Ask them to send you a notification of the debt. They are required to do that within three business days of calling you. If they are not, they are definitely not up and up. Also, debt collectors can not make false statements. Telling you that you will go to jail for check fraud will probably fall under that category. (You can not go to jail just because you can not pay a debt) and you’re right – not paying back a payday loan is not check fraud.)
Defaulting on a loan is not a “felony violation” and what they are saying and doing is illegal under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. The next time you talk with them, ask them to send you a confirmation of the debt-which they are required to do by law. If they refuse, you can tell them that they are breaking the law and you will pursue legal action if they continue to call and harass you.
There is no surefire way to stop them other than to use some kind of call screening service where only calls you approve go through. You can get some ideas from this piece I wrote: http:
Someone called me yesterday claiming I’m supposed to appear in court and they will be at my home tomorrow. They then called this morning saying they will be at my him between 4 and 5pm. And leafy an “800” number for me to call. The fact that it’s a 800 number already had my skeptical. So I guess I’ll be seeing these ppl at 5 today lol … They also keep calling from an unknown number so I can not block the call.
ok heres how this works i did it for about a few years ago first off all the debt is real debt. Ok now heres where the rest becomes illegal to speak or at least walk that thin line in my eyes. its real debt that the people owed but for these companies by the time they got it its OVER the 7 year statute of limitations for collections so they hit hard and fast before you catch on. now when you call john or mary lets say they have professional closers who guess what are now john or mary each one of us gets our list of people going to call and get my company buys by the bAZILLION from the credit card companies medical collection agencies etc for pennies the month i worked there they had a million $$$ month so theres a lot of uninformed people out there. anyways we get their debt info then credit report etc and we search them before we call had my own code to run backgrounds reverse phone etc that way we sound legit we then spoof your sheriff or court house number threaten jail and arrest at your work etc unless you call john or mary since we are all either john or mary they never know for pay for us we had a number like john 1 john 2 or mary 1 mary 2 etc. i can go on and on the gist lol my conscience got the best of me i had to quit p.s. if this happens again just laugh at them and ask them what time breakfast you need a vacation and club med was booked solid so jail will do lol theyll move to the next victim they just keep hounding and bullying if you look weak and they think youll pay. good luck
I have been receiving phone calls from (949) 829-2391. My son not knowing any better told them where I work and now they are calling my work telling our secretary that they are going to serve me papers at work if I do not call them back within 2 hours. I am a teacher and I can not have them calling me at school. I called the number that was given 10 minutes after he called the school and got a machine … Jordan and Associates … He told the secretary that he had a legal business matter about quantum support services. I had gotten calls last year and they just started again. I have told them I am reporting them to FTC and Better Business Bureau. What can I do to get them to stop calling
I can not tell from what you are writing whether it’s a very aggressive debt collector, but remember the debt collectors must follow federal law (and often state laws) that prohibits harassment and false statements.
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It’s frightening, to be sure, but scammers use that fear to get people to pay money they do not really owe. Before you pay anything, make sure you owe it, and that they own the debt. (They are required by law to send you a “validation of the debt” by postal mail.) Please do not agree to pay via a pre-card debit card. More about that here: The Way You Should Never Pay a Debt Collector.
There is no reason payday lending in its mainstream, visible form took off in the 1990s, but an important factor was deregulation. States began to roll back usury caps, and changes in federal laws helped lenders structure their loans so as to avoid the caps. By 2008, writes Jonathan Zinman, a economist at Dartmouth, payday-loan stores nationwide outnumbered McDonald’s restaurants and Starbucks coffee shops combined.
wow. That’s disgusting, especially towards your daughter. I’d have told them “odd, I’ve already talked to my county sheriff about this, so PLEASE some over here because he really wants to meet you too! Oh, all of this is recorded and will be given to my Sheriff this afternoon while we’re sitting around waiting
I received a call from a “courier service” in my county. The number was restricted. He said he had legal papers to deliver to me and unless I called 877-454-4291, they wold be delivered today between 2 & 4. I must be available at my home or place of employment. How will they know where to go? LOL !!! I called the number but did not talk to anyone. That phone was answered ADR Arbitration. Has anyone ever heard of them?
A few months back, my best friend got a call from someone re: I said I was going to jail if I did not pay something by the end of the day. I had used her as a reference to a payday advance through Check N Go so that’s probably how they got her name and number. She called me hysterical, I freaked out and of course, called them. The guy was very rude and told me I would go to jail if it was not paid that day by 4 and told me I’d be arrested for check fraud. I explained what happened, did not give any info or offer payment, but was so upset. I completely freaked out and thought “oh my gosh, who will take care of my kids if I go to jail?” I called my attorney and he told me to ignore it, and that no, I could not get arrested. I was relieved !!! I do not have to pay for that payday above, I believe it was from a year or two ago. I lost my job after, fell on hard times and I still pick up the pieces of money and have not been able to pay it. Now that I’ve read this, I’m pretty sure these callers are scammers. Beware people! Oh yes, and of course, when I listen to the envelope info of the voicemails, they are blocked and it says “an outside caller”. I wish there was something I could do to get these clowns in trouble, because if I had made any payment and found out it was not paying my debt, I would be devastated.
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In the end, if they can not answer your questions or validate the debt (in writing), it’s probably a scam. In which case you may not be able to do much about the call but you can report them to your local law enforcement, your state attorney general, and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. You may even want to inform the caller that you have taken these steps.
In a vicious cycle, the higher the permitted fees, the more stores, the lesser customers each store serves, so the higher the fees need to be. Competition, in other words, does reduce profits to lenders, as expected – but it seems to carry no benefit to consumers, at least as measured by the rates they are charged. (The old loan sharks may have been able to charge lower rates because of lower overhead, although it’s impossible to know.) Mayer thinks the explanation may have more to do with the differences in the customer base: Because alternative alternatives were sparse back then, these lenders served a more diverse and overall more creditworthy set of borrowers, so default rates were likely lower.)
These payday loan collectors are using a new scared tactic now. They are saying I’m filing fraud charges with your county and you will be summoned to court for fraud. I know you can not threaten a person over the phone but these are the calls I’ve got back to back
The one who called me was American legal services .. I have never been to jail in my life Thank God I called a lawyer first .. Should I know when they were avoiding my request for detailed info.
I too was a victim but never again. These fools still call me. Ronnie Cooper, David Cooper, John McCoy. Ph’s 987-928-2683, 909-503-0684,949-752-4600,958-489-0227 and 214-446-9831. Same old scam, I did not give that a red hundred !! FYI !! Please read this on MSN today. Do not let these people get to you !! Please be aware.
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sure now it was a scam.
I got a call from advanced capitol solutions for a defaulted loan i had in 2008 from another company. i googled their number 877-845-5988 and got allot of fraud comments and i cant verify they bought the debt from e corp. I send them an email to send me evidence that my attorney can try to verify. they said they can come after me for check fraud, which fake collectors always do to scare you out of some money. have not given them any acct info and now do you know what they know, anybody know of this company history?
DEYOUNG: Yes, I like to think of myself as an objective observer of social activity, as an economist. But there is one section of the blog where we highlight mixed evidence. That helps you to reduce the risk of money at home level. And we also point to, I believe, an equal number of studies in that section that find the exact opposite. And then of course there is another section in the blog where we point directly to rollovers and rollovers is where the rubber hits the road on this. If we can somehow predict which folks will not be able to handle this product and will roll it over incessantly, then we can impress on payday lenders not to make the loans to those people. This product, in fact, is especially badly suited to predict this because the payday lender gets a small number of pieces of information when she makes the loan, as opposed to the information that a regulated financial institution would collect. The cost of collecting that information, of underwriting the loan in the traditional way that a bank would be, would be too high for the payday to offer the product. If we load up additional costs on the production of these loans, the loans will not be profitable any longer.
You are correct that you are required to give you the proof of the debt. Do you have a physical address for them? If so, you can write a letter and send it registered mail asking for written proof of the debt. If you are being taken to court, you will receive a “summary and complaint” by postal mail or delivered in person. It is a formal court document, not an email.
I just wondering have anyone heard of KDE Recovery Services … They called me today about a payday loan and I hung up. The lady called me back and left a very rude message on my voicemail calling me ignorant and if I did not pay she was going to sign this affidavit and have a warrant issued to my job to be arrested. It sounds like a scam but I’m not sure they say it’s a loan I had back in 2007. They have my name, address, phone numbers and social security number. it starts to really freak me out
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My mom is going through this right now. These people are called Empire State Arbitration. They gave him the name of a bank-First Federal Bank of Delaware. They would not give her the phone number of the address. We asked for a file number or dovket number and she would not give me any information on the company I supposedly owe to. I called her and asked her to fax me all the papers she had on the file. She said she could not do that I said I have a right to see all the paperwork for a debt I owed. She was very rude and even hung up on me … I’ve talked to a few legitimate collector’s and even when I was rude they were still very polite..As it turns out my mom already gave them her info to take the payments out … I need help asap! There number is 18444828780
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