Elizabeth Warren has endorsed the idea of the Postal Service partnering with banks to offer short-term loans. But even some fellow opponents of payday think that’s unfeasible. In a New York Times op-ed last fall, Frederick Wherry, a sociologist professor at Yale, pointed out that doing this would require the Postal Service to have all new infrastructure, and its new full skills set employees. Another alternative would seem to be online companies, because they do not have the storefront overhead. But they may have difficulty managing the fraud, and they themselves are difficult to police, so they may at times evade state caps on interest rates. So far, the rates charged by many Internet lenders seem to be higher, not lower, than those charged by traditional lenders. (Elevate Credit, which says it has a sophisticated, technological-based way of underwriting loans, brags that its loans for the “new middle class” are half the cost of typical payday loans – but it is selective in its lending, and still charges about 200 percent annually.) Promising out-of-the-box ideas, in other words, are in short supply.
The Twisted Economics of Payday lending can not be separated from its natural predatory. The industry has always insisted that its products are intended for short-term emergency use and that it does not encourage repeat borrowing-the debt trap. “It’s like the tobacco industry saying that smoking does not cause cancer,” says Sheila Bair, former president of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. Study after study has found that repeating borrowing accounts for a large share of the industry’s revenues. Flannery and Samolyk found that “high per-customer loan volume” helps payday lenders cover their overhead and offset defaults. At a financial-service event in 2007, Daniel Feehan, then CEO of the payday lender Cash America, said, according to multiple reports (here and here), “The theory in the business is that you have got that customer , work to turn it into a repetitive customer, long-term customer, because that’s where the profitability is. ”
DUBNER: OK, so this is interesting that a watchdog group that will not reveal its funding is going after an industry to try to influence academics that’s funding. So should we assume that CFA, the watchdog, has some kind of horse in the payday race? Do we just not know?
I have suppose to be a Payday Loan Recovery Group with the phone number 1 877 258 1188 saying that Net Loan USA has sent my name to them for a payment I know nothing about and they are going to garnish my check, I just do not know what to do They have too much information on me and I do not know what they are able to do, I wonder how they got my information. I have someone calling me they are from Allegal Dept. ACS. Asking for money. I looked them up and they are a ripoff.The number they call from is 813 262 0349.
No, debtors are not allowed to threaten you. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is now taking complaints about collection practices. You can file one here:
I just had my first run with one of these “companies.” I immediately knew that it was gibberish but decided to play along. They were immediately taken by the fact I have a British accent but continue their charade. I initially spoke with a woman and the number was 0000. Typically I do not pick up these strange numbers as I assume it’s some sort of scam but I had a itch. She picked up said something and immediately handed the phone over to another counterpart. He of course made claims to a loan I took out in 2008, I believe. Along with fraud check and two other false claims. I immediately said that I was only 16 than though he continued the pressure. Statements of we sent you multiple EMAILS, you’ll receive a summon, etc. After he continued to talk about me I said in a very naive way “He said in his absurdly thick accent” of course. “I than yelled” you such a person I I was a student of law and the likeliness of convincing me of any truth was impossible. “He continued to press me and I slyly said a remark in Spanish than hung up. The fact that I was 16 in said year and British alone should have made him end the call, very foolish tactic. They called me BACK RIGHT AFTER AS WELL. I can also complain of the heavy background noise, completely spineless people praying on Americans suffering through enough of a crisis as is. If I receive another call I will take some of these actions to try and help in ceasing this callous behavior.
Same thing happened to me the same name and number on my phone. The number to get in touch with Ms. Ingram is 1-877- 258- 1188. When asked the name of this company they refused to give information and hung up. Names used are Ms. Barry, Ms. Ingram, and today Ms. Rios. They are threatening me with wage garnishment etc. They refused to give the name of and original debtor. I have no recollection of oweing. Need to know who to call to stop this.
I received a message from the other day from PDLR Group named her Jan Faith to call back at 877-269-0088. I called the next day to find out what this was for. I spoke to Jan who told me I had a payday loan that was back to 2008 or before, but did not have an exact date. The next thing she was telling me that if I did not settle with them TODAY and make a payment with a debit card or a prepaid card for $ 700, I was looking at at least $ 3500 with lawyers costs and court costs but that they will not go to short. She said they would go straight to my HR department to start garnishing my salary. Unfortunately I have applied for payday loan before but have paid back the one I did. I even find a website for Payday Today which is the company I supposedly did the loan with. I asked for written proof of the debt, and all of a sudden was rushed from the phone telling me that I could expect to be called down to HR about this. She said the wage assignment I signed was my forfeit from court, but she wanted to be the best of luck and she hung up. My HR needs a short time
I received a call from Cyrstal from a restricted telephone line that she had papers to serve on my husband in the next day or to call this number 855-212-9406 to find out what it was about. I called and talked with Paul Landon who said it had to do with a payday loan and that if it was not paid, my husband would be served at work. He then went to say the amount was 1,100 but he could wipe it down to 580 if we would pay it right away and he would even let us pay it in 3 payments. I told him I had to talk to my husband and he said not to take as long as he was waiting to have him served and him arrested. Then he gave me his personal number which is 716-462-5680 and the company he works for is Outsource Legal Prep (but I just found this out but doing some internet search – and it seems to be owned by Kevin Walker). I’m glad to have found this out as at first I was scared but now since I know it’s scam I just called them back and told them not to call me back I know it’s a scam and I would turn them in to the proper authorities if they did. Thank you for posting this information.
for a payday cash advance to be sure you are making an informed decision.
Alternative Financial Services: Innovating to Meet Customer Needs in an Evolving Regulatory Framework, by John Hecht, Research Analyst, Stephens Inc. (now at Jefferies & Company Inc.) (February, 2014).
We had a call from Marshall & Fields law office in California, they said, demanding attorney info on an old loan back to 2009 from paydayone, well that has been paid for, then they wanted info, then they called my brother as he was listed I’m sorry, they gave me a number to call back to 740-364-0537 ,, they guy couldnt speak any english but ask the info he asked well i hang up and wait for the next call ,, I hope he understands english as he is going to get an earfull
Do not give them access to your checking account, they will clean you out. Instead send in a check or MO by CMRRR. No offer letter, no check and get off the phone. They want money from you they will send it. And do not be intimidated by that favorite phrase of theirs that they will record “refusal to pay” against you. Big deal, bite my ankle. It means squat and has no legal standing at all.
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here in the states. Pretty much the same crap right now it’s from the homeland. Recently it has been from Obrien, Wexler and Associates 877-334-5288. They called my home and left a message, called my cell, called work and even called my brother that I’m not sure how they got his number. I wonder if they searched it because it has never been on a payday loan app.
WERTH: So, what did Fusaro do when he set up a randomzed control trial where he gave a group of borrowers a traditional high-interest-rate payday loan and then gave another group of borrowers no interest rates on their loans and then he compared the Two and he found out that both groups were just as likely to roll over their loans again. And we should say, again, the research was financed by CCRF.
I have been receiving weird calls from 1-888 ??? The number and recently they stopped and have been appearing as “unknown” on my iPhone. They left me a message saying something about court and I should call them as soon as possible. I deleted the message so I do not remember exactly what it said. So last night my mom returned from work and told me that my aunt told her that they called her at her house asking about me and gave them a name and the name adan alvarez. They scared my aunt and now we’re all scared. My mom is going to call them tomorrow. I’m kind of afraid because my mom is a very gullible woman. She will not call me because I’m 19. I have had a loan for school but it was through finacial aid and it was the kind that I do not have to pay until I graduate from school.
They ARE scams. Offshore scammers who threaten you and your family. I’m threatened to have my CIA brother in law “hellfire down on them and their families that they wish they were never born!” Taken from the scene where Tom Cruise talks to the terrorists in the movie ‘tropic Thunder ‘. I’m going to call them every day until eternity threatens them and their families with serious bodily harm and of course they will just disappear when the CIA catches up to them! Lol!
You can report to your state attorney general office, and you can submit a complaint to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. However, the people you are dealing with may be out of the country or may have a “business” that often changes names. You are wise to ask for validation of the debt. A legitimate collector would have provided it. Keep the evidence that the loan was repaid and try not to worry. We are written about what to do when you receive a call before. Perhaps it will be useful to you.
No Brittany p not being able to pay a debt will not land you in jail nor can not pay a debt fraud. They may be able to sue you for the debt, but if that happens you must be legally served with a notice of the lawsuit. Is this an old payday loan or are you back on a recent one?
I received a call yesterday from a law office stating that they were going to have me arrested for fraud and theft for not paying a payday loan. They said that it had been over 21 days since I made a payment and that if I wanted to go out of court that all I needed to do was put $ 385 on a green dot moneypak card by today. I have taken out two payday loans just recently and just had my first payment due on Friday which I paid. The number that they are calling from is 401-648-7325 by Lisa Green. She also said that the money had been deposited in my account and when they tried to pay out they were not able to. They also did not give me information on when the deposit took place and what company the payday loan was through. This sounds like a lot of the other posts that I have read but I do not want to take the chance of being arrested … what do I do ??
The same number has been harrassing my work place for the past two days. The breifly talked to him and told him that I would call him back after work hours. But no one answers. Now he’s talking to almost everyone here at my work claiming that they are cussing at him. I already told him to stop calling me work. That’s pissing me off, I do not know what else to do!
the eyes of the company i owe it to? Not to mention, if I really did have these debts – where are they on my credit report? So I asked that ALL communications from their company, and the “server” Alex be stopped – they are not to contact me at my place of employment, nor any of my family that have been contacted. So frustrating to know that this company is able to do this.
I just got a call from a very similar number- 855-216-1354. Having worked at a telephone company, it’s a good chance these numbers belong to the same company (only the last two digits are different). But, the company that called me was the Office of Progressive (??) saying my name was on some legal documents in his office. Tried calling back and the message kept looping.
In a vicious cycle, the higher the permitted fees, the more stores, the lesser customers each store serves, so the higher the fees need to be. Competition, in other words, does reduce profits to lenders, as expected – but it seems to carry no benefit to consumers, at least as measured by the rates they are charged. (The old loan sharks may have been able to charge lower rates because of lower overhead, although it’s impossible to know.) Mayer thinks the explanation may have more to do with the differences in the customer base: Because alternative alternatives were sparse back then, these lenders served a more diverse and overall more creditworthy set of borrowers, so default rates were likely lower.)
“If these people are taking me to my local court should they not have this info?” By law, they have no right to collect. This is a standard procedure when dealing with any debt collector and under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, the collector must comply with this request. In fact, under the law, if a collector contacts you by phone they have 5 days in which to send you formal written notice that you owe the debt. The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and your right to dispute the debt, in writing, within 30 days of receipt of the notice.
Jason – It absolutely sounds like the classic overseas payday loan scam. Do not send them a penny. Remember, in the US a debt collector is required to send notification of the debt to you in writing. If he does not, he’s breaking the law. Report these guys to the FTC and your state attorney general.
I called back the next day and talked with Savanna again, a conversation that lasted about a minute because she refused to answer my questions and hung up … again. I called back and asked to speak with a Supervisor, which she obliged (at least I think, they sounded a awful lot like). The Supervisor’s name was Bella Sims … it seemed like she was trying to be helpful, I told her the address they had had, and the account at the bank was closed for 2 years when this transaction was made. Mind you, no one ever asked me for updated information or my address … their gums just kept to flap about how I was going to be served a criminal
Does a researcher who’s out to make a splash with some sexy finding necessarily work with more bias than a researcher who’s working out of pure intellectual curiosity? I do not think that’s necessarily so. Like life itself, academic research is a case-by-case scenario.
Within 72 hours they would attach my salary. She did not say what the debt was connected to.
I too was a victim but never again. These fools still call me. Ronnie Cooper, David Cooper, John McCoy. Ph’s 987-928-2683, 909-503-0684,949-752-4600,958-489-0227 and 214-446-9831. Same old scam, I did not give that a red hundred !! FYI !! Please read this on MSN today. Do not let these people get to you !! Please be aware.
I have been receiving calls from what sounds like the same group of folks. Starting last week I had a message from “Justin Jones” stating that I had to contact him immediately or have my attorney contact him that I would be sorry. If he did not hear from me that I would face some serious legal actions. He also said that they would come to my workplace or home and I will be the only responsible person for further legal consequences and that I should call him bsck as soon as possible before it too late. Thank you and have a blessed day, goodbye. It was very broken Indian dialect. I returned the call and spoke to Derek Anderson. Apparently Justin Jones is one of his “officers.” I was told that They would be willing to settle for $ 998 in place of the $ 1795.00 they said I owed them through Advance Payday Loan. I have never taken a payday loan. I had to give him a debit card or send a payment via Western Union right away or they would have the sheriff come to me on the following three charges. 1 breach of federal banking laws 2 Collateral check fraud, and 3 Theft by deception. I asked for a physical address so that I could send the funds via overnight delivery or some other traceable method. He did not want to give me a physical address but after much questioning from me he gave me an address of 633 Marimbo Street New York, NY 10023 But that they would not accept mail payments, only Western Union (he forgot about the debit and credit card at this point)
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