If it was legit she would have no problem giving the address to the company. She will not divulge this information as she does not want to be sued for illegal collection tactics. Ignore them and move on.
In either case, take notes of the conversation. In the event they sue you (which would be very rare if either of the scenarios I described are correct) you could show up and explain to the judge how they did not comply with the FDCPA. You could rent an attorney to sue them. If you win you would be entitled to damages and they would have to pay your attorney fees.
DUBNER: Hey Christopher. So, as I understand it, much of what you’ve learned about CCRF’s involvement in the payday research comes from a watchdog group called the Campaign for Accountability, or CFA? So, first off, tell us a bit more about them, and what their incentives may be.
Thank you, I’m not sure the investigator called the house number and when I called the agency that is statewide mediation they said I should not see why a sheriff would come to my house over a debt owed
The Twisted Economics of Payday lending can not be separated from its natural predatory. The industry has always insisted that its products are intended for short-term emergency use and that it does not encourage repeat borrowing-the debt trap. “It’s like the tobacco industry saying that smoking does not cause cancer,” says Sheila Bair, former president of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. Study after study has found that repeating borrowing accounts for a large share of the industry’s revenues. Flannery and Samolyk found that “high per-customer loan volume” helps payday lenders cover their overhead and offset defaults. At a financial-service event in 2007, Daniel Feehan, then CEO of the payday lender Cash America, said, according to multiple reports (here and here), “The theory in the business is that you have got that customer , work to turn it into a repetitive customer, long-term customer, because that’s where the profitability is. ”
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people had the same story about these people. So I called them back and I asked them to give me the address of their business location and he gave me 1001 State stree, more than 1400, Erie Pa. I googled this address and found out that this address belongs to Moody Law Offices 814-464-9464. I called Moody Law Office and asked them they were affiliated with Law firm Anthony H Rodriguez and they said they did not hear of them and they were not affiliated with them. I called Anthony H Rodriguez back and confronted them about this, and he started cursing and they hung up on me. I’m so happy I did not give them any money.
They are scammers calling from India with spoofed numbers to appear as though they are within US. Since they are out to get you, well you get them instead. Next time they call just loud air horn in the phone. They never dare call back. They are usually looking for someone to victimize easily and they get it that is not you.
One problem with the payday-lending industry-for regulators, for lenders, for the public interest is that it defies simple economic intuition. For instance, in most industries, more competition means lower prices for consumers. That maxim certainly helped guide the deregulation of the fringe lending business in the 1990s and some advocates still believe that further deregulation is the key to making payday loans affordable. Yet there is little evidence that a proliferation of payday lenders produces this consumer-friendly competitive effect. What’s the difference: There are more than double-paid loans in those states (Idaho, South Dakota, Texas, and Wisconsin). by residents of some other states, according to Pew. In the state where the interest rate is capped, the rate that payday lenders charge gravitates right to the cap. “In the race to the lowest rates, it’s a race to the highest rates,” says Tom Feltner, director of financial services at the Consumer Federation of America.
This same Michael Moore had contacted me about 6 months ago, from a different #, with the same story of serving papers for my arrest about 6 months ago but that I owed money to PDL Loan for November 2008 … which I’m sure I do not owe, and I should send a payment immedately to settle claim.
It can be frustrating and embarrassing when debt collectors call relatives, and, as you suspect, some debt collectors use tactics that are not legal. But, as a consumer, you are not powerless. Here are three Credit.com articles you may find useful, and thanks for alerting others to the kind of treatment you have received.
There’s one more thing I want to add to today’s discussion. The payday-loan industry is, in a lot of ways, a simple target. But the more I think about it, the more it looks like a symptom of a bigger problem, which is this: remember, to get a payday loan, you need to have a job and a bank account. So what does it say about an economy in which millions of working people make so little money that they can not pay their bills, that they can not absorb one hit like a ticket for smoking in public?
Stacy – do not pay anything unless you’re sure it’s a legitimate debt. Under the FDCPA, collectors are legally obliged to provide proof of the debt. Having said this, within 5 days of contacting you by phone, they must send you a notification of their attempt to collect. In that notice, they have to inform you of your right to have the validated debt. You have thirty days to do this and it must be done in writing. If they can not validate the debt, you can not legally collect. With that said, we strongly encourage you to read through the following two resources, at least make sure you know your rights and take the appropriate steps forward:
someone named nicole woods – who’s leaving a number of – 888-891-4526 but you’re cant to her. she is very rude. and calls my job and tell anyone who answers the phonet that I’m going to be arrested and she is going to serve some papers on me. I asked the mail to the documents. claim they cant
I just had my first run with one of these “companies.” I immediately knew that it was gibberish but decided to play along. They were immediately taken by the fact I have a British accent but continue their charade. I initially spoke with a woman and the number was 0000. Typically I do not pick up these strange numbers as I assume it’s some sort of scam but I had a itch. She picked up said something and immediately handed the phone over to another counterpart. He of course made claims to a loan I took out in 2008, I believe. Along with fraud check and two other false claims. I immediately said that I was only 16 than though he continued the pressure. Statements of we sent you multiple EMAILS, you’ll receive a summon, etc. After he continued to talk about me I said in a very naive way “He said in his absurdly thick accent” of course. “I than yelled” you such a person I I was a student of law and the likeliness of convincing me of any truth was impossible. “He continued to press me and I slyly said a remark in Spanish than hung up. The fact that I was 16 in said year and British alone should have made him end the call, very foolish tactic. They called me BACK RIGHT AFTER AS WELL. I can also complain of the heavy background noise, completely spineless people praying on Americans suffering through enough of a crisis as is. If I receive another call I will take some of these actions to try and help in ceasing this callous behavior.
But there is one statistical tidbit that flies in the face of this conventional wisdom: A clear majority of same-sex couples who are living together are now married. Same-sex marriage was illegal in every state until Massachusetts legalized it in 2004, and it did not become legal nationwide until the Supreme Court decision Obergefell v. Hodges in 2015. Two years after that decision, 61 percent of the same-sex couples who were sharing a home were married, according to a set of surveys by Gallup. That’s a high take-up rate: Just because same-sex couples are able to get married does not mean they have to; and yet large numbers have seized the opportunity. (That’s compared with 89 percent of different sex couples.)
I took a loan from Money and More in July 2008 and paid the loan back in Aug of 2008 with an electronic with drawl; by Money and More. I had the bank send me my bank records showing both of these trans shares however I was told that unless I had a letter from Money and More that this had been paid my bank records are useless. I have had many payday loans over the years and have never received a full payment from any of them but have always been able to contact them online to check my history can not do this with money and more and the only phone number I can find is not inserving 951-922-6286 who is the scammer ?????. The calls do not come every day they are about 1 or 2 weeks apart. guess I’ll just have to wait and see if they are doing papers on me they know a lot of my personal information as told them I would not send them my bank statements she then recited my bank account number from the account I had at that time has since changed accounts. I have asked for things in writing and have to recieve anything.
I’ve been getting this guy “Mike Laursen from statewide mediation” saying I’m on payday loan back in 2013 I have not got a payday loan I’ve looked but did not do this guy was calling me from 2 different numbers (855 -201-4847 and 877-343-4510) then when I told him it was fraud he was calling with an unknown number he got $ 45 from me but i talked with my local police about this he said it waS
Hello I just recently about a week ago I started receiving a call from a collection agency TRADEMARK MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS in relation to a payday loan that I have to pay on and YES I know that i have a bill but there are tats are freakin nuts … is what was on my answer service … This message is for XX. My name is Theresa Coleman. I’m calling about fax order that I received in my office today in relation to some bad checks you’ve written. You have a chance to contact the complainant and resolve this matter before further action is taken. The complainant may be reached at their corporate office number 877-285-3841and you can refer to your case number ###. XX you have officially been notified. ”
Jessica – It sure sounds like a scam to me. Unfortunately you’re not going to get the money you paid back but hopefully you can stop further withdrawals. To be safe, talk with your bank, explain what happened and find out if you need to take other steps to protect yourself. Now that you’ve paid something they will probably be relentless in their efforts to get more money from you. I recommend you also read my article, 7 Ways to Stop Overseas Debt Collection Scam Calls.
The Illinois Attorney General’s Office says the bogus debt collectors have heard about using various names, including: Morgan & Associates, Federal Bureau of Investigators, DNR Recovery, DNI Recovery, Legal Accounts Association, Department of Law and Enforcement, CashNet USA , American Legal Services, Quick Cash, and ACS. If you hear from any of these companies, be sure to report them immediately to your state Attorney General’s office and the Federal Trade Commission
I got a call from a guy claiming he was the guy that was sent to serve me for check fraud for a check I wrote a check on December 25, 2007. Honestly who would write a payday one loan on Christmas day. This made me suspect that something is funny. He called me from an unknown number. The guy gave me a 1-877-540 number and a case number which was only a few numbers. I called the number the guy acted like him
This is exactly the approach by which Donald Trump inadvertently made millions for Michael Wolff. Having so spectacularly backfired the first time, why do it again? The short answer is: Team Trump knows nothing else.
I just had this happen and
Edit: I’ve seen that the original debt is “real debt,” and while the original debt may be real, even if you’ve paid in full and can prove it, it gets resold over and over. Check out John Oliver’s story. His show is investigated and these are small-time debt collectors depending on fooling people in paying to avoid legal action that rarely, if ever, happens. He bought $ 14 million in medical debt for $ 60k and erased it for thousands of people being harassed for debts that had been paid.
DUBNER: Let’s say you have a one-on-one audience with President Obama. We know that the President understands economics pretty well or, I would argue that at least. What’s your pitch to the President for how this industry should be treated and not eliminated?
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There is no reason payday lending in its mainstream, visible form took off in the 1990s, but an important factor was deregulation. States began to roll back usury caps, and changes in federal laws helped lenders structure their loans so as to avoid the caps. By 2008, writes Jonathan Zinman, a economist at Dartmouth, payday-loan stores nationwide outnumbered McDonald’s restaurants and Starbucks coffee shops combined.
My mom is going through this right now. These people are called Empire State Arbitration. They gave him the name of a bank-First Federal Bank of Delaware. They would not give her the phone number of the address. We asked for a file number or dovket number and she would not give me any information on the company I supposedly owe to. I called her and asked her to fax me all the papers she had on the file. She said she could not do that I said I have a right to see all the paperwork for a debt I owed. She was very rude and even hung up on me … I’ve talked to a few legitimate collector’s and even when I was rude they were still very polite..As it turns out my mom already gave them her info to take the payments out … I need help asap! There number is 18444828780
There is a long and often twisted history of industries co-opting scientists and other academic researchers to produce findings that make their industries look safe or more reliable or otherwise better than they really are. Whenever we talk about academic research on this show – which is pretty much every week – we try to show the provenance of that research and establish how legitimate it is. The best first step in figuring that out is to ask what kind of incentives are at play. But that is only one step.
Just received a call from PDLR Recovery systems about a payday loan that was supposedly taken out 2 or 3 years ago and they were willing to settle for $ 500.00. I had originally made an arrangement with them. I then called them to cancel the arrangement at which time they said they were going to call my office and start the garnishment proceedings. After reading your cover page and asking for the actual credit information as well as information to the collection they worked for, they suddenly hang up. Thank you for the advice.
Does anyone have an address for these companies? I have been contacted by The Law Offices of Jeffrey Abate, Cashnet, and today the Department of Legal Services. When I asked for an address to validate the debt I was hung up on. I’ve been harassed for months now with calls to work, home and my cell phone. When I asked to not call my work I was told too bad. Which yes I know is against the law. I have filed reports with the FTC and the AG in Washington State with no luck because I do not have an address! HELP!
I could not believe how fast everything was processed! I could not believe that I had gotten approved as most lenders do not approve me for some unknown reason. I was so happy and thankful that it came through quickly. Now I’m able to pay for my bond! Thank you!
here in the states. Pretty much the same crap right now it’s from the homeland. Recently it has been from Obrien, Wexler and Associates 877-334-5288. They called my home and left a message, called my cell, called work and even called my brother that I’m not sure how they got his number. I wonder if they searched it because it has never been on a payday loan app.
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Back when he was a private businessman, Trump learned how to use law as a weapon. The lesson he took from that is that if your pockets are deep enough – and your conscience dull enough – it does not matter that you are wrong. The other party will be broken before you will lose.
I got a call from this woman today, from a lady who said she was from a carrier service. She was calling me to tell me that she would be delivering a letter for me to appear in court on Friday. I asked her for her contact number and what carrier service she worked for. She told me that it was not important, that she served documents all over the county. She would not tell me the county in which she worked in either. She then went on to call me to find out more.1855-282-2535. I then called this number and they told me they represented two friends who claimed that I took out 2 payday loans last year. I never took any payday loans. Ironically, these loans were supposed to have been deposited in an account that had been closed 2 months before the date they said I took them. I asked for the contact numbers for the compines and was told they did not have a number for them, I would have to Google them and get the contact number that way. How can someone be representing someone in legal matters and have no contact number for them? Anyway, I asked for documentation that I owed this money and proof that I really took out these loans and was told they did not have it, I would have to contact the loan companies to get that info. If these people are taking me to my local court they should not have this info?
I received a call from a “courier service” in my county. The number was restricted. He said he had legal papers to deliver to me and unless I called 877-454-4291, they wold be delivered today between 2 & 4. I must be available at my home or place of employment. How will they know where to go? LOL !!! I called the number but did not talk to anyone. That phone was answered ADR Arbitration. Has anyone ever heard of them?
In the end, if they can not answer your questions or validate the debt (in writing), it’s probably a scam. In which case you may not be able to do much about the call but you can report them to your local law enforcement, your state attorney general, and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. You may even want to inform the caller that you have taken these steps.
Not having the money to pay a debt is not a crime. It sounds like you’re dealing with scammers. The advice I gave in the articles below to your situation. Start with step # 1 and insist they email your written statement of the debt that is required by federal law. (Do not be intimidated by the fact that they have a lot of information about you – that’s very common with payday loans.)
of a group called the Consumer Credit Research Foundation, or the CCRF, which is funded by payday lenders. Now, to be clear, Ronald Mann says that CCRF did not pay him to do the study, and did not try to influence his findings; but neither does his paper disclose that the data collection was handled by an industry-funded group. So we went back to Bob DeYoung and asked whether, maybe, it should have.
Ann, I just got a call last week from the same phone number. A “Juan Hernandez” has called me saying I owed on a payday loan; that it was taken out in 2008 and when the company tried to collect in 2009, there were insufficient funds. They are threatening to suspend my driver’s license unless I pay them $ 300 within 48 hours – after that, it becomes $ 1400. I was so upset, I went to the bank and got all my bank statements from December 2008 to present. Nothing returned for insufficient funds. Mr. Hernandez just called me at work today and I’m about to call him back. What a scam – happy you did not fall for it!
If a legitimate collector contacted you for a legitimate debt, you could ask them stop
We had a call from Marshall & Fields law office in California, they said, demanding attorney info on an old loan back to 2009 from paydayone, well that has been paid for, then they wanted info, then they called my brother as he was listed I’m sorry, they gave me a number to call back to 740-364-0537 ,, they guy couldnt speak any english but ask the info he asked well i hang up and wait for the next call ,, I hope he understands english as he is going to get an earfull
I fell for this, but I paid them because I had taken pdl out and I could not remember if I paid them. just last week they called again asking for money. When I went to send it westwest union it stopped you and I was able to get my money back. the number they call me from is 425-440-8053. I filled a report with the CSPD and got a number case. they told me if this man called back to give him the case number and the police number and have them call the local police station
If you did not get the right date and the date they did give I was out of the country so got there called one uncle who is a cop in the city number came from he busted 3 hindi’s man were they surprised. no time doing good in the desert and face being deported on the end of jail time, yes bubba loves her new roomies too
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