I got a call today from a GA number, 404-996-1953, I was told that an arrest warrant was going to be out at at 5 pm today If I did not make a payment of 300.00 for a loan I did not receive , but bc I applied and cancelled and changed my bank acct information I was going to be held for check fraud, I explained that I never received the loan and she explained that I did not read the fine print that said that by applying for this loan I agreed to pay
I was upset. I looked up Money & More online to see if there was a phone number that I could call to see if I could get more information since they were the ones I did business with. The website has no phone numbers. This to me is crazy. I had made a google search for Money and More when looking for their number. There are several forums and postings about scams to collect a debt from unsuspecting people. Most people are saying too that it was from 2008.
I am confused. Why would a debt collector say that money you paid them was refundable? Perhaps you were applying for a loan? If so, and if this is an advance loan loan scam, the promise refund is worthless. Did you wire money to them via Western Union by chance? If so, then it’s probably gone to someone overseas already.
In your case it sounds so much like the rest of the scams others have shared here on this post so it’s wise to keep on guard. The next time they call, try to get as much contact information about the company – including address, contact phone, name, etc. – then ask them to please provide written documentation in the mail to validate the debt. As we have stated in previous posts, this is a standard procedure when dealing with any debt collector and by law, the collector must comply with this request. If they refuse, they are breaking the law under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and have no right to continue to try to collect. In fact, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, if a collector contacts you by phone they have 5 days in which to send you formal written notice that you owe the debt. The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and your right to dispute the debt, in writing, within 30 days of receipt of the notice.
It’s been gettng calls from a guy who calls hisself jack but is clear from overseas because I can barely understand anything he says. he has gone so far as to call my job ann tell my boss that the company i work for is goin to be held liable for this debt oh yea this guy is supposedly with a law firm. my boss told them last week if they called back i would be terminaed they would not get any money from me .this did not phase him so tuesday he called back they told him the samething so he called my cell phone wantedin me to verify my I did not have a lot of cursed him out with a few racial friends hang up.so then I got a call from another guy clearly not american tellin he was the sheriff of my county they were coming to my work I have been told to serve on my request I gave him one 4 states away so he says do not u speak to? lmbo i said who said the sherriff of my county i just had to ask what county that would be and i was givin some word ive never heard. so after a day of theatrical injury to the loss of my job and 3 felony charges for supposedly getting money from payday usa i am waiting for my sheriff to return my call so i can tell him of this thing impersonate an officer. i work hard for my money and noone is going to harass me like this i’m not stupid so my advice to the scammers scam you own country come here tryin to steal from us hard workin honest folks. and did i mention this trash called my moms and told my 12yr old girl to suck her d ** k !!!! these ppl need to be stopped b4 they meet the end of my shotgun !!
I have been receiving calls from what sounds like the same group of folks. Starting last week I had a message from “Justin Jones” stating that I had to contact him immediately or have my attorney contact him that I would be sorry. If he did not hear from me that I would face some serious legal actions. He also said that they would come to my workplace or home and I will be the only responsible person for further legal consequences and that I should call him bsck as soon as possible before it too late. Thank you and have a blessed day, goodbye. It was very broken Indian dialect. I returned the call and spoke to Derek Anderson. Apparently Justin Jones is one of his “officers.” I was told that They would be willing to settle for $ 998 in place of the $ 1795.00 they said I owed them through Advance Payday Loan. I have never taken a payday loan. I had to give him a debit card or send a payment via Western Union right away or they would have the sheriff come to me on the following three charges. 1 breach of federal banking laws 2 Collateral check fraud, and 3 Theft by deception. I asked for a physical address so that I could send the funds via overnight delivery or some other traceable method. He did not want to give me a physical address but after much questioning from me he gave me an address of 633 Marimbo Street New York, NY 10023 But that they would not accept mail payments, only Western Union (he forgot about the debit and credit card at this point)
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I was contacted by a guy who claims to be with a lawyer firm. He said that charges were filed against me for taking out a payday loan online. It’s against the law in the state of “North Carolina” at the time I did not know this. When I asked who filed charges against me he mentioned the Social Security Commissioner, the Federal Credit Commission and the Attorney General Office. I called all these offices and they all said it sounds like a scam so I gave all the info I have. He told me if I settled out of court I would pay $ 600.00 and if I went to court I could pay $ 1000.00 … he also said I could be arrested. The loans I took out I paid them every month, the Attorney General told me not to worry but this man keeps calling me.
and would gladly accept any papers that they had for me. They immediately got very defensive and rude, I said that I checked my credit regularly and the only loan that I had been for a car and my school loan, They told me that payday loans do not show up on your credit report. I got it out and hung up, only for them to get a hold of my sister and tell her that they were looking for me. They called back a few more time and I ignored the call.
I just got a call stating that i was for fees for payday loan company, it really freaked me out because the message left on my answer machine said something about restraining order and they used my maiden name so I called the number left on my machine It was 813-217-5283 I asked for Tina Charles the woman who left her name I got this guy and he said well the loan company that found the lenders got a fee and that’s what i defaulted on i told him i did not see that in any of the sites and he said that sounds ridicules I told him you sound ridicules and then i yelled goodbye and hung up. I would not have given them any money any way but still it freaked me out
Hello I just recently about a week ago I started receiving a call from a collection agency TRADEMARK MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS in relation to a payday loan that I have to pay on and YES I know that i have a bill but there are tats are freakin nuts … is what was on my answer service … This message is for XX. My name is Theresa Coleman. I’m calling about fax order that I received in my office today in relation to some bad checks you’ve written. You have a chance to contact the complainant and resolve this matter before further action is taken. The complainant may be reached at their corporate office number 877-285-3841and you can refer to your case number ###. XX you have officially been notified. ”
I had calls from Texas and the guy was just talking and talking and he would not let me talk so I said how to pay you, he said give me your debit card, so I said **** you, and he said The cops are going to come in 24 hours and I’m going to lose the case, so I said **** you again, think about what person is Arabic is named Michael brown
I had a similar call last week claiming I defaulted on a PDL from 2008 which I took out and also did pay back in full when it was due. They are threatening me with court and possible criminal prosecution for cheating fraud. The name of the person who called was Timothy and he was calling from something called ADR firm at behalf of his client. He said the client is BG Capital Associates and that they bought the debt from Money and More (who is the company I had the PDL through back in 2008. The phone # they called from and also had me back was 716-748-6566 and 716-748-6519. Has anybody heard of these people or had similar experience?
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he was not allowed to do that since I was at a negative I told him it would go thru, so I told him I would give him my daughters debit card number she had the money and she said it was to be under my name so he told me to get a cash pak (green dot) and call him back with the number on the back. I did that and have to pay another 200 on the 16th and then the other 200.00 next month because he took 300.00 off the original price I owed. I paid the $ 100 because I was scared and did not want my husband to go to jail but I told him I wanted paperwork sent to me and he said he would send it when it was paid off but he would send me a redirect to my email and I have not got it yet. I wish I knew he was really with the Federal Crime Dept like he said he is or if he is a fraud. Cause I do not want to give him anymore but I do not want my husband to go to jail. I know we got a loan thru them but it was supposed to come out of our acct everydayday but he said they tried and it was not taken out due to insufficient funds but I can not remember wheather it was paid off or not. Does anyone know a site I can look under to see if this is fraud? Please HELP
I was contacted by someone at my work number saying they are from Quick Cash who bought a debt from Cash Call saying they are coming to my work in an hour. I asked for their phone number and they would not give it to me. Just that if I did not pay over $ 1,000 today, they were coming to my work. They would not give me any information. Sounded like a call center. They said they had a case against me in the county where I live. Well, I work for a firm firm and look up online to see, there are no cases against me. How do I get them to stop when I have no phone number or information? Thank you!
ERVIN BANKS: I do not see anything wrong with them. I had some back bills I had to pay off. So it did not take me too long to pay it back – about three months, something like that. They are beautiful people.
Ok I got a phone call today for my husband. I know he took out a payday loan 2 years ago and it’s with the people these guys claim they are collecting for. They want my debit card number so that my husband is not “served” and go to court or jail for check fraud. My question here is that they can even go for criminal action for a “fraud check” that was not even technically checked since it was all done online. Also, should I just pay them? They said they are Lincoln or the number is 877-607-5668 I have no problem resolving a legitimate debt but I do not want to get scammed either.
At no point during this aggressive voice mail did he identify his company or any affiliation to another company
I took out a loan from Check N Go about a year ago and I just started to pay it off. A debt collector agency named the PDL Recovery Group started calling me and threatening me if I did not start a payment plan, check N Go was going to take me to court and start garnishing my salary.
You do your best to ask as many questions as you can of the research and of the researchers themselves. You ask where the data comes from, whether it means really what they say it means, and you ask them to explain why they might be wrong, or compromised. You make the best judgment you can, and then you move forward and try to figure out how the research really matters. Because the whole idea of the research, is likely to help solve some big problem.
The payday industry, and some political allies, argue that the CFPB is trying to deny credit to people who really need it. Now, it’s not surprising you that the payday industry does not want this kind of government regulation. Nor should it surprise you that a government agency called the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is trying to regulate an industry like the payday industry.
my fiancé has been getting phone calls from someone saying he is an official mike Johnson from 810-223-0563 said he got a loan for $ 300 over the internet but he did not. he applied for some loans but because his credit is bad and no bank account he could not get one. this guy says he got one but he told us where he was from and like most of you he had his name ss # where he works and is threating to have him arrested. We talked to a cop who said that if we had applied for a loan even over the internet they would have mailed out paperwork anyway with PAYMENT OPTIONS and how long you had to pay it back we got nothing and the pretend cop will not give us the It’s a good idea that we have a lot of money, but we have no money for it. what do you do when they keep threatening you and you have no idea what they are talking about.
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau does not have the power to ban payday lending outright, or to set a nationwide interest-rate cap, but it can act to prevent deemed “unfair, abusive, or deceptive” practices. In March 2015, it announced that it was considered a set of rules for most small-dollar loans (up to $ 500) that consumers are required to repay within 45 days. The goal is to put an end to payday-lending debt traps.
I was receiving threatening calls from someone claiming to be from the Attourney General’s office. Stating that because of a past due credit that they were going to have the authorities pick me up at my place of work and have me arrested. They asked to pay them $ 120 of the $ 500 that I owed them in order for them to hold off on calling the authorites. I have got past due loans and they verified my email address and home address and the company i worked for. I thought it might have been for real, they wanted me to go to the walgreens and pick up a prepaid card in order to make the payment to them. I was going to send them the money but after talking to one of the lawyers within the company I worked for they advised me that this was a scam call trying to get money out of me. Especially since no prio documentation was provided and they refused to provide any documents until I made a payment. The numbers they were calling from were 951-878-0689, and 951-708-1208. I looked up the
A payday loan is usually paid in a single payment on the next borrower, or when the income is received from another source such as a Pension or Social Security. The due date is typically two to four weeks from the date the loan was made. The specific due date is set in the payday loan agreement.
The call was about a cash advance loan that I received over the computer in 2007. They said I owe $ 1500 and I had to give them at least $ 25 before I got off the phone with them or I would be arrested and have to spend $ 5000 to get out of jail, have to pay short money and get put on probation.
Reg – This is a common tactic that is used to scare you into pay without questioning the validity of the debt. There are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
They are so far breaking the law. I have not received a written statement regarding the debt of these payday loans. and they have threatened dire consequences multiple times (number 5 in your article), they definitely call earlier
in giving your money to scammers. First, you can ask the caller to verify the debt. By law, you are entitled to documentation, sent via postal mail, which shows the debt is yours. You can find more information here: The Ultimate Guide to Debt Collection. Please read it, and do not pay money you do not have.
6pm rcvd calls repeatedly from Michael Moore of “Fraud Office” trying to collect a debt from November 2008, which I’m sure I do not have to Money and More. Alledges, to Jasmine Wright and Maria Sanches that I have commited fraud and a warrant would be issued for my arrest if I do not send $ 1107.15 thru Money Gram and am harrased to send it immediately or expect to be arrested by 8am the next day . After several calls from my attorney to the # 5133994987, left messages, etc., no calls for a few hours now.
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And if you are sued by a creditor or collection agency, they must serve you with a notice of the lawsuit (this is usually referred to as a “summons and complaint”). They sue you for the debt; “Filing with the clerk of court for fraud by deception,” is meaningless.
This transaction is being made pursuant to section 23035 of the Financial Code and is not subject to section 1719 of the Civil Code. You are not liable under civil law related to returned return items if you default on this transaction. For example, you are not liable for treble (triple) damages, collection fees, or any other fees other than the $ 15 returned item fee that we charge per transaction (if applicable). As a result, we may not use or use civil return item laws to collect a defaulted transaction.
Defaulting on a loan is not a “felony violation” and what they are saying and doing is illegal under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. The next time you talk with them, ask them to send you a confirmation of the debt-which they are required to do by law. If they refuse, you can tell them that they are breaking the law and you will pursue legal action if they continue to call and harass you.
Rudy – Please do not freak out. This kind of thing happens all the time and what you’re saying happened has all the signs of a scam. I do not want to be taken by a scammer. Read this article: 9 Signs You Are Talking to Debt Collection Scammer
may be the best solution. Not only will filing for bankruptcy cause all collection efforts by creditors to stop immediately, but it can eliminate most of your debt and provide you with a fresh start.
from her again. I do not know if this is connected, but really regretting the small payday loan online in order to pay my rent when I was out of work. Now I do not know what I’m facing with the legal document threats and can not contact the source caller for information in order to try and resolve whatever is the issue. Now that I read the other postings, I’m not sure if I made a payment to a legitimate source either because just after making the loan random deductions started coming out of my checking account so badly that I had to shut it down. Hope my posting this information helps someone who is thinking about taking a chance with online payday loans, and thank you for the website to share and help others in such need.
In either case, take notes of the conversation. In the event they sue you (which would be very rare if either of the scenarios I described are correct) you could show up and explain to the judge how they did not comply with the FDCPA. You could rent an attorney to sue them. If you win you would be entitled to damages and they would have to pay your attorney fees.
One problem with the payday-lending industry-for regulators, for lenders, for the public interest is that it defies simple economic intuition. For instance, in most industries, more competition means lower prices for consumers. That maxim certainly helped guide the deregulation of the fringe lending business in the 1990s and some advocates still believe that further deregulation is the key to making payday loans affordable. Yet there is little evidence that a proliferation of payday lenders produces this consumer-friendly competitive effect. What’s the difference: There are more than double-paid loans in those states (Idaho, South Dakota, Texas, and Wisconsin). by residents of some other states, according to Pew. In the state where the interest rate is capped, the rate that payday lenders charge gravitates right to the cap. “In the race to the lowest rates, it’s a race to the highest rates,” says Tom Feltner, director of financial services at the Consumer Federation of America.
the phone, because I had not received any correspondence from the company. He told me it was not their responsibility to chase me down to collect a debt, that it was my responsibility to take care of it myself. As their lawyer, I could pay him and it would all go away. I said no, and he hung up on me, laughing, quite rudely, stating, “Have fun rotting in prison.”
I made the stupid mistake, and because I was unemployed, but go back to work. I took out loans but started a new job, so I was not worried about paying them back. Well I lost my job and was unable. I’m looking for work, but I’m now getting calls from people other than I borrowed from. (capitol solutions) They are a scam from what I read. They threaten to have my paperwork sent to the court house, come to my house
any other information. The payday borrower then writes a check – and this is the key part of the technology – the payday borrower then writes a check for the amount of the loan and postdates it by two weeks. And this becomes the collateral for the loan. So payday will not pay the loan in two weeks, the payday lender then deposits the check.
I can not wait to talk to these jokers tomorrow and hear the BS. What type of process server would call and warn someone they were getting served on a specific day? Duh, they get paid only they serve the papers!
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