Debt Collection Scammer
I was called yesterday and the call said that my payday loan was in default. If I did not pay the amount they would send me to court. Can i go to jail !? They kept using the term “financial fraud” which freaked me out! I did not pay the amount yesterday so they said I would get served today. What’s going to happen? Can I get I jail for this !?
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DeYOUNG: They do not overdraft the checking account and take out the payday loan because they’ve done the calculus. That overdrafting on four or five checks at their bank is going to cost them more money than taking out the payday loan.
DUBNER: Hey Christopher. So, as I understand it, much of what you’ve learned about CCRF’s involvement in the payday research comes from a watchdog group called the Campaign for Accountability, or CFA? So, first off, tell us a bit more about them, and what their incentives may be.
Do not panic. You have the right under the federal law to request the verification of the debt and the debt collector must provide it. They also must provide you with their contact information if you request it. So next time they call, ask for their mailing address. If they do not give it to you then they are either a. a scam or b. a rogue collector who is breaking the law.
My mom is going through this right now. These people are called Empire State Arbitration. They gave him the name of a bank-First Federal Bank of Delaware. They would not give her the phone number of the address. We asked for a file number or dovket number and she would not give me any information on the company I supposedly owe to. I called her and asked her to fax me all the papers she had on the file. She said she could not do that I said I have a right to see all the paperwork for a debt I owed. She was very rude and even hung up on me … I’ve talked to a few legitimate collector’s and even when I was rude they were still very polite..As it turns out my mom already gave them her info to take the payments out … I need help asap! There number is 18444828780
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This same Michael Moore had contacted me about 6 months ago, from a different #, with the same story of serving papers for my arrest about 6 months ago but that I owed money to PDL Loan for November 2008 … which I’m sure I do not owe, and I should send a payment immedately to settle claim.
I received a call today from # 209-910-6390. Could not catch the name as he spoke very fast and with a deep accent. He claimed that he was calling on behalf of Cash Advance America USA that was suing me for $ 15,000 for a faulty payday loan of $ 2800.00. I let him give his little talk without interrupting and he told me that someone would be here Friday at 11:00 a.m. to take me to California for my court date on Monday at 11:00 a.m. Beware these guys are getting very crafty and make a lot of stuff that they say they believe. Please DO NOT believe these guys. I just told him thank you for the call and that I would be contacting the FBI about the call because I knew from the start that it was a scam !!! He just said go ahead and that somebody would be at my work tomorrow.
Other loan features can vary. For example, payday loans are often structured to be paid off in one lump-sum payment. Some state laws allow lenders to “rollover” or “renew” a loan when it becomes so that the consumer pays only the due due and the lender extends the due date of the loan. In some cases, payday loans may be structured so that they are refundable in installments over a longer period of time.
consumers, is going too far. Under the plan it is now considering, lenders would have to make sure that borrowers can repay their loans and cover other living expenses without extensive defaults or reborrowing. These actions would really seem to curtail the possibility of people falling into debt traps with payday lenders. But the industry argues that the rules would be put out of business. And while a self-serving howl of pain is precisely what you would expect from any industry under government fire, this appears, based on the business model, to be true-not only would the regulations eliminate the very loans from which the industry makes its money, but they would also introduce significant new underwriting costs on every loan.
Maybe that’s about as good as it gets on the fringe. Outrage is easy, and outrage is warranted-but maybe payday lenders should not be its main target. The problem is not just that people who desperately need a $ 350 loan can not get it at a affordable rate, but that a growing number of people need that loan in the first place.
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DEYOUNG: This is why price caps are a bad idea. Because if the solution was implemented as I suggest and, in fact, payday lenders lost some of their most profitable customers – because now we’re not getting that fee the 6th and 7th time from them – then the price would have to go up. And we would not let the market determine whether or not at that high price we still have the need to use the product.
Tami – what’s wrong with me is talking about “bad checks” – not about the fact that you have a debt. This makes me think they’re going to tell you that you’re going to be arrested for checking fraud if you do not pay. Again, ask them to send you a written notice of the debt required by the federal law – the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
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I’ve been getting calls from strange numbers lately so I have not answered. On 10
Call went to my MIL’s house. Phone number was 877-334-5288. Said they needed me to call before 5 p.m. I called them, they started the whole laughter about I had an old payday loan and was going to be charged with frud, malicious intent, etc. I stopped the guy and asked for his company name and address and he hung up on me. LOL Think I’m going to call back and try again for the hell of it.
my son just got something in the mail. It claimed that checks were insufficient for a payment. I have wondered if it’s just a scam or fraud by someone using his ID ?? Told him to check with his bank and report this to the police.
I was getting a call in florida saying that if I did not pay or call them back they would send a cop to pick me up and that I had 15 mins to call back..won’t send me any information about anything .. also calling my work saying if I did not call back my bosses would not see me for a long time they said it was state wide adr 1-888-825-3116 they were too aggressive too
We have been scammed by these same people as aboved for the pasts 6, yrs now! They say all that stuff. I have paid them over and over. Thinking it was a different company. They just called my husband again at his work last week and cussed him out again. We only had three in the first place and now they are just making things up. They have been paid so many times We would like to be left alone.
Paulette – Do not let them scare you. Remember if this is the debt collection scam (and it sounds like it is) then just
Creditors are required to provide written verification of a debt within five days of contacting you. They also do not make threats they do not intend to keep – like filing charges. You can find more about your debt collection here:
I googled both numbers but nothing comes up, not even as fraudulent number, so they may be newer numbers. That’s why I wanted to post this in case someone else googles those numbers. She did not disclose any specific information about the charges, did not say it was a debt collection or anything. Did not state the company she works for or the name of the “firm” I’m supposed to call.
I’ve been receiving phone calls from a person who claims to be an investigator and tells me there are charges pending against me for a payday loan from 2009. He gave me the name of a collection agency (Global) that I called and they told me the same thing I really took out a payday loan in 2009 from this “money and more” online company. The loan was repaid and I even faxed copies of the bank statements showing this back in 2009. They say the copies of these statements are not in my file. And this “INVESTIGATOR” well his phone does not accept incoming calls, and he wants me to give him my address to send me sealed documents! I did not give any of my information as I see it, if he found out my cell phone number, then he can find out my address. This man was very rude, very aggressive and very threatening. He continues to call my phone 4 & 5 times a day. I do not know how to get rid of these people. This man, I do not know his name or who he wors for, he gave me no information, only that there were charges against me and my state “bad check writing laws” would be against me as well, pending criminal charges … ..I which often have internet access … but i get my e-mail on my phone, so if anyone would like to e-mail me with helpful information it would be much appreciated. Thank You
He does not want direct bank transfer and does not want money orders as both will leave paper trails right to him. He just wants us to get a pre-paid debit card from the store and put the money on it.
Tiffany – Phone numbers can be easily faked. And “a little convincing” is not good enough. What you need to know is whether they are a legitimate collection agency and you actually owe the debt. The first step is always to ask them to MAIL you information about the debt. That’s required by law. If they do not, then refuse to talk with them until they do. Do not accept email or anything less.
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of course, I got VERY upset! The thought of being locked up from my husband and our kids scared the hot piss outta me! So I went ahead and gave them my pre-paid debit card info and told them that we would try to pay when our money came in and then we wanted to know when we filed. then he put me on to call their client and when he returned to the phone he said we need $ 25 on 2
RONALD MANN: I have a general idea that people who are really tight for money know more where their next dollar is coming from and going than the people that are not particularly tight for money. So, I generally think that the people who borrow from payday lenders have a better idea of how their finances are going to go for the next two or three months because it’s really a crucial item for them that they worry about every day. So that’s what I set out to test.
Check ‘n Go (“we,” “our,” or “us”) provides a deferred deposit transaction. Deferred deposit transactions are subject to a finance charge based on the amount you borrow, the “amount financed.” The larger your amount financed is, the larger the finance charge will be. We offer reperred transactions in $ 5 amount-financing increments ranging from $ 50 to $ 255. The amount you have equals the sum of the amount financed and the finance charge. For example, if you get a $ 255 deferred deposit transaction, then the finance charge is $ 45 and the amount you owe would be $ 300 (ie, $ 255 $ 45).
• Ask the collector for the name and address of the collection agency for which he or she works. Then ask him to send you written information about the debt. Any legitimate debt collection agency will do this because it is required under the federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
Turn the tables on this caller. Tell her you have written written notice of the debt which is your right under federal law. If she refuses to give it to her you will be recording all future calls to turn over the authorities.
WERTH: The best example concerns a economist named Marc Fusaro at Arkansas Tech University. So, in 2011, he released a paper called “Do Payday Loans Trap Consumers in a Cycle of Debt?” And his answer was, basically, no, they do not.
my fiancé has been getting phone calls from someone saying he is an official mike Johnson from 810-223-0563 said he got a loan for $ 300 over the internet but he did not. he applied for some loans but because his credit is bad and no bank account he could not get one. this guy says he got one but he told us where he was from and like most of you he had his name ss # where he works and is threating to have him arrested. We talked to a cop who said that if we had applied for a loan even over the internet they would have mailed out paperwork anyway with PAYMENT OPTIONS and how long you had to pay it back we got nothing and the pretend cop will not give us the It’s a good idea that we have a lot of money, but we have no money for it. what do you do when they keep threatening you and you have no idea what they are talking about.
What they are doing is illegal, and it’s unlikely you are dealing with a legitimate agency. There are some ideas for getting this post (and in the comments): 7 Ways to Stop Debt Collection Scam Calls. It sounds like if their hope is to frighten you into paying.
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The debt collector must send you a written verification of the debt, and is not allowed under federal law to discuss your debt with others. This leads me to believe it is not legitimate. You might want to think about telling her that you will be recording her calls to turn them over to law enforcement, and report these calls to Fraud.org.
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I got a call last week for my husband from 215-987-5464 said his name was Officer John William gave me some Badge #. Said my husband had a complaint against him for Payday Advance Loan from 2011 and the charges were 849.25 with the original loan amt and intest charges and court charges and said he was fixing to issue a warrant for him if we did not pay that amount. I told him I did not have that kinda of money that I would have to set up something on a pmt. I told him I was already in the wrong at the bank but I had overdraft so I could pay the 100.00 today but he said
People this stuff is a SCAM they CAN NOT arrest you for having a faulty payday loan. They first have to take you to court and they CAN NOT contact you by phone to inform you of it. You have to be served from the court of the court and where the court is and who is being taken to court for and for what reasons.
Just got a call from a place called themselves Capital Services. A bit aggressive, had my information, what banking bank has and social security number. I run my credit reports every year. These people said they were representing SJM Marketing for a payday loan I took out in 2009 and was defaulted. I have not seen any such place on my reports. They had my address, but not the one I was living in at the time. They had my wife’s new email address, that she did not have at the time. Their number is 646-354-2096.
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