In a vicious cycle, the higher the permitted fees, the more stores, the lesser customers each store serves, so the higher the fees need to be. Competition, in other words, does reduce profits to lenders, as expected – but it seems to carry no benefit to consumers, at least as measured by the rates they are charged. (The old loan sharks may have been able to charge lower rates because of lower overhead, although it’s impossible to know.) Mayer thinks the explanation may have more to do with the differences in the customer base: Because alternative alternatives were sparse back then, these lenders served a more diverse and overall more creditworthy set of borrowers, so default rates were likely lower.)
You do your best to ask as many questions as you can of the research and of the researchers themselves. You ask where the data comes from, whether it means really what they say it means, and you ask them to explain why they might be wrong, or compromised. You make the best judgment you can, and then you move forward and try to figure out how the research really matters. Because the whole idea of the research, is likely to help solve some big problem.
This is too much for me at least. These are Indian scammers. They do not care and it’s a scam. They are out to get you. So I take that seriously. I found out a nicely loud sports air horn magic works. I blow it into the phone. Nobody dared to call me back and that was it. I shared this with a few friends and it worked. I guess they needed their other ear intact. So I guess they call someone else. If that is you, do the same. I am determined to send them to another career with one ear messed up. I do not care because they do not either if they manage to scam me.
caller states they will be taking legal action, that the sheriff will be at my house or work place to serve me with papers. Knows my address and date of birth and employer. Says I owe $ 1,100.00. He says I can have my lawyer can him. He speaks with a foriegn accent and sounds exactly like the guy who called 2 months ago for another company threatening the same thing. I paid the debt last time I got SCAMED? The name the guy gave was Mr. Flood and number was 310-999-0442. Please help me !!
You may want to contact the IRS about the status of your tax return. I’m unaware as to why an outside company would be holding it or having access to it. (unless you have a judgment
Funny thing is, they have a website but anyone can get a website these days. They are also listed in the BBB website with a C- rating. C- because of complaints. Their website domain is via GoDaddy. Now thats classy.
I just got a call from this company saying I got a payday loan off line and I never paid for it. He gave me information that anyone could have gotten when you apply for a payday loan online. He said that I would be arrested and jailed if I did not pay $ 1,000 immediately when he stared saying this I asked for the name of the company and he was hesitant to give me the name and i gotggled it and found all of the complaints about the company. I did not believe it because none of the payday loans that I have, have been from the internet. It’s funny because I’m typing this one from USA CASH Advance # 904-900-8462. These people should be stopped.
I’ve never heard of Money More or Money, but received a letter (very unprofessional actually signed in ink) by some small time debt collector claiming I pay or settlement (Payback & Associates, Henderson. places appear to be in NV).
DEYOUNG: Yes, I like to think of myself as an objective observer of social activity, as an economist. But there is one section of the blog where we highlight mixed evidence. That helps you to reduce the risk of money at home level. And we also point to, I believe, an equal number of studies in that section that find the exact opposite. And then of course there is another section in the blog where we point directly to rollovers and rollovers is where the rubber hits the road on this. If we can somehow predict which folks will not be able to handle this product and will roll it over incessantly, then we can impress on payday lenders not to make the loans to those people. This product, in fact, is especially badly suited to predict this because the payday lender gets a small number of pieces of information when she makes the loan, as opposed to the information that a regulated financial institution would collect. The cost of collecting that information, of underwriting the loan in the traditional way that a bank would be, would be too high for the payday to offer the product. If we load up additional costs on the production of these loans, the loans will not be profitable any longer.
I received a recorded call at work that said I had written a bad check and would be sent court papers at home or at work that day. The message then left 1888-786-0630 or 1888-390-5129 to call to try to settle or plan a payment plan. I got really scared and called the number. The lady said she was from Johnson York LLC and that they are middle man to recover past due payday loans. I do not think I owe this debt, but I was so shaken that I paid them $ 50, and set up a payment plan of $ 200 a month to pay a total of $ 960.00. She sent me an email receipt but it does not look legitimate to me. Their logo is weird, there is no address, and no website. She said it’s a loan with quick cash. I tried to google quick cash and nothing comes up. I do not want to keep them if this is a scam, and I guess the worst that could happen is to be served or have my check garnished? I just do not like the fact that they are calling my work place. Should I call them back and ask them for their address, business license and for the original paperwork for the debt? I’m not sure if this is a real collection agency. Please help!
“I do not think they’ll be back, because I told them that it’s federal law to send me something written in the mail before trying to collect the debt from me” – Surprisingly, once they know that you know the laws (and better than they do), they typically do back and give up. Thank you for sharing your story, it shows that knowing and understanding your rights can help protect you from being a victim.
I worked. I got all the information from the lady (who at the point was very nice and helpful). I then contacted my bank and requested bank statements for August and had no deposit from any other than my employer in my account. My bank told me it was a scam and not to worry about it. A couple of days later they called back for the money to avoid legal action. I told them I had bank statements
I had a similar call last week claiming I defaulted on a PDL from 2008 which I took out and also did pay back in full when it was due. They are threatening me with court and possible criminal prosecution for cheating fraud. The name of the person who called was Timothy and he was calling from something called ADR firm at behalf of his client. He said the client is BG Capital Associates and that they bought the debt from Money and More (who is the company I had the PDL through back in 2008. The phone # they called from and also had me back was 716-748-6566 and 716-748-6519. Has anybody heard of these people or had similar experience?
We have been scammed by these same people as aboved for the pasts 6, yrs now! They say all that stuff. I have paid them over and over. Thinking it was a different company. They just called my husband again at his work last week and cussed him out again. We only had three in the first place and now they are just making things up. They have been paid so many times We would like to be left alone.
The payday industry, and some political allies, argue that the CFPB is trying to deny credit to people who really need it. Now, it’s not surprising you that the payday industry does not want this kind of government regulation. Nor should it surprise you that a government agency called the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is trying to regulate an industry like the payday industry.
the time frame and closed the account. Even the gentleman of the bank said it is a fishy because Payday loans are auto withdrawls and if it’s in person and the person does not pay the collateral account is charged. The only way to pay is to close the account.
So, the payday business model is not like pawn shop, where you surrender your valuable possessions to raise cash. To get a payday loan, you need to have a job and a bank account. According to Pew survey data, some 12 million Americans – roughly 1 in 20 adults – take out a payday loan in a given year. They tend to be relatively young and earn less than $ 40,000; they tend to not have a four-year college degree; and while the most common borrower is a white female, the rate of borrowing is the highest among the minorities.
I just had this happen and
DeYOUNG: Well, in a short sentence that’s very scientific I would start by saying, “Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.” The question comes down to how we identify the water here and how do we identify the baby here. One way is to collect a lot of information, as the CFPB suggests, about the creditworthiness of the borrower. But that brings up production cost of payday loans and will probably put the industry out of business. But I think we can all agree that once someone pays a fee in an aggregate amount equal to the amount that was originally borrowed, that’s pretty clear that there’s a problem there.
But if the only explanation for high rates were that lenders can, so they do, you would expect to see an industry awash in profits. It is not, especially today. Ernst & Young released a study, commissioned by the Financial Service Centers of America, to find that the ‘average profit margin before tax and interest was less than 10 percent. (For the sake of comparison, over the past five quarters, the consumer-financial-services industry has averaged a pre-profit profit rate of more than 30 percent, according to CSIMarket, a provider of financial information.) A perusal of those financial statements that are public confirms a simple fact: As payday lending exploded, the economics of the business worsened-and are today no better than middling. The Community Financial Services Association argues that at 36 percent rate cap, the one in place for members of the military, is a death knell because payday lenders can not make money at that rate, and this seems to be correct. In states that their rates are at 36% per year or lower, the payday lenders vanish. In New York, which caps payday
Does a researcher who’s out to make a splash with some sexy finding necessarily work with more bias than a researcher who’s working out of pure intellectual curiosity? I do not think that’s necessarily so. Like life itself, academic research is a case-by-case scenario.
I b. I have been receiving the same calls from Jason and Ms. Thomas from the same company in Illinois. (ALSO, SAID THEY WOULD GARNISH WAGES AND REVOKE MY LICENSE) They have now started employing americans to make these calls to make it sound legit. So I advised that I have been recording these calls for the FBI investigation that I am involved in. I am a professional lawyer and debt collector can not call you without verifying that they have the correct person and that would be done via certified mail with a summons and complaint against you. Also, if the collector such as Jason Locke and Ms. Thomas from 877-601-5871 Ext 259 and 877-601-5871 Ext 251 were real debt collectors they would have to provide written proof of the original loan, copies of the e-sign agreement between you and the lender, account numbers, telephone numbers for the lender etc … This guy Jason did not know his own address when I asked him and he could not confirm my full social security number. Also, one tip to remember is legit collectors have to say the following statement before talking with you “This is a try to collect a debt etc.”, so remember that. The unfortunately was scammed out of $ 500.00 a few years ago and I paid the fees and sent fax to them
I worked for a credit bureau. If there is a dispute item on your credit report. You may have marked the dispute and the law of the FDCRA the credit bureau must be able to supply you with the verification of the debt within 30 days. If not it must be removed from your file.
Ok I got a phone call today for my husband. I know he took out a payday loan 2 years ago and it’s with the people these guys claim they are collecting for. They want my debit card number so that my husband is not “served” and go to court or jail for check fraud. My question here is that they can even go for criminal action for a “fraud check” that was not even technically checked since it was all done online. Also, should I just pay them? They said they are Lincoln or the number is 877-607-5668 I have no problem resolving a legitimate debt but I do not want to get scammed either.
with a clear copy of your Driver’s License and Social Security Card with your sign on it to get it released. Fax number is 206-426-3556. Please give attention to Alicia Fields. Also write your name or your case file number. And also you can send me email if you have any questions or queries.
I was contacted by the same company and paid. Did not receive a receipt either. Then I contacted the company they said I supposedly owed the money to. The payday loan company looked up my info and said I had never had a loan with them and advised me to call my bank. My Bank is now going after PDLR group for fraud.
We had never heard of this happening until we got a call today from 410-843-2822. They had left a message with my fiance and when I returned the calll they first said “hello”, which struck me as strange, since this was supposedly a law office. When I asked for the name of the company he kept trying to verify info. When Chad (my fiance) got on the phone they started telling him that he should answer q’s carefully as they could be used against him in court. They said that the case would be ‘downloaded’ with the courts – what kind of lawyer says that? We had applied for several loans, and had only accepted one – what we were paying back. The amount they said we owed we had never been quoted. The other strange thing is that although they both had very strong indian accents, they used very unlikely names – the supervisor said his name was Jack O’Connor. ?? ?? DO NOT FALL FOR THIS !!!! We told them to send us something in the mail and not to call again.
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There’s one more thing I want to add to today’s discussion. The payday-loan industry is, in a lot of ways, a simple target. But the more I think about it, the more it looks like a symptom of a bigger problem, which is this: remember, to get a payday loan, you need to have a job and a bank account. So what does it say about an economy in which millions of working people make so little money that they can not pay their bills, that they can not absorb one hit like a ticket for smoking in public?
In a typical handgun injury, which I diagnose almost daily, leaf bullet in laceration through an organ such as the liver. To a radiologist, it appears as a linear, thin, gray bullet track through the organ. There may be bleeding and some bullet fragments.
Other loan features can vary. For example, payday loans are often structured to be paid off in one lump-sum payment. Some state laws allow lenders to “rollover” or “renew” a loan when it becomes so that the consumer pays only the due due and the lender extends the due date of the loan. In some cases, payday loans may be structured so that they are refundable in installments over a longer period of time.
Do not consider paying. You could consider blocking the number. But ask for a prepaid debit card is a sign of a scammer. Please read this post about that: The One Way You Should Never Pay Debt Collector
They are scammers calling from India with spoofed numbers to appear as though they are within US. Since they are out to get you, well you get them instead. Next time they call just loud air horn in the phone. They never dare call back. They are usually looking for someone to victimize easily and they get it that is not you.
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