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One big advice PEOPLE !! Try to avoid giving out your personal information. Avoid any suspicious telemarketing calls (they get your info) or sign any document at your doorstep … This decade is FULL of scammers … so DO NOT get cheated!
It can be frustrating and embarrassing when debt collectors call relatives, and, as you suspect, some debt collectors use tactics that are not legal. But, as a consumer, you are not powerless. Here are three Credit.com articles you may find useful, and thanks for alerting others to the kind of treatment you have received.
Tiffany – Phone numbers can be easily faked. And “a little convincing” is not good enough. What you need to know is whether they are a legitimate collection agency and you actually owe the debt. The first step is always to ask them to MAIL you information about the debt. That’s required by law. If they do not, then refuse to talk with them until they do. Do not accept email or anything less.
There is no westwood mediation. If they are talking with a high accent they are Indian scammers. It’s the latest foreign scam being hoisted on Americans, gullible ones that it. If you have applied or attempted to apply for a payday loan, they will call you at some point. Be ready when they call. They are looking for some one gullible to easily victimize. You can not reason with them and anyway they are conducting a scam so deal with it properly – blowing a loud air air horn into the phone. They get the message with that loud and clear that you are not to be messed with and they usually move on.
Ok I got a phone call today for my husband. I know he took out a payday loan 2 years ago and it’s with the people these guys claim they are collecting for. They want my debit card number so that my husband is not “served” and go to court or jail for check fraud. My question here is that they can even go for criminal action for a “fraud check” that was not even technically checked since it was all done online. Also, should I just pay them? They said they are Lincoln or the number is 877-607-5668 I have no problem resolving a legitimate debt but I do not want to get scammed either.
MANN: The data really suggests that there is a relatively small group of borrowers, in the range of 10 to 15 percent, who have been extremely heavy users, whose predictions are really bad. And I think that group of people seems to fundamentally not understand their financial situation.
After studying the millions of payday loans, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau found that 67 percent went to borrowers with seven or more transactions per year, and the majority of borrowers paid more in fees than the amount of their initial loan. This is why Diane Standaert, the director of state policy at the Center for Responsible Lending, says 36 percent interest-rate cap, says, “The typical borrower experience involves long-term indebtedness-that’s core to the business model.”
I was contacted by the same company and paid. Did not receive a receipt either. Then I contacted the company they said I supposedly owed the money to. The payday loan company looked up my info and said I had never had a loan with them and advised me to call my bank. My Bank is now going after PDLR group for fraud.
Thank you, I’m not sure the investigator called the house number and when I called the agency that is statewide mediation they said I should not see why a sheriff would come to my house over a debt owed
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Christy – Do not panic. It sounds like you’re talking with a scammer. Please read this article. Do not send them a prepaid card. If it was a legitimate collection agency they would allow you to send a check. They want a prepaid card because it can not be traced. And once you pay them something, they will never leave you alone. Read this: 9 Signs You Are Talking to Debt Collection Scammer
I b. I have been receiving the same calls from Jason and Ms. Thomas from the same company in Illinois. (ALSO, SAID THEY WOULD GARNISH WAGES AND REVOKE MY LICENSE) They have now started employing americans to make these calls to make it sound legit. So I advised that I have been recording these calls for the FBI investigation that I am involved in. I am a professional lawyer and debt collector can not call you without verifying that they have the correct person and that would be done via certified mail with a summons and complaint against you. Also, if the collector such as Jason Locke and Ms. Thomas from 877-601-5871 Ext 259 and 877-601-5871 Ext 251 were real debt collectors they would have to provide written proof of the original loan, copies of the e-sign agreement between you and the lender, account numbers, telephone numbers for the lender etc … This guy Jason did not know his own address when I asked him and he could not confirm my full social security number. Also, one tip to remember is legit collectors have to say the following statement before talking with you “This is a try to collect a debt etc.”, so remember that. The unfortunately was scammed out of $ 500.00 a few years ago and I paid the fees and sent fax to them
No Brittany p not being able to pay a debt will not land you in jail nor can not pay a debt fraud. They may be able to sue you for the debt, but if that happens you must be legally served with a notice of the lawsuit. Is this an old payday loan or are you back on a recent one?
The payday industry, and some political allies, argue that the CFPB is trying to deny credit to people who really need it. Now, it’s not surprising you that the payday industry does not want this kind of government regulation. Nor should it surprise you that a government agency called the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is trying to regulate an industry like the payday industry.
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DUBNER: Obviously the history of lending is long and often, at least in my reading, tied to religion. There is a prohibition against it in Deuteronomy and elsewhere in the Old Testament. It’s in the New Testament. In Shakespeare, the Merchant of Venice was not the hero. So, do you think that the general view of this kind of lending is colored by an emotional or moral argument too much at the expense of an economic and practical argument?
from her again. I do not know if this is connected, but really regretting the small payday loan online in order to pay my rent when I was out of work. Now I do not know what I’m facing with the legal document threats and can not contact the source caller for information in order to try and resolve whatever is the issue. Now that I read the other postings, I’m not sure if I made a payment to a legitimate source either because just after making the loan random deductions started coming out of my checking account so badly that I had to shut it down. Hope my posting this information helps someone who is thinking about taking a chance with online payday loans, and thank you for the website to share and help others in such need.
, unless you have to show up and prove it.
the past several days, some entity claiming they have papers to serve have been blowing up relative relatives. Trying to acertain my whereabouts. The days that I have not worked. No one has been to my doorstep to do, the email i recieved is at best enough to leave skepticism abound, considering the sentence and word structure and does not jive as being official. If you want to see it reply back
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So far I’ve closed the account and opened up a new one. Put fraud alert on my credit reports and requested from my bank transactions from the years of the CRS Solutions have me the loans were supposedly taken out.
DeYoung also argues that most payday borrowers know exactly what they’re getting into when they sign up; that they’re not unwitting and desperate people who are being preyed on. He points to a key piece of research by Ronald Mann; That’s another co-author on the New York Fed blog post.
I’m very leary about calling them back and giving them my current address as I do not have them to have another piece of the puzzle if this is a scam. It’s just that the lady not only sounded sympathetic but did give me good good advice in this case is the theft ID. but again if the debt was real and even if someone used my ID to get these loans the PayDay Loan companies had a current and active bank account that could have accessed.
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Jason – It absolutely sounds like the classic overseas payday loan scam. Do not send them a penny. Remember, in the US a debt collector is required to send notification of the debt to you in writing. If he does not, he’s breaking the law. Report these guys to the FTC and your state attorney general.
I had calls from Texas and the guy was just talking and talking and he would not let me talk so I said how to pay you, he said give me your debit card, so I said **** you, and he said The cops are going to come in 24 hours and I’m going to lose the case, so I said **** you again, think about what person is Arabic is named Michael brown
Just got a call from a place called themselves Capital Services. A bit aggressive, had my information, what banking bank has and social security number. I run my credit reports every year. These people said they were representing SJM Marketing for a payday loan I took out in 2009 and was defaulted. I have not seen any such place on my reports. They had my address, but not the one I was living in at the time. They had my wife’s new email address, that she did not have at the time. Their number is 646-354-2096.
A few months back, my best friend got a call from someone re: I said I was going to jail if I did not pay something by the end of the day. I had used her as a reference to a payday advance through Check N Go so that’s probably how they got her name and number. She called me hysterical, I freaked out and of course, called them. The guy was very rude and told me I would go to jail if it was not paid that day by 4 and told me I’d be arrested for check fraud. I explained what happened, did not give any info or offer payment, but was so upset. I completely freaked out and thought “oh my gosh, who will take care of my kids if I go to jail?” I called my attorney and he told me to ignore it, and that no, I could not get arrested. I was relieved !!! I do not have to pay for that payday above, I believe it was from a year or two ago. I lost my job after, fell on hard times and I still pick up the pieces of money and have not been able to pay it. Now that I’ve read this, I’m pretty sure these callers are scammers. Beware people! Oh yes, and of course, when I listen to the envelope info of the voicemails, they are blocked and it says “an outside caller”. I wish there was something I could do to get these clowns in trouble, because if I had made any payment and found out it was not paying my debt, I would be devastated.
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I got a call from ACS stating that they would need to get my account settled and that my account was due to go to court due to payday loan fraud, and that i have 24 hours to call back and considered myself served, they also said that they were a lawfirm. They called mt family members and said I had to call them back and that they did not have any credit plans or credit cards or check over the phone. they kept calling on the summons division, what i’m going to do is ask them for a letter, an address of where they are located and their website, ‘
DUBNER: Now, Bob, the blog post is a pop version of a meta-study, which rolls up other research on different pieces of the issue. I’m sorry that the studies that you cite in the post are not just the biased rantings of some ultra-right-wing pro-market-at-all-cost lunatics. And I realize that at least one of the primary studies was authored by yourself, so I guess I’m asking you to prove that you are not an ultra-right-wing pro-market-at-all-cost lunatic.
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with a case # So I immediately called back and a lady answered as “United” and asked for my case #. I gave it to her and she said I owe for a PDL from Sept 2011 with ACE. I do not remember having a loan with them. I have had PDLs before and thought I’ve forgot about it. I Todd them I’m on maternity leave and have no income. Then she transferred me to her supervisor because she was monitoring the call and wanted to try and work something out with me. He asked if Ihad people I can borrow the money from because if it does not get paid I will go to court and be charged with fraud check. Scared the crap out of me! So he said I can pay $ 150 by Jan 25th and the rest by Feb 22. I asked why I never got anything in the mail. He asked if the address he had was right, it was an address that I moved out of in June 2011. So he said that’s why. He said I had to get the payment plan with a debit card. I was stupid and gave it to him. The last few days I’ve been thinking about it because I just did not remember this loan. Then I remembered that in AZ they have no real payday loans, they were outlawed in 2010. Now they give you a loan off your car registration or title. So if I defaulted then they would have come and taken my car. Also, IF you give them a check it has to be a voided check. So how can I have a bad check if they can not cash it being that it was voided? So … .does it sounds like my situation is also a scam? If so I probably need to cancel my card.
If it was legit she would have no problem giving the address to the company. She will not divulge this information as she does not want to be sued for illegal collection tactics. Ignore them and move on.
It sounds like if the caller is breaking the law; a collection agency can not send you to jail. Read 5 Things to Debt Collector Should Never Say “and 11 Ways to Debt Collector May Be Breaking the Law for more information and advice on how to handle calls.
but here’s where weird the 671-933-7954 is a VOIP number that the name is not listed, the person said they are based in Miami. nothing comes up with this name But the kicker is IF I did not take out these Payday loans the bank account they have been active and never been closed so they would not be a reason they would not have been able to get the money.
And if you are sued by a creditor or collection agency, they must serve you with a notice of the lawsuit (this is usually referred to as a “summons and complaint”). They sue you for the debt; “Filing with the clerk of court for fraud by deception,” is meaningless.
There is a long and often twisted history of industries co-opting scientists and other academic researchers to produce findings that make their industries look safe or more reliable or otherwise better than they really are. Whenever we talk about academic research on this show – which is pretty much every week – we try to show the provenance of that research and establish how legitimate it is. The best first step in figuring that out is to ask what kind of incentives are at play. But that is only one step.
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