I started doing research about the organization and I had checked the Better Business Bureau and had lots of complaints and rated with an “F”. I did not contact Check N Go about which company they sold the account to and it was not PDL so I’m wondering how they got my information. I had given PDL $ 25 just for them to stop calling me so much I wonder if I should have done that.
“I do not think they’ll be back, because I told them that it’s federal law to send me something written in the mail before trying to collect the debt from me” – Surprisingly, once they know that you know the laws (and better than they do), they typically do back and give up. Thank you for sharing your story, it shows that knowing and understanding your rights can help protect you from being a victim.
MANN: The data really suggests that there is a relatively small group of borrowers, in the range of 10 to 15 percent, who have been extremely heavy users, whose predictions are really bad. And I think that group of people seems to fundamentally not understand their financial situation.
, blah, blah blah. Some people have been middle east, but some are not. I tried to leave a message to call me back but no answer. I went on the net tonight, and have been enlightened. I have to cancel my checking acct. because I gave them my info. I feel so gullable. Just because I gave them auth. for auto withdrawl. Don, do it, please just deal with the companies you took out the loan with !!!
This is exactly the approach by which Donald Trump inadvertently made millions for Michael Wolff. Having so spectacularly backfired the first time, why do it again? The short answer is: Team Trump knows nothing else.
In your case it sounds so much like the rest of the scams others have shared here on this post so it’s wise to keep on guard. The next time they call, try to get as much contact information about the company – including address, contact phone, name, etc. – then ask them to please provide written documentation in the mail to validate the debt. As we have stated in previous posts, this is a standard procedure when dealing with any debt collector and by law, the collector must comply with this request. If they refuse, they are breaking the law under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and have no right to continue to try to collect. In fact, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, if a collector contacts you by phone they have 5 days in which to send you formal written notice that you owe the debt. The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and your right to dispute the debt, in writing, within 30 days of receipt of the notice.
At no point during this aggressive voice mail did he identify his company or any affiliation to another company
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DeYoung also argues that most payday borrowers know exactly what they’re getting into when they sign up; that they’re not unwitting and desperate people who are being preyed on. He points to a key piece of research by Ronald Mann; That’s another co-author on the New York Fed blog post.
MARC FUSARO: The Consumer Credit Research Foundation and I had an interest in the paper being as clear as possible. And if anyone, including Hilary Miller, would take a paragraph that I had written and re-wrote it in a way that made what I was trying to say more clearly, I’m happy for that kind of advice. I’ve taken papers to the university writing center before and they’ve helped me make my writing more clear. And there’s nothing scandalous about that, at all. I mean the results of the paper have never been called into question. Nobody had suggested I changed any other results or anything like that based on any comments from anybody. Frankly, I think this is much ado about nothing.
Answer: While there is no definition of a payday loan, it is usually a short-term, high cost loan, usually for $ 500 or less, that is usually due to your next payday. Depending on your state law, payday loans may be available through storefront payday lenders or online.
I took a loan from Money and More in July 2008 and paid the loan back in Aug of 2008 with an electronic with drawl; by Money and More. I had the bank send me my bank records showing both of these trans shares however I was told that unless I had a letter from Money and More that this had been paid my bank records are useless. I have had many payday loans over the years and have never received a full payment from any of them but have always been able to contact them online to check my history can not do this with money and more and the only phone number I can find is not inserving 951-922-6286 who is the scammer ?????. The calls do not come every day they are about 1 or 2 weeks apart. guess I’ll just have to wait and see if they are doing papers on me they know a lot of my personal information as told them I would not send them my bank statements she then recited my bank account number from the account I had at that time has since changed accounts. I have asked for things in writing and have to recieve anything.
I received several calls from a donna mitchell she gave me a phone number to call 877-882-2435 with a case # i call tehm tehy say the are NCR (National Check Resolution) i really do not belive them when they say they are come to my place of work or my home to serve me .. i know it dosen’t happen that way i have talked to my local police officer and he said not to worry about it. But this time they sound so real .. I know i owe the money but the amout they gave me is atrocious. I just missed one payment and now they want about 800.00 when i only borrowed 350 and i’ve been paying 37.50 since may .. the lady (lisa) said i really do not care if you just pay or i just just a I do not know that it’s really good, it’s really good, it’s really good .. so i’m a little concerned i do not want to ignore it but it all sounds so weird during the whole phone call wiht lisa she kept putting me on hold. she said they would file with the clerk of court for fraud by deception .. and will only let me pay by credit card. I told her I wanted them to send me a bill in the mail and she said they told her they tried to contact me by email .. can not send by mail. I asked by mail again and to send in in payment .. I’m not sure to send them money my gut feeling does not send it to them … but my concious i know i owe the money ..
he was not allowed to do that since I was at a negative I told him it would go thru, so I told him I would give him my daughters debit card number she had the money and she said it was to be under my name so he told me to get a cash pak (green dot) and call him back with the number on the back. I did that and have to pay another 200 on the 16th and then the other 200.00 next month because he took 300.00 off the original price I owed. I paid the $ 100 because I was scared and did not want my husband to go to jail but I told him I wanted paperwork sent to me and he said he would send it when it was paid off but he would send me a redirect to my email and I have not got it yet. I wish I knew he was really with the Federal Crime Dept like he said he is or if he is a fraud. Cause I do not want to give him anymore but I do not want my husband to go to jail. I know we got a loan thru them but it was supposed to come out of our acct everydayday but he said they tried and it was not taken out due to insufficient funds but I can not remember wheather it was paid off or not. Does anyone know a site I can look under to see if this is fraud? Please HELP
I got a call from a guy claiming he was the guy that was sent to serve me for check fraud for a check I wrote a check on December 25, 2007. Honestly who would write a payday one loan on Christmas day. This made me suspect that something is funny. He called me from an unknown number. The guy gave me a 1-877-540 number and a case number which was only a few numbers. I called the number the guy acted like him
This is too much for me at least. These are Indian scammers. They do not care and it’s a scam. They are out to get you. So I take that seriously. I found out a nicely loud sports air horn magic works. I blow it into the phone. Nobody dared to call me back and that was it. I shared this with a few friends and it worked. I guess they needed their other ear intact. So I guess they call someone else. If that is you, do the same. I am determined to send them to another career with one ear messed up. I do not care because they do not either if they manage to scam me.
DEYOUNG: I had written that paper, and had I know 100 percent of the facts about where the data came from and who paid for it – yes, I would have disclosed that. I do not think it’s one way or the other in terms of what the research found and what the paper says.
ALAN STONE 704-389 0723 MICHAEL JOHNSON 204-449-0158 AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE NUMBERS I have them on reject -thats how many times they called.once the call came 21 times back to back like a computer was dialing them … 7501003 is the one they use
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I received a call today from # 209-910-6390. Could not catch the name as he spoke very fast and with a deep accent. He claimed that he was calling on behalf of Cash Advance America USA that was suing me for $ 15,000 for a faulty payday loan of $ 2800.00. I let him give his little talk without interrupting and he told me that someone would be here Friday at 11:00 a.m. to take me to California for my court date on Monday at 11:00 a.m. Beware these guys are getting very crafty and make a lot of stuff that they say they believe. Please DO NOT believe these guys. I just told him thank you for the call and that I would be contacting the FBI about the call because I knew from the start that it was a scam !!! He just said go ahead and that somebody would be at my work tomorrow.
We had a scam call today, they called about a supposed payday loan from 2008. They called me, my husband, my daughter and my daughter in law on our cell phones. We did not even know my girlfriend in 2008, at all. They have everyone’s social and home address, including my son’s new home address. Said my husband owes them $ 2500 and that she would get papers served at her home if we did not pay. I asked them what they would have been serving the papers, she said, hold on let me look, then she changed the subject and never answered. 1-855-201-8789 was the number they gave to call back but they first call you from a private number. Once I figured out I was dealing with scam, I started to call them back informing them that I had filed reports, recorded calls from them, I read them some scam warnings about themselves off the internet, … this is how I got rid of the last scammers, I just kept calling them reminding them of how I knew they were scam and reading them things off the internet about themselves and reading them the current rules they were breaking, etc … I did not cuss or get ugly, I was just matter of fact I’m curious though of how they got my son and daughter in law and phone numbers.
Mark – The next time they call them to provide written documentation to validate the debt (to prove the debt even exists). This is a standard procedure when dealing with any debt collector and by law, the collector must comply with this request. In fact, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, if a collector contacts you by phone they have 5 days in which to send you formal written notice that you owe the debt. The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and your right to dispute the debt, in writing, within 30 days of receipt of the notice.
IT WAS A SCAM !!!!
was fishy and it was a scam this guy was rude threating and harassing me to pay $ 920 i want to find this guy and charge him with threatening and harassment and i know i can tell if anyone has the same problem or is sueing him please and thank you
I can not tell from what you are writing whether it’s a very aggressive debt collector, but remember the debt collectors must follow federal law (and often state laws) that prohibits harassment and false statements.
They called my 87-year-old mother and she asked them how they got her phone number, and a woman said that I had put her down as a contact. However, her new phone number is barely a year old and is not the one given at the time of the payday loan.
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The only insight we can offer at this point is that it’s very likely it’s a scam. If it was a legitimate collector, they would be violating many laws under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. Thankfully, you did the right thing and did not fall for it.
Im glad I read your post. I have been getting calls from people for payday loans that i have had outstanding. they are threatening to take me to court and everything, and i know according to the payday loan laws in illinois they cant do that. My question is this: I had already had two loans out (via front store), and was approved for 5 more online (after which I did not have any of the companies were licensed in illinois. the money to repay at the moment thats when they get rude and nasty with me they keep saying they will put a judgment on my report, etc. 855-216-1354 is one of the numbers i keep getting calls from. my caller id they come up 000 and i wait for them to leave a message I do not pay them anything but i wonder if they really do anything to me the companies according to illinois law should have contacted me to set up I did not want to go back, but now I’m getting these calls, something doesnt seem right
This has all the classic signs of a payday loan scam. I would encourage you to report this firm to the authorities – FTC, CFPB, and tell them next time they call you call their call to report them to law enforcement.
I received a call yesterday from a law office stating that they were going to have me arrested for fraud and theft for not paying a payday loan. They said that it had been over 21 days since I made a payment and that if I wanted to go out of court that all I needed to do was put $ 385 on a green dot moneypak card by today. I have taken out two payday loans just recently and just had my first payment due on Friday which I paid. The number that they are calling from is 401-648-7325 by Lisa Green. She also said that the money had been deposited in my account and when they tried to pay out they were not able to. They also did not give me information on when the deposit took place and what company the payday loan was through. This sounds like a lot of the other posts that I have read but I do not want to take the chance of being arrested … what do I do ??
said it is called [redacted]. They state I took a short-term loan before 2010 and they are a third party trying to get the back back. When I ask her to send me something and tell her I do not see anything on my credit report she says it’s because they have not filed anything yet it has not impacted my credit yet. I told her she had to send me something in writing and she refused. So I got a little rude with her and started asking questions and she hung up on me. I did a little research and many people had the same experience so I blocked the numbers they gave, called id showed [redacted] and the call back on voicemail was [redacted]. They then started calling my mother and sister. I have made complaints to the FCC, attorney general, the donotcall.gov and BBB. How else can I make these calls stop? It’s frustrating !!!
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the threats. Do not worry they’re all scam … The cops are still investigating … The cops contacted NCN guys .. (who were probably freaked out … lol) and these guys said they had nothing to do with the calls … Its just made up fake company name … and they are just making prank calls …
• Do not let one of these companies scare you into making payments if you’re not sure you owe the debt. In most cases, collectors must first take you to court and get a judgment before they can go after your pay or property. (If you live in Minnesota, however, read this warning.)
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Yes .. I’m getting the same calls as you and from the same guy .. Timothy and yes, he said he’s calling from ADR .. and today I got a call from Tom Hayden who did not identify the company he was he .. he said he received a fax in his office and I had one chance to clear it up by calling 877 548-4064 .. he said I have charges pending against me and would be served. He did not leave a number he could be reached at only ADR’s number. When I called the lady said that I had a loan PD and that I had to pay it right then over the phone by credit card or debit card or give them a member of the credit card etc .. otherwise I was going to be served and would have to go to court and possibly be jailed for check fraud. She then put her “boss” on the phone who named her Gregory Scott and said she would do me a favor and reduce the amount owed by 200.00 which is what she was going to pay the server to come and serve me papers but Only if I can secure him with a debit card or credit card. I asked him where he thought I could get one and he said ACE cash express .. I told him I did not have a credit card nor did I have a pre-paid debit card .. I asked him for the information in writing so I could verify that they were legit and he hung up on me. Seriously, maybe we should do something about this ADR company .. they called my cousin and I never used my cousin as ANYTHING reference and they threatened him (this time when he just lost his sister to cancer) and they told him he needed to secure my debt.
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I got a call today from a GA number, 404-996-1953, I was told that an arrest warrant was going to be out at at 5 pm today If I did not make a payment of 300.00 for a loan I did not receive , but bc I applied and cancelled and changed my bank acct information I was going to be held for check fraud, I explained that I never received the loan and she explained that I did not read the fine print that said that by applying for this loan I agreed to pay
Fulmer says that payday-loan interest rates are not almost as predatory as they seem, for two reasons. First: When you hear “400 percent on an annualized basis,” you might think that people are borrowing the money for a year. But these loans are designed to be held for just a few weeks, unless, of course, they get rolled over a bunch of times. And, reason number two: because payday loans are so small – the average loan is about $ 375 – the fees need to be relatively high to make it worthwhile for the lender. For every $ 100 borrowed, Fulmer says, the lender gets about $ 15 in fees. So, capping the rate at an annualized 36 percent just would not work.
Even though there may not be a lot you can do about the call, it may be worthwhile to file a complaint with your state attorney general and with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
I received a call from Jonathan Andrews of Adams, Peterson and Irving stating I have a file placed with them that needs immediate attention. The caller said they would send the file to my county for prosecution. 844-580-7842 was the number on my caller ID … who has this experience? What was the result.
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