Just received a call from 1-888-553-2372 She said she was with ADR firm and said they would have to contact a friend of mine who used to be her contact for a payday loan so they could get her address to serve her with papers for fraudulent checks.
Tiffany – Phone numbers can be easily faked. And “a little convincing” is not good enough. What you need to know is whether they are a legitimate collection agency and you actually owe the debt. The first step is always to ask them to MAIL you information about the debt. That’s required by law. If they do not, then refuse to talk with them until they do. Do not accept email or anything less.
Worse yet, she says, borrowers have almost no choice but to roll over their loans again and again, which jacks up the fees. In fact, rollovers, Standaert says, are an important part of the industry’s business model.
I too have been getting these calls as of late. I took out a payday loan from Money and More back in 2008 and did it online for $ 300. I have since paid the loan back, but am now getting these calls as well. They are coming from multiple numbers in different states. The numbers I have are 631-247-9920, as well as the 716-299-0417 numbers and 757-275-8578. They are obviously using some system to be able to call from other numbers. I usually do not answer and call the numbers back to find out who they are and I go straight through a switchboard to an operator who refuses to tell me who they are or what they are calling from. They claim that there are “lots of companies in the building” and that they do not work for any particular one. Anyway
My husband got a call from BG capital they said they were in New York but who really knows. The gentleman sd he was an investigator w
She said, “I’ve got $ 455, that if I made a payment or paid that today, that would be closed and I would not go to court. But if I did go to court, I would be looking after costs
And this does not make sense: “They had a warrant for my arrest and ready to be sent to the sheriffs department in my county.” If they did not have a warrant for your arrest, why would they tell you that other than to try to shake you down for money? It would be smart for you to call your local sheriff’s department, explain what happened and ask them if you can file a police report.
I did not give her my new address. I know the debt is not mine and sound bogus. As my bank representative pointed out it, if the debt was real I would have noticed either the money being withdrawn or would have seen a bunch overdrawn transactions. The Account was active until last week when I closed it. So he said the only way they do not get paid is if you withdraw all your money or you close the account the loan is linked to. So that’s what’s setting off some red flags that this may be scam.
So I did call them back, spoke to a different person, to inform them that this is bogus and there is no record of any kind for any payday loan. I started to tell her what the bank associate told me about how payday loans work and if I or someone else did not take these loans there would be a try to collect on in through my bank account. She said she knows how they work and do not need me to explain it to her. She also told me that since they are only a mediation firm that is just looking for volunteer settlements of the debts they are not bound to the Fair Debt and Collections Act and said we are not going to force you to pay this back to our client.
I’ve been receiving calls from someone who is saying i owe money to a first american cash advance first of all i can not even get a payday loan in the military besides that they have been calling my real work place and it has been difficult the I do not know what that means but i say they work for the fbi and if i do not pay i can go to prison well i never even get anything in the mail about This is as well as not having a payday loan so i know it fake I just want them to stop calling and harassing me what should i do? They should like oversea people I can not even understand them and they are saying there’s going to be investigated so what can I do?
Perhaps a solution of sorts-something that is better, but not perfect-could come from more modest reforms to the payday-lending industry, rather than trying to transform it. There are some evidence that smart regulation can improve the business for both lenders and consumers. In 2010, Colorado revised its payday-lending industry by reducing the permissible fees, extending the minimum term of a loan to six months, and requiring that a loan be repayable over time, instead of coming due all at once. Pew reports that half of the payday stores in Colorado are closed, but now everyday payday borrowers are paying 42% less in fees and defaulting less frequently, with no reduction in access to credit. “There’s been a debate for 20 years about whether to allow payday lending or not,” says Pew’s Alex Horowitz. “Colorado shows it can be much, better.”
This is a common tactic that is used to scare you into pay without questioning the validity of the debt. There are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
scammers start telling you you’re going to be arrested and they’re going to garnish your salary THAT’S BULLS # $ T. That requires a court order and by law you are notified of the court date in writing so you have a chance to show up. No matter how much they threaten you NEVER give them your personal information, bank account numbers, social security anything. They’re on a fishing trip and the more info you give them, the easier it is to clean you out.Notify your family, friends and especially your boss that you are being scamed.Then if the scammers call them they will not be caught off guard.Let a stop to these theives, all debt collection is regulated by Federal Law. Get informed. Know what the Statute of Limitations is in your state. Do not answer the phone and give these scammers an invitation to make your life miserable.
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Sadly, these types of scammers are good at what they do and very convincing. They prey on consumers that are not aware of the rules and use scare tactics to convince them otherwise. You hit the nail on the head with this:
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This person called my job and blocked their number. He left me a message saying his name is Michael Hunter and that he is the senior locator for the processing and summons division for the state of Florida. He said I needed to contact my case worker, Mr. Moss immediately about 2 fraud charges against me for writing bad checks and that need to serve me with a warrant. I did not call them back and did google search on this and saw it’s some kind of a scam. They have also called my job, but we have a call center who would not put the call through. He said I needed to call 1-888-978-4319 extension 147 and that my case number is 431-923
Some guy named [redacted] keeps emailing me that i need to pay $ 1200 by friday or i will go to jail. The money for a debit collector but he will not tell which company it is. And he wants the money by friday but he only emails me. He will call me the company that pay day loans from
They are scammers calling from India with spoofed numbers to appear as though they are within US. Since they are out to get you, well you get them instead. Next time they call just loud air horn in the phone. They never dare call back. They are usually looking for someone to victimize easily and they get it that is not you.
You are doing all the right things, and it sounds like the calls you are receiving are not legitimate. Please do not give these companies any account numbers (credit card, debit or any other financial account). We’ve written about these scams before. This post may be useful (or reassuring) to you:
I received a call yesterday from a law office stating that they were going to have me arrested for fraud and theft for not paying a payday loan. They said that it had been over 21 days since I made a payment and that if I wanted to go out of court that all I needed to do was put $ 385 on a green dot moneypak card by today. I have taken out two payday loans just recently and just had my first payment due on Friday which I paid. The number that they are calling from is 401-648-7325 by Lisa Green. She also said that the money had been deposited in my account and when they tried to pay out they were not able to. They also did not give me information on when the deposit took place and what company the payday loan was through. This sounds like a lot of the other posts that I have read but I do not want to take the chance of being arrested … what do I do ??
Funny thing is, they have a website but anyone can get a website these days. They are also listed in the BBB website with a C- rating. C- because of complaints. Their website domain is via GoDaddy. Now thats classy.
Saying you’re going to be arrested for fraud because you have not paid your payday loan is a bogus threat. The fact that they have all this information about you does not mean it is a legitimate collection attempt. And the fact that you want to pay with a moneypack is a big red flag. I would suggest you turn the tables on them and report them to the Federal Trade Commission and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (consumerfinance.gov). Next time they call start the conversation by telling them you are going to record the call to deliver to law enforcement – and do so!
I received a call from Jonathan Andrews of Adams, Peterson and Irving stating I have a file placed with them that needs immediate attention. The caller said they would send the file to my county for prosecution. 844-580-7842 was the number on my caller ID … who has this experience? What was the result.
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It’s been gettng calls from a guy who calls hisself jack but is clear from overseas because I can barely understand anything he says. he has gone so far as to call my job ann tell my boss that the company i work for is goin to be held liable for this debt oh yea this guy is supposedly with a law firm. my boss told them last week if they called back i would be terminaed they would not get any money from me .this did not phase him so tuesday he called back they told him the samething so he called my cell phone wantedin me to verify my I did not have a lot of cursed him out with a few racial friends hang up.so then I got a call from another guy clearly not american tellin he was the sheriff of my county they were coming to my work I have been told to serve on my request I gave him one 4 states away so he says do not u speak to? lmbo i said who said the sherriff of my county i just had to ask what county that would be and i was givin some word ive never heard. so after a day of theatrical injury to the loss of my job and 3 felony charges for supposedly getting money from payday usa i am waiting for my sheriff to return my call so i can tell him of this thing impersonate an officer. i work hard for my money and noone is going to harass me like this i’m not stupid so my advice to the scammers scam you own country come here tryin to steal from us hard workin honest folks. and did i mention this trash called my moms and told my 12yr old girl to suck her d ** k !!!! these ppl need to be stopped b4 they meet the end of my shotgun !!
Yes .. I’m getting the same calls as you and from the same guy .. Timothy and yes, he said he’s calling from ADR .. and today I got a call from Tom Hayden who did not identify the company he was he .. he said he received a fax in his office and I had one chance to clear it up by calling 877 548-4064 .. he said I have charges pending against me and would be served. He did not leave a number he could be reached at only ADR’s number. When I called the lady said that I had a loan PD and that I had to pay it right then over the phone by credit card or debit card or give them a member of the credit card etc .. otherwise I was going to be served and would have to go to court and possibly be jailed for check fraud. She then put her “boss” on the phone who named her Gregory Scott and said she would do me a favor and reduce the amount owed by 200.00 which is what she was going to pay the server to come and serve me papers but Only if I can secure him with a debit card or credit card. I asked him where he thought I could get one and he said ACE cash express .. I told him I did not have a credit card nor did I have a pre-paid debit card .. I asked him for the information in writing so I could verify that they were legit and he hung up on me. Seriously, maybe we should do something about this ADR company .. they called my cousin and I never used my cousin as ANYTHING reference and they threatened him (this time when he just lost his sister to cancer) and they told him he needed to secure my debt.
… and remember … do not sign anything at your doorstep …
, unless you have to show up and prove it.
DUBNER: Obviously the history of lending is long and often, at least in my reading, tied to religion. There is a prohibition against it in Deuteronomy and elsewhere in the Old Testament. It’s in the New Testament. In Shakespeare, the Merchant of Venice was not the hero. So, do you think that the general view of this kind of lending is colored by an emotional or moral argument too much at the expense of an economic and practical argument?
Mark – The next time they call them to provide written documentation to validate the debt (to prove the debt even exists). This is a standard procedure when dealing with any debt collector and by law, the collector must comply with this request. In fact, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, if a collector contacts you by phone they have 5 days in which to send you formal written notice that you owe the debt. The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and your right to dispute the debt, in writing, within 30 days of receipt of the notice.
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Have been receiving calls for about a month from John Ryan at the AR Group, leaving VM’s saying they are getting ready to file 2 legal documents against me, and to call back at 888-543-9421 ext 303 about the matter, also leaving a reference number. Today he calls and leaves the same message and says that they are filing the legal documents today and that I need to call back. Repeatedly when I try to call back the message that the “call source number is no longer in service”, including a number of times today. The call originally came from 800-533-9421 which is totally different contact when I call. Last year I mistakenly accepted a online payday loan that started a nightmare in my life for $ 200, and do not know if this is a connected issue. Earlier this year I was getting calls from a woman from TYCOLIFTS who gave documentation to about the transaction, and when pressured to pay, she said she would accept a 3 commitment commitment by providing her a valid card number that could be a prepaid card . I did so and the first payment was deducted, then I lost my job and could no longer make payments. She told me that she would not be able to keep the account from legal action, and did not hear
lending at 25 percent a year, there are no stores at all.
In May 2008, I took out a payday
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One problem with the payday-lending industry-for regulators, for lenders, for the public interest is that it defies simple economic intuition. For instance, in most industries, more competition means lower prices for consumers. That maxim certainly helped guide the deregulation of the fringe lending business in the 1990s and some advocates still believe that further deregulation is the key to making payday loans affordable. Yet there is little evidence that a proliferation of payday lenders produces this consumer-friendly competitive effect. What’s the difference: There are more than double-paid loans in those states (Idaho, South Dakota, Texas, and Wisconsin). by residents of some other states, according to Pew. In the state where the interest rate is capped, the rate that payday lenders charge gravitates right to the cap. “In the race to the lowest rates, it’s a race to the highest rates,” says Tom Feltner, director of financial services at the Consumer Federation of America.
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Thanks for taking us step-by-step with how you checked out the person calling you. The steps you took, and the reports you made are smart – was not being scared or panicked in paying someone you did not have. Thanks for sharing.
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