Just because they have a lot of information about you does not mean it’s legitimate. These companies are somehow getting access to very detailed information about consumers who applied for and
6pm rcvd calls repeatedly from Michael Moore of “Fraud Office” trying to collect a debt from November 2008, which I’m sure I do not have to Money and More. Alledges, to Jasmine Wright and Maria Sanches that I have commited fraud and a warrant would be issued for my arrest if I do not send $ 1107.15 thru Money Gram and am harrased to send it immediately or expect to be arrested by 8am the next day . After several calls from my attorney to the # 5133994987, left messages, etc., no calls for a few hours now.
No Brittany p not being able to pay a debt will not land you in jail nor can not pay a debt fraud. They may be able to sue you for the debt, but if that happens you must be legally served with a notice of the lawsuit. Is this an old payday loan or are you back on a recent one?
You need to get a handle on the collections process. before you make contact with these gubbers, because they will know if you do not know your rights and they will push you around to get you to acknowledge the debt, accept it and agree to make a payment. That means never ever acknowledges, accept or agree to pay a debt. Period! Even if you owe. Never! Follow the law and get a VOD first. Never ever confirm your details to them. If they claim you are a federal law FDCPA, the burden to be so is on them, you should have your details down. So just tell them to send whatever they have to the address on record. The reason you do not accept a debt is if the statute of limitation has expired for FDCPA the debt is time barred and noncollectable. If you accept it, it restarts the clock all over again.
Later on, the payday lenders gave Mann the data that showed how long it really took those exact customers to pay off their loans. About 60 percent of them paid off the loan within 14 days of the date they were predicted.
You should not be frightened by email threats with online payday loans. They are almost certainly scams. Legitimate debt collectors know that under federal law they must send written notification of the debt. Do not engage with these folks and feel free to report them to the Internet Crime Complaint Center. Please read: 9 Signs You Are Talking to Debt Collection Scammer
Advance America follows all applicable federal and state laws, and the ability to have multiple loans depends on the state regulations. Please keep in mind that having more than one loan out at the same time could make it more difficult to repay your loans.
I’ve been getting these calls. They are also calling my job that I did not have at the time of this alleged loan. I do not want this to affect my job. They’ve called back to back and would not say who they are with and would not agree to send me a letter, saying they have sent several email. There is a call coming through right now while I’m writing this from 1243521256 and yes that’s all of the numbers … eh caller fraud ID as well. What is the name of Vaness? and gave a call back from 650-835 – ???? number. Omg! I am about to file a police report and open a FTC Case in my state.
I took a loan from Money and More in July 2008 and paid the loan back in Aug of 2008 with an electronic with drawl; by Money and More. I had the bank send me my bank records showing both of these trans shares however I was told that unless I had a letter from Money and More that this had been paid my bank records are useless. I have had many payday loans over the years and have never received a full payment from any of them but have always been able to contact them online to check my history can not do this with money and more and the only phone number I can find is not inserving 951-922-6286 who is the scammer ?????. The calls do not come every day they are about 1 or 2 weeks apart. guess I’ll just have to wait and see if they are doing papers on me they know a lot of my personal information as told them I would not send them my bank statements she then recited my bank account number from the account I had at that time has since changed accounts. I have asked for things in writing and have to recieve anything.
wow. That’s disgusting, especially towards your daughter. I’d have told them “odd, I’ve already talked to my county sheriff about this, so PLEASE some over here because he really wants to meet you too! Oh, all of this is recorded and will be given to my Sheriff this afternoon while we’re sitting around waiting
Have been receiving calls for about a month from John Ryan at the AR Group, leaving VM’s saying they are getting ready to file 2 legal documents against me, and to call back at 888-543-9421 ext 303 about the matter, also leaving a reference number. Today he calls and leaves the same message and says that they are filing the legal documents today and that I need to call back. Repeatedly when I try to call back the message that the “call source number is no longer in service”, including a number of times today. The call originally came from 800-533-9421 which is totally different contact when I call. Last year I mistakenly accepted a online payday loan that started a nightmare in my life for $ 200, and do not know if this is a connected issue. Earlier this year I was getting calls from a woman from TYCOLIFTS who gave documentation to about the transaction, and when pressured to pay, she said she would accept a 3 commitment commitment by providing her a valid card number that could be a prepaid card . I did so and the first payment was deducted, then I lost my job and could no longer make payments. She told me that she would not be able to keep the account from legal action, and did not hear
I received a call from Cyrstal from a restricted telephone line that she had papers to serve on my husband in the next day or to call this number 855-212-9406 to find out what it was about. I called and talked with Paul Landon who said it had to do with a payday loan and that if it was not paid, my husband would be served at work. He then went to say the amount was 1,100 but he could wipe it down to 580 if we would pay it right away and he would even let us pay it in 3 payments. I told him I had to talk to my husband and he said not to take as long as he was waiting to have him served and him arrested. Then he gave me his personal number which is 716-462-5680 and the company he works for is Outsource Legal Prep (but I just found this out but doing some internet search – and it seems to be owned by Kevin Walker). I’m glad to have found this out as at first I was scared but now since I know it’s scam I just called them back and told them not to call me back I know it’s a scam and I would turn them in to the proper authorities if they did. Thank you for posting this information.
serve me papers. She lives in Chicago and I live in southern Illinois. I called to see what was going on just to find out it’s a bill I’ve already paid off. The person on the phone told me that my account was just sold to them and they hired a locator to find me to serve me papers. They did not want to serve me at work. I told her it was paid off in July and she said I had to get a “Pay in Full” letter from the collector and they would drop it. I called Asset Management and they are sending me a letter. Asset gave me the corporate number for The Cash Store, I called and was told it was fraud and to stop all contact with this company. I’m still going to send in my “pay in full” letter but if I get anything from BOR again I’m going to go after them for violations of the law. This is ridiculous. I keep good records of all my payments and debts (I’ve had many over the years), I know a lot of people do not. They would have just paid them.
By the way, you can not be arrested just because you can not afford to pay a debt. (Warning, however, there are cases where consumers are jailed in connection with debts because they failed to appear in court after a summary was issued.)
I could not believe how fast everything was processed! I could not believe that I had gotten approved as most lenders do not approve me for some unknown reason. I was so happy and thankful that it came through quickly. Now I’m able to pay for my bond! Thank you!
I am confused. Why would a debt collector say that money you paid them was refundable? Perhaps you were applying for a loan? If so, and if this is an advance loan loan scam, the promise refund is worthless. Did you wire money to them via Western Union by chance? If so, then it’s probably gone to someone overseas already.
solutions that satisfy both sides, and I think this is a solution that does not satisfy both sides, or could at least satisfy both sides. It keeps the industry running for folks who value the product. On the other hand it identifies folks using it incorrectly and allows them to get out without you knowing being more trapped.
I know he’s a scam artist but he and his threats have got into my dad’s head and he’s stressing. I am sick of it. I filed a complaint with the CFPB but I wish the constant threats would stop. Is there any way to speed this up to get harassment to stop?
Fulmer’s firm, Advance America, runs about 2,400 payday loan shops, across 29 states. All in, there are roughly 20,000 payday shops in the U.S., with total loan estimated at around $ 40 billion per year. If you were back to the early 1990s, there were fewer than 500 payday-loan stores. But the industry grew as many states relaxed their usury laws – many states, but not all. Payday lending is prohibited in 14 states, including much of the north and in Washington, D.C. Another nine states allow payday loans but only with more borrower-friendly terms. And that leaves 27 states where payday lenders can charge in the neighborhood of 400 percent interest – states ranging from California to Texas to Wisconsin to Alabama, which is what drew President Obama there.
Do not give them access to your checking account, they will clean you out. Instead send in a check or MO by CMRRR. No offer letter, no check and get off the phone. They want money from you they will send it. And do not be intimidated by that favorite phrase of theirs that they will record “refusal to pay” against you. Big deal, bite my ankle. It means squat and has no legal standing at all.
I received a call from Pay day loan recovery in Illinois. They say it’s for a loan from 2010 and now it’s $ 2300. If I do not settle today I will have my salary garnished and my drivers will be suspended. I thought it was legitimate bc they were not rude. However, in my old paperwork, I can not find any notices or letters. I want to pay any debt that I owe but I dont want to be paying something that is not real. Also, my real fear is suspended for drivers! I have to drive to work
was surprised that I was not served. The guy said if I got served he could not help me. He said I wrote the check in 2007 and the client wants to take me to court for $ 5408 which is 4 years of interest. I think it’s a scam. I do not remember the name of the company. Is this most likely a scam? He only asked for my last 4 numbers of my Social security number ..
A cash advance is a service provided by the most credit card and charge card issuers. The service allows the cardholders to withdraw cash, either via an ATM or over the counter at a bank or other financial agency, up to a certain limit. For a credit card, this will be the credit limit (or some percentage of it).
Crystal – Old payday loan collection effort like this is very often scams. So you should proceed very cautiously and assume it is a scam unless they can really prove otherwise. Ask them to send you a written notice of the debt by snail mail, not email. (Email is too easy to be fake) it’s a good idea to get it out of the world.
Do you believe them Maria ,. they will say anything and even break the law to do so. If it was actually a fraud investigator your local police or sheriffs department would be the person who called you to not have a random person telling you to get an attorney.
I am curious as to what the credit reporting companies plan to do about reporting these animals do! I can not buy a house right now because of a “loan” that I did not take that is being reported on my credit! This has to stop. They can not just mess with people like this. I had to hire an attorney!
What they are doing is illegal, and it’s unlikely you are dealing with a legitimate agency. There are some ideas for getting this post (and in the comments): 7 Ways to Stop Debt Collection Scam Calls. It sounds like if their hope is to frighten you into paying.
told me that this has already been passed that and my salary would be garnished. Stating “they have already contacted your employer and we have their tax identification number.” When asked about the “debt” they kept referring to not showing up on my credit report; I was told that it was on there and she was looking at it right now. Once I said that I was monitoring my credit, she flipped
We also have received several calls. We had applied months back for a payday loan. When we called us back to confirm they were only willing to give us half of what we needed so we told them we were not taking it. Now months later we are getting phones, with the number coming up unknown or as 00000. The guy claims his name is John Frederick. He claims he is from the George Washington Associates and that unless my boyfriend calls him back they will have to take him to court. Repeatdly asks for our attorney’s information. We’ve told him we do not have one and he tells us we get better or pay the debt. My boyfriend works out of town during the week, so the first time I got this call I said this and asked for the name of the company that they are persuading the debt for. He will tell me that he can not give me that information. But when my boyfriend calls them back they will not answer his calls. Today I told him that he had all our other information, so if the debt is real send it to us in paper work, and to stop calling because we have already notified the authorities. I then told him to have a nice day and to F *** off. When he leaves the message on our machine they are always ending “If we do not hear from you all I can do is wish you the best of luck like this badly unfolds on you.” How do we stop these when there is no number ? Its really annoying.
I have been receiving calls from what sounds like the same group of folks. Starting last week I had a message from “Justin Jones” stating that I had to contact him immediately or have my attorney contact him that I would be sorry. If he did not hear from me that I would face some serious legal actions. He also said that they would come to my workplace or home and I will be the only responsible person for further legal consequences and that I should call him bsck as soon as possible before it too late. Thank you and have a blessed day, goodbye. It was very broken Indian dialect. I returned the call and spoke to Derek Anderson. Apparently Justin Jones is one of his “officers.” I was told that They would be willing to settle for $ 998 in place of the $ 1795.00 they said I owed them through Advance Payday Loan. I have never taken a payday loan. I had to give him a debit card or send a payment via Western Union right away or they would have the sheriff come to me on the following three charges. 1 breach of federal banking laws 2 Collateral check fraud, and 3 Theft by deception. I asked for a physical address so that I could send the funds via overnight delivery or some other traceable method. He did not want to give me a physical address but after much questioning from me he gave me an address of 633 Marimbo Street New York, NY 10023 But that they would not accept mail payments, only Western Union (he forgot about the debit and credit card at this point)
this is happening to me they made me buy 2 green dot cards for $ 425 i keep calling them back and they are not answering the phone. I am only 21 years of age I do not know what to do or how to get my money back. Can someone help?
I know you’re panicked about this, but do not be. Social Security payments are generally safe from creditors. (If you have a federally guaranteed loan your Social Security funds may be at risk but even then you will be notified in the phone and not from the phone call out of the blue.)
1. I am a regular or resident member of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, or Coast Guard, which does not specify a period of 30 days or less of a member of the Armed Forces on active duty. The member of the Armed Forces on active duty as described above is the member’s spouse, the member of the child under the age of eighteen years old, or a person for whom the member provided more than one half of his
country you will not have any luck with either.
Processing your completed application at an Advance America store will only take a few minutes. Once processing is complete and you are approved, we will review the fees and terms for your Payday Loan, and you will receive the money you need during that visit.
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governed by state regulatory law. The loan renewal options will be presented to you by your lender before your acceptance of the loan. Please make sure to read the renewal policy presented to you before signing the loan documents. Payday loans are intended to be a short term financial instrument. Cash Advance® encourages all consumers to repay the loan on time and in order to avoid late payment and
First I looked up this 712th court crap and found that it is a site that allows people to print fake legal documents. I pasted this on my email and sent it to them. I also found the same letter on a website that was sent to me, so in my second email to
Bob DeYoung makes a very complicated argument about the use of payday loans. Instead of “trapping borrowers in a cycle of debt,” as President Obama and other critics put it, DeYoung argues that payday loans can help people avoid a cycle of debt – like the late payment of your company company charges for an unpaid bill; like the overdraft fees or bounced-check your bank fees may charge you.
Most of these scammers are hard to track, and if they are in other countries it makes it even more difficult. However, you may want to try filing a police report, and then file a complaint with the CFPB at consumerfinance.gov.
I would recommend you report this to the CFPB and the FTC. Give them as much information as you have about the caller. Next time they call, tell them at the outset you will be recording the call to turn over to law enforcement. Hopefully then they will realize they’re not going to get anything from you and move on.
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