clients and they are getting these same calls. One of the customers were scared in paying them until I looked it up. They said they were from payday loan recovery group. Saying she owed a loan from 2008 for 1,200 and she could pay it in full for $ 399. She was scared in paying but I told her to cancel her creid card before it went through. They send her an invoice on the decline. The processing company is http:
Hey I’ve been getting calls from a bryan agent claiming to be from The Fraudulent Investigation Department. Number is 3474180337. He had a thick accent. He has threatened to come arrest me at my work place. Has anyone else heard of this company. Are they scanners? Also second company I missed the name but number number is 6303320770. This guy name was adam woods. He has been threatening me all day I have to go to western union and transfer money to them. I believe this is a scam. He says I will be arrested if I do not. Any suggestions
Sadly, these types of scammers are good at what they do and very convincing. They prey on consumers that are not aware of the rules and use scare tactics to convince them otherwise. You hit the nail on the head with this:
One big advice PEOPLE !! Try to avoid giving out your personal information. Avoid any suspicious telemarketing calls (they get your info) or sign any document at your doorstep … This decade is FULL of scammers … so DO NOT get cheated!
I did not give her my new address. I know the debt is not mine and sound bogus. As my bank representative pointed out it, if the debt was real I would have noticed either the money being withdrawn or would have seen a bunch overdrawn transactions. The Account was active until last week when I closed it. So he said the only way they do not get paid is if you withdraw all your money or you close the account the loan is linked to. So that’s what’s setting off some red flags that this may be scam.
DIANE STANDAERT: From the data we’ve seen, payday loans are disproportionately concentrated in African-American and Latino communities, and that African-American and Latino borrowers are disproportionately represented among the borrowing population.
Do not give them access to your checking account, they will clean you out. Instead send in a check or MO by CMRRR. No offer letter, no check and get off the phone. They want money from you they will send it. And do not be intimidated by that favorite phrase of theirs that they will record “refusal to pay” against you. Big deal, bite my ankle. It means squat and has no legal standing at all.
call from Niagra Capital Services Inc. About a loan from 2010 when I lived in New Jersey. He said he has a legal complaint about me. He has my new phone number, where I used to work as well as my new address in a different state. He said with interest I owe about $ 1,500, but will settle for $ 560. I asked him to email me the info, (since he has my email address) I have taken the name of the payday loan company that I took out the loan with. I remember that I paid hundreds of over what I borrowed. I emailed him back and asked for the original paperwork associated with the loan. I did some research and found that payday loans are illegal in the state of New Jersey. It’s been over 4 years. What can I do?
I got a voicemail yesterday from Jacklyn Shriver or Traver (could not understand her). She addressed me with my full name and then said “also known as” and said my maiden name. She sounded very stern and threatening. She said she had to check out some info, kind of rambled about different things, basically saying if I do not contact the firm she will show up in person at my home or place of employment. Instructed me to call the firm at 1-877-698-2249 and said something like “you have been notified.
I received a call from [redacted] indicating that she had an order to complete about the charges for distribution of fraudulant text related to the social security number and provided she would be serving these documents to me at my home address. address] today and if service could not be made they would contact my employer and inform them that service would take place at their premises. She said if I had any questions or wanted to set an alternative service to contact the complainant’s attorney at [redacted]. I work at an attorney’s office so I brought this to the attention of an attorney in our office. He called the number, and identified himself as my attorney. The gentleman was very rude and said he could not discuss it with him without a letter of recommendation and that when I received the papers I could bring them to the attorney to review. When he said I was present and would like to ask what was about he still refused to give any information and again said to wait for the papers to be served. My attorney asked him if he was familiar with the fair debt practice act and the gentleman said it was not about a debt. I later called him back if he could please let me know what was all about and he again refused because he says I have a counsel, though he previously refused to tell my attorney any information because there was no letter of representation. The man was very rude and hung up on me. I called back and again asked to please be given any information about the issue, he said he could give me information but was choosing not to and again hung up on me. I called back and said it was a policy to not discuss the matter if I am represented by the counsel. I asked if their company [redacted] was the one suing me or someone else and he said it was them. I asked if he could please at least tell me what court was being filed in. After a very exasperated sigh and some computer typing, he said it was being filed in [county I lived in 8 years ago] through the office of [provided the name of prosecuting attorney for that office]. I then called that prosecuting attorney’s office and let them know about the call and asked if they had any cases with my name, which they did not have and suggested that maybe it was a civil case. I then called the circuit clerk’s office and again told them the situation and asked if anything had been filed with my name and they had nothing. After bringing this information back to my attorney he said it was very likely to scam and to inform the Attorney General’s office. I called and gave the Attorney General’s office all the information and was again told that it was very likely a scam. I suppose we will see if I have anything to do in the next few days …
It sounds like if the caller is breaking the law; a collection agency can not send you to jail. Read 5 Things to Debt Collector Should Never Say “and 11 Ways to Debt Collector May Be Breaking the Law for more information and advice on how to handle calls.
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MARC FUSARO: The Consumer Credit Research Foundation and I had an interest in the paper being as clear as possible. And if anyone, including Hilary Miller, would take a paragraph that I had written and re-wrote it in a way that made what I was trying to say more clearly, I’m happy for that kind of advice. I’ve taken papers to the university writing center before and they’ve helped me make my writing more clear. And there’s nothing scandalous about that, at all. I mean the results of the paper have never been called into question. Nobody had suggested I changed any other results or anything like that based on any comments from anybody. Frankly, I think this is much ado about nothing.
I’ve been receiving similar phone calls from 877-824-6758 and 866-981-6854, from a guy named “Bill Davis” and a woman named “Amy Rogers” who claims to Bill’s “partner” .. they first called my work and left a message with my supervisor, claiming that they have two charges against me and that if I do not contact them they are going to serve me at work. Then the call to my cell and the threatening messages followed. I finally blocked them on my cell. So, “Amy” called my brother’s phone and left a message for him, saying that I had charges against me and I was being taken to court. This really ****** me off !! What can be done to stop these people? Can I report them to the police? !!! I’m getting fed up !!!
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