Have been receiving calls for about a month from John Ryan at the AR Group, leaving VM’s saying they are getting ready to file 2 legal documents against me, and to call back at 888-543-9421 ext 303 about the matter, also leaving a reference number. Today he calls and leaves the same message and says that they are filing the legal documents today and that I need to call back. Repeatedly when I try to call back the message that the “call source number is no longer in service”, including a number of times today. The call originally came from 800-533-9421 which is totally different contact when I call. Last year I mistakenly accepted a online payday loan that started a nightmare in my life for $ 200, and do not know if this is a connected issue. Earlier this year I was getting calls from a woman from TYCOLIFTS who gave documentation to about the transaction, and when pressured to pay, she said she would accept a 3 commitment commitment by providing her a valid card number that could be a prepaid card . I did so and the first payment was deducted, then I lost my job and could no longer make payments. She told me that she would not be able to keep the account from legal action, and did not hear
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Same phone number only was a Tina, wanted to pay me $ 690.00 to pay off pay day, asked for the original bill said they didn; t have it, gave me 1 week then garnishment called my lawyer yet to hear back.
Debt Collection Scammer
I had a company contact me today and they said I have a furniture store I did not have an account with the company but they will not send me any documentation from there company and said if I do not pay in an hour a warrant will be released and I will be arrested I’m going to school and do not want to mess up my life so I should pay them
Had the same call as Jeannie. I originally got a call from MS. Gilmore and now MS Berry from 877-258-1188 stating that my payment did not go through and that they would be proceeding on garnishment. I feel this is a scam. The call from MS Berry came on on Fri afternoon 4-1 at 4:45 AM. PDLR is the name of the company they claim. I did call the number back this morning and the person who answered the phone call me for my phone numbmer and then told me that MS Gilmore and MS Berry do not come in before noon. She told me I wouold have to call back then. Do not most legit collections of agencies that give you a number and name to call at least have voice mail. I feel this is a SCAM and I hope it stops soon. Any ideas I can do in the future to stop these people? Please advise if you do
The Illinois Attorney General’s Office says the bogus debt collectors have heard about using various names, including: Morgan & Associates, Federal Bureau of Investigators, DNR Recovery, DNI Recovery, Legal Accounts Association, Department of Law and Enforcement, CashNet USA , American Legal Services, Quick Cash, and ACS. If you hear from any of these companies, be sure to report them immediately to your state Attorney General’s office and the Federal Trade Commission
STANDAERT: These payday loans cost borrowers hundreds of dollars for what is marketed as a small loan. And the Center for Responsible Lending has estimated that payday loan costs over $ 3.4 billion per year from low-income consumers stuck in the payday-loan debt trap.
In November I went throught the same thing. A call on a cell phone form “Bill Paxton” A Mid-Eastern sounding man told me that a lawsuit had been filed in my nma and SS number over an on-line payday loan that I did not pay back. When I asked some probing questions like what the state and county tha law had been filed in what was the docket number. And when I asked for a written verification of the debt he became very upset and put me on the phone with his “supervisor” he informed me that an investigator would be sent to my home and place of work and that I would be arrested and could end up with 6 years in prison I told him to go fuck a PIG. He then said I was in a language I could not understand then hung up on me.
Shani – You should NOT pay a debt collector without first verifying the debt. Now that they know you will pay, they will probably intensify their efforts. I recommend you file complaints with your state attorney general office and the Federal Trade Comission. You may also have to call screening through your phone company if they will not stop calling you.
4 .. Just a person working for a company that used a VoiP phone number, no information about this company on the net. Said they were a mediator; but she had all the right info, name, old address, ss # old email address, and my bank account with router number and my wife’s name. and a sympathetic ear. (do not know if that is just a tatic to establish trust)
, unless you have to show up and prove it.
According to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, or the CFPB – the federal agency that President Obama wants to tighten payday-loan rules – 75 percent of the industry’s fees come from borrowers who take over 10 loans per year.
A cash advance is a service provided by the most credit card and charge card issuers. The service allows the cardholders to withdraw cash, either via an ATM or over the counter at a bank or other financial agency, up to a certain limit. For a credit card, this will be the credit limit (or some percentage of it).
They left me a voice message saying that I would be served some paperwork between 12 & 4pm monday. And if I was not at home they would come by my job. I called them at 3:30 Monday and they said there was a problem having to be ready tomorrow or take care of it today. I asked who was from they said B & G payday loan I took out in 2011 for $ 500.00. I told them I never heard of them and just served me the paperwork. He got an attitude saying I should pay and it’s more because it’s so late. He sounded like he was high on drugs and his phone was breaking up and his raspy voice I could barely
sure now it was a scam.
I did not give her my new address. I know the debt is not mine and sound bogus. As my bank representative pointed out it, if the debt was real I would have noticed either the money being withdrawn or would have seen a bunch overdrawn transactions. The Account was active until last week when I closed it. So he said the only way they do not get paid is if you withdraw all your money or you close the account the loan is linked to. So that’s what’s setting off some red flags that this may be scam.
There is no surefire way to stop them other than to use some kind of call screening service where only calls you approve go through. You can get some ideas from this piece I wrote: http:
I just got a call from a friend friend stating someone called me from an arbitration placeor something. She gave me the name and name of the person. Apparently they told my friend that I had to contact them before the end of business tomorrow or they are going to suspend my license and have money garnished from my checks. One big problem is a drive for a company so without my license I would not be working. This is threatening my job life and family. They were really rude. I did call the number and I left a message for them to call me back. I suspect this is a scam because I got married a little over a year ago. And they have my social security number and my name name and they called my friend. I suspect it is a scare tactic from a loan called security finance. But I did not hear from them since a month before I got married. I’m looking into this before I give them any info at all
I’ve been receiving calls from someone who is saying i owe money to a first american cash advance first of all i can not even get a payday loan in the military besides that they have been calling my real work place and it has been difficult the I do not know what that means but i say they work for the fbi and if i do not pay i can go to prison well i never even get anything in the mail about This is as well as not having a payday loan so i know it fake I just want them to stop calling and harassing me what should i do? They should like oversea people I can not even understand them and they are saying there’s going to be investigated so what can I do?
“I do not think they’ll be back, because I told them that it’s federal law to send me something written in the mail before trying to collect the debt from me” – Surprisingly, once they know that you know the laws (and better than they do), they typically do back and give up. Thank you for sharing your story, it shows that knowing and understanding your rights can help protect you from being a victim.
here in the states. Pretty much the same crap right now it’s from the homeland. Recently it has been from Obrien, Wexler and Associates 877-334-5288. They called my home and left a message, called my cell, called work and even called my brother that I’m not sure how they got his number. I wonder if they searched it because it has never been on a payday loan app.
this is happening to me they made me buy 2 green dot cards for $ 425 i keep calling them back and they are not answering the phone. I am only 21 years of age I do not know what to do or how to get my money back. Can someone help?
I’ve been receiving similar phone calls from 877-824-6758 and 866-981-6854, from a guy named “Bill Davis” and a woman named “Amy Rogers” who claims to Bill’s “partner” .. they first called my work and left a message with my supervisor, claiming that they have two charges against me and that if I do not contact them they are going to serve me at work. Then the call to my cell and the threatening messages followed. I finally blocked them on my cell. So, “Amy” called my brother’s phone and left a message for him, saying that I had charges against me and I was being taken to court. This really ****** me off !! What can be done to stop these people? Can I report them to the police? !!! I’m getting fed up !!!
I worked. I got all the information from the lady (who at the point was very nice and helpful). I then contacted my bank and requested bank statements for August and had no deposit from any other than my employer in my account. My bank told me it was a scam and not to worry about it. A couple of days later they called back for the money to avoid legal action. I told them I had bank statements
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wow. That’s disgusting, especially towards your daughter. I’d have told them “odd, I’ve already talked to my county sheriff about this, so PLEASE some over here because he really wants to meet you too! Oh, all of this is recorded and will be given to my Sheriff this afternoon while we’re sitting around waiting
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DEYOUNG: I had written that paper, and had I know 100 percent of the facts about where the data came from and who paid for it – yes, I would have disclosed that. I do not think it’s one way or the other in terms of what the research found and what the paper says.
DUBNER: OK, so this is interesting that a watchdog group that will not reveal its funding is going after an industry to try to influence academics that’s funding. So should we assume that CFA, the watchdog, has some kind of horse in the payday race? Do we just not know?
I got this call at my job telling me to pay this payday loan. I took out. I never did. I consulted with my attorney and he said to her a scam because they have to send you something in mail. I never got anything. No court sum or anything. Beaver here is the phone number: (213) 260-9435
I’ve never heard of Money More or Money, but received a letter (very unprofessional actually signed in ink) by some small time debt collector claiming I pay or settlement (Payback & Associates, Henderson. places appear to be in NV).
I know you’re panicked about this, but do not be. Social Security payments are generally safe from creditors. (If you have a federally guaranteed loan your Social Security funds may be at risk but even then you will be notified in the phone and not from the phone call out of the blue.)
Have a message today from “Courtney” claiming to be a self-employed server and that I am scheduled to be published on the 21st. She said she normally does not call forward but because of the situation she was this time. She said if I was uncomfortable receiving papers for which I did not know about that to contact the originating company. Then she left their number 855-461-0744 and a “case number”. The first thing I did is try to lookup the phone number but no reference to it anywhere on the interwebs? Okay, start to sound fishy. So I call the number, but of course it’s after 7pm Eastern (4: 30p for me) so I get a chance to leave a voicemail. The voicemail greeting was for Jonathan Vadeer?
Do not give them access to your checking account, they will clean you out. Instead send in a check or MO by CMRRR. No offer letter, no check and get off the phone. They want money from you they will send it. And do not be intimidated by that favorite phrase of theirs that they will record “refusal to pay” against you. Big deal, bite my ankle. It means squat and has no legal standing at all.
Today I came in from a stressful day, phone rings and it’s some stupid chick telling me I was going to be served and did not call this number at ADR – 877-801-8348. I asked her what was she talking about. She said, “I can not tell you the records are sealed!” She said, “If you call this number that will prevent you from a lot of trouble!” I said “No thanks, I would rather know what the trouble is , serve me! “I live in a remote part of the country – PO Box only – I also knew I had not been responsible for anything illegal. Have been a grown up now for several years and knew -my life was clean! I told her if she called me back that I was going to turn her into the AG’s Office and hung up. A few minutes later my mom called some girl was looking for me and I needed to call that number. My mom is 83 and we just went through the lost, my dad and my brother-in-law. None of us need this at anytime in our lives. I WILL turn them into the authorities if they call me back. I hope everybody else will do the same. I told my mom not to even think about talking to them or anyone else who can not identify themselves or their company. It’s a shame such evil lives in our world … find a job, do something honest for a change. We have enough crap going on without these scumsuckers bothering us or moreso our parents! BTY the girls name was CORY.
That’s the real question Kristen. How do we stop them? If they are calling from overseas and flouting our laws, what can we do? I recommend that you file a complaint with your state attorney general, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (consumerfinance.gov) and the Better Business Bureau with as many details as possible, in case there is an investigation into this company. In the meantime, you may want to find out if your phone company offers a call screening service. It will cost a few bucks a month but may be useful.
Sadly, these types of scammers are good at what they do and very convincing. They prey on consumers that are not aware of the rules and use scare tactics to convince them otherwise. You hit the nail on the head with this:
One problem with the payday-lending industry-for regulators, for lenders, for the public interest is that it defies simple economic intuition. For instance, in most industries, more competition means lower prices for consumers. That maxim certainly helped guide the deregulation of the fringe lending business in the 1990s and some advocates still believe that further deregulation is the key to making payday loans affordable. Yet there is little evidence that a proliferation of payday lenders produces this consumer-friendly competitive effect. What’s the difference: There are more than double-paid loans in those states (Idaho, South Dakota, Texas, and Wisconsin). by residents of some other states, according to Pew. In the state where the interest rate is capped, the rate that payday lenders charge gravitates right to the cap. “In the race to the lowest rates, it’s a race to the highest rates,” says Tom Feltner, director of financial services at the Consumer Federation of America.
My husband and I filed bankruptcy due to unforeseen circumstances and we had an outstanding payday loan. My attorney explained to us that a payday loan is treated as an unsecured debt and would file the papers and there was no need to worry about this because it would be included in the bankruptcy as unsecured. Needless to say I got a very dangerous call from a company called US Capital Management (855) 596-0411. They said they represented MYMONEYCHEST.com and they would see us in court for a balance. I asked the woman to contact my attorney and they said they could not because they are just the middle man in this. I told her if there is a balance and we are currently in a bankruptcy, there should be no reason they could not reach out to our attorney. I called my attorney and he said to have them call him. They will not! They told me that they were going to serve me papers at my job. Is this possible? Can they do that? I can not get them to give me any paperwork about this balance owed.
Tell me that I owe a paydate loan and that I need to call her and make arrangements. She is calling me on my job and on a new cell number that I have. Now she is calling my family and threatening them That they are going to arrest me. Please help. 800-290-1065. SHe calls three times a day or more. Help.
It may seem inconceivable that a company could not make money collecting interest at a 36 percent annual clip. One reason it’s true is that default rates are high. A study in 2007 by two economists, Mark Flannery and Katherine Samolyk, found that defaults account for more than 20 percent of operating expenses at payday-loan stores. By comparison, loan losses in 2007 at small U.S. commercial banks accounted for only 3 percent of expenses, according to the Kansas City Fed. This is not surprising, given that payday lenders do not look carefully at the borrower’s income, expenses, or credit history to ensure that she can repay the loan: That underwriting process, the bedrock of conventional lending, would be ruinously expensive when applied to a $ 300, two-week loan. Instead, lending to the borrower’s checking account-but if that’s empty due to other withdrawals or overdrafts, it’s empty.
The explanation for this is not simple, and a variety of economic jargon floats around the issue. But it’s all started with this: The typical payday-consumer loan is too desperate, too unsophisticated, or too exhausted from being treated with disrespect by traditional lenders to engage in shopping. So demand is what economists call price tax. As Clarence Hodson, who published a book in 1919 about the business of small loans, put it, “It is not possible for bargain to benefit with cupidity.” In its last financial year, Advance America, one of the country’s largest payday lenders, wrote, “We believe that the main competitive factor is customer service, rental, convenience, speed, and confidentiality.” You will notice it did not mention the price.
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Nona – There are a few options for trying to stop them but it’s not easy when you’re dealing with a scam. If they were legitimate collectors, and traceable – where they could be held accountable under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, consumers would recourse to sue them. However, with scams, it’s a little more difficult … but there are some options that may help – you can file a complaint with your local law enforcement, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and your state attorney general.
The call was about a cash advance loan that I received over the computer in 2007. They said I owe $ 1500 and I had to give them at least $ 25 before I got off the phone with them or I would be arrested and have to spend $ 5000 to get out of jail, have to pay short money and get put on probation.
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