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about a year ago very threatening and I initially set up a payment. When I found all the scam info online I have not got that account. I honestly do not remember if I had a payday loan default I do not remember having one. They called again but the guy said he was a fraud investigator for the commonwealth of pa and I would be brought up on all of these bogus sounding charges of fraud bad checks etc from a loan probably from 2008. He also knew I have a misdemeanor record and brought it up to me which is what scared me. When I said I know this is a scam he got furious said he would love to see me get prosecuted. I just said anything and hung up. Googled the phone number he left on vm was 8558870097 and it def seems like a scam. Latest loans from my research are illegal in and even if I did have said the default loan which I do not believe I did the statute of limitations on the debt on the 4 years fraud 2 years. I obviously realize the only fraud is these people but I still can not help but worry about this.
I received a voice mail today from some guy who identified herself as a “Carl Thomas”. He never told me who he was with or what his business was. He gave me a claim number and said that he had a pending wage garnishment order and a motion to suspend my drivers license. He left a number (877-601-5861 x261) I called the number to meet the guy but the number he gave was not a working number. So I called the number that appeared on my caller ID. A woman answered only by saying “what extension please”. What number did I call and she answered “an answer service”. So I gave the extension. I was connected with “Carl Thomas” and I advised him that I had received a message for someone and that the information he left on the voice was illegal by law debt collection. Carl Thomas got real mad real quick and told me I did not have to tell him how to do his “F # $ King job” and that if I did not give him the god * & am file number that I could go to hell and shove it. So after he hung up on me I called the answer service back and they advised me that it was a company called PDLR with a PO Box in Aurora, Illinois. The number to the “answer service” is 603-486-1900. Hope this helps.
I would need that same number when I was in jail..I told her it was BS and I would not discuss further without proof in writing. I have paid off EVERY loan that I ever took out..none defaulted … and I kept the papers stating the fact!
Crystal – Old payday loan collection effort like this is very often scams. So you should proceed very cautiously and assume it is a scam unless they can really prove otherwise. Ask them to send you a written notice of the debt by snail mail, not email. (Email is too easy to be fake) it’s a good idea to get it out of the world.
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, unless you have to show up and prove it.
DeYOUNG: They do not overdraft the checking account and take out the payday loan because they’ve done the calculus. That overdrafting on four or five checks at their bank is going to cost them more money than taking out the payday loan.
ERVIN BANKS: I do not see anything wrong with them. I had some back bills I had to pay off. So it did not take me too long to pay it back – about three months, something like that. They are beautiful people.
He said he worked for Morgan Lewis on behalf of Money & More. He had all my personal information, bank information, ssn, dob. He told me I had committed internet fraud by taking out a loan and not paying it back. I did not remember to take out a loan online & told him I did not remember to take out a loan on the internet. He then told me that he had email transactions and verification from my bank that the ACH withdrawal was declined twice so I had committed internet fraud and was going to jail. He then hung up on me.
We also have received several calls. We had applied months back for a payday loan. When we called us back to confirm they were only willing to give us half of what we needed so we told them we were not taking it. Now months later we are getting phones, with the number coming up unknown or as 00000. The guy claims his name is John Frederick. He claims he is from the George Washington Associates and that unless my boyfriend calls him back they will have to take him to court. Repeatdly asks for our attorney’s information. We’ve told him we do not have one and he tells us we get better or pay the debt. My boyfriend works out of town during the week, so the first time I got this call I said this and asked for the name of the company that they are persuading the debt for. He will tell me that he can not give me that information. But when my boyfriend calls them back they will not answer his calls. Today I told him that he had all our other information, so if the debt is real send it to us in paper work, and to stop calling because we have already notified the authorities. I then told him to have a nice day and to F *** off. When he leaves the message on our machine they are always ending “If we do not hear from you all I can do is wish you the best of luck like this badly unfolds on you.” How do we stop these when there is no number ? Its really annoying.
STP management group is i was harassed by, I had to change my cell #, but they were still harassing me at work. I filed a report with the consumer financial protection office and they said they would stop & desist contacting me. They claim they have a good standing with the BBB, but of course when I look them up with such company exists. These scammers are bold and taking advantage of people with scare tactics.
Crystal – It could be a scam or it could be a legitimate collection. They being detective sound suspect but to know for sure, you’ll need more information from them. For step-by-step instructions on how to deal with a collector when they call, this resource can help:
DEYOUNG: Oh, I think that our history of usury laws is a direct result of our Judeo-Christian background. And even Islamic banking, which follows in the same tradition. But clearly interest on lent or borrowed money has, has been looked at non-objectively, let’s put it that way. So the shocking APR numbers if we apply them to rent a hotel or rent a car or lend your father’s gold watch or your mother’s silverware to the pawnbroker for a month, the APRs come out similar. So the shock from these numbers is, we recognize the shock here because we are used to calculate interest rates on loans but not interest rates on anything else. And it’s human nature to want to hear bad news and it’s, you know, the media understands this and so they report bad news more often than good news. We do not hear this. It’s like the houses that do not burn down and the stores that do not get robbed.
I also received a call from this fraud investigator but he named her morgan and she worked for the commonwealth of pa. Yeah right. He also said my debt was from 2008 from money and more and threatened me with 5 or 6 bogus charges. But what did you think I was looking for? My name was bc he knew unfortunately I have a misdemeanor record and tried to use that against me from when I was 18. These people really scare you into thinking you owe. The first time he called I got a payment about a year ago. Different person had called. It was a prepaid card thank God not my bank that I do not have the bank acct they reference anymore. I also live in pa and when I told him I knew it was a scam He said he could not wait to see me prosecuted. Nolegit company would talk like this. And the statute of limitation on debt is 4 years in fraud 2years my supposed loan was in 2008. As well as you tell them you know it’s a scam they flip. He told me I was gonna need a good attorney etc. If such charges were to be brought against someone I’m sure they would not wait 5 years. Still scared you when they call because you see what they are threatening to do to people. Do not understand how this happens to so many.
DeYoung, along with three co-authors, recently published an article about payday loans on Liberty Street Economics. That’s a blog run by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Another co-author, Donald Morgan, is Assistant Vice President at the New York Fed. The article is entitled “Reframing the Debate About Payday Lending.”
Please do not panic. You can not be arrested because you can not pay this debt. If they call again, you can not reply until they send something in writing on their letterhead by mail (not email!). That’s your right under federal law. (A warrant for check fraud is a sign you are dealing with a scammer. That’s not check fraud
I just wondering have anyone heard of KDE Recovery Services … They called me today about a payday loan and I hung up. The lady called me back and left a very rude message on my voicemail calling me ignorant and if I did not pay she was going to sign this affidavit and have a warrant issued to my job to be arrested. It sounds like a scam but I’m not sure they say it’s a loan I had back in 2007. They have my name, address, phone numbers and social security number. it starts to really freak me out
I just had this happen and
Yes .. I’m getting the same calls as you and from the same guy .. Timothy and yes, he said he’s calling from ADR .. and today I got a call from Tom Hayden who did not identify the company he was he .. he said he received a fax in his office and I had one chance to clear it up by calling 877 548-4064 .. he said I have charges pending against me and would be served. He did not leave a number he could be reached at only ADR’s number. When I called the lady said that I had a loan PD and that I had to pay it right then over the phone by credit card or debit card or give them a member of the credit card etc .. otherwise I was going to be served and would have to go to court and possibly be jailed for check fraud. She then put her “boss” on the phone who named her Gregory Scott and said she would do me a favor and reduce the amount owed by 200.00 which is what she was going to pay the server to come and serve me papers but Only if I can secure him with a debit card or credit card. I asked him where he thought I could get one and he said ACE cash express .. I told him I did not have a credit card nor did I have a pre-paid debit card .. I asked him for the information in writing so I could verify that they were legit and he hung up on me. Seriously, maybe we should do something about this ADR company .. they called my cousin and I never used my cousin as ANYTHING reference and they threatened him (this time when he just lost his sister to cancer) and they told him he needed to secure my debt.
WERTH: The best example concerns a economist named Marc Fusaro at Arkansas Tech University. So, in 2011, he released a paper called “Do Payday Loans Trap Consumers in a Cycle of Debt?” And his answer was, basically, no, they do not.
I ask them to give me the number to the payday loan company and they gave me a number and I called them and tried told me that I looked like a real nice lady so they would wave the fee and everything I would have to pay back is just the $ 300 i borrowed and he told me to wait 15 because he was going to fax the law firm. So I’m going to go back and call the guy I talked with. Sean Williams told me that they offered it and went to Walgreens and got a vanilla reload network card and called them and gave them the 10 digit number on the back. So my stupid a ** did it. Well then he said he would have to call me back with my confermation number? Really ?? Well then 15 minutes after I paid them I got a call from MO telling me the exact same thing !!! And I blew up and said well maybe I need to get a lawyer and sue you! Then he goes on to tell me that he is going to follow thinking with more prosicution and that only God can help me now and hung up. So I called the firm from OK and they said it was because I owed another loan. Which I do. But mind you just got these loans on March 1, 2013 and the other March 5, 2013. How can they already be in default? Anyway a man named Ted or Tod Cummings spoke with me and said I lied to his officer. Sean Williams. And did not tell him I had another loan. Ok if you could pull up the other one why not you pull up that one? All this makes since after I’ve done give them $ 300! Then he told me to see what I could do about getting the other loan taken care of on a different vanilla prepaid card. That it was not the same card as I used before. Why? It’s reloadable. He told me he talked with the free credit and everything. I have anxiety issues have got so scared I threw up. The number they called from was 580-823-1582. So I got mad an look the number up online! It’s a cell phone the person who owns the phone is named Time. What law is you going to call from a cell phone? I can not believe I let them get me !!!!!
I got this call at my job telling me to pay this payday loan. I took out. I never did. I consulted with my attorney and he said to her a scam because they have to send you something in mail. I never got anything. No court sum or anything. Beaver here is the phone number: (213) 260-9435
Which suggests there is a small but substantial group of people who are so financially desperate and
I took out a loan from Check N Go about a year ago and I just started to pay it off. A debt collector agency named the PDL Recovery Group started calling me and threatening me if I did not start a payment plan, check N Go was going to take me to court and start garnishing my salary.
Creditors are required to provide written verification of a debt within five days of contacting you. They also do not make threats they do not intend to keep – like filing charges. You can find more about your debt collection here:
There is no westwood mediation. If they are talking with a high accent they are Indian scammers. It’s the latest foreign scam being hoisted on Americans, gullible ones that it. If you have applied or attempted to apply for a payday loan, they will call you at some point. Be ready when they call. They are looking for some one gullible to easily victimize. You can not reason with them and anyway they are conducting a scam so deal with it properly – blowing a loud air air horn into the phone. They get the message with that loud and clear that you are not to be messed with and they usually move on.
You can do all of us should do – check your credit reports and scores regularly. Given the number of data people are required to give Social Security numbers, we are all at some risk. We wrote about somewhat similar situation here: Help! Someone Is Using My Social Security Number
Funny thing is, they have a website but anyone can get a website these days. They are also listed in the BBB website with a C- rating. C- because of complaints. Their website domain is via GoDaddy. Now thats classy.
Ask them to send you a notification of the debt. They are required to do that within three business days of calling you. If they are not, they are definitely not up and up. Also, debt collectors can not make false statements. Telling you that you will go to jail for check fraud will probably fall under that category. (You can not go to jail just because you can not pay a debt) and you’re right – not paying back a payday loan is not check fraud.)
DeYOUNG: Borrowing money is like renting money. You have to use it for a few weeks. You could rent a car for two weeks, right? You get to use that car. Well, if you calculate the annual percentage rate on that car rental – that means that you divide the amount you pay on that car by the value of that automobile – you get similarly high rates. So this is not about interest. This is about short-term use of a product that’s been lent to you. This is just arithmetic.
Installment loans offer larger loan amounts and longer refund terms than payday loans typically provide. An installment loan offers you the ability to repay over time, according to your pay schedule.
DEYOUNG: Studies that have looked at this have found that once you control for the demographics and income levels in these areas and these communities, the racial characteristics no longer drive the location decisions. As you can expect, business people do not care what color their customers are, as long as their money’s green.
Fulmer says that payday-loan interest rates are not almost as predatory as they seem, for two reasons. First: When you hear “400 percent on an annualized basis,” you might think that people are borrowing the money for a year. But these loans are designed to be held for just a few weeks, unless, of course, they get rolled over a bunch of times. And, reason number two: because payday loans are so small – the average loan is about $ 375 – the fees need to be relatively high to make it worthwhile for the lender. For every $ 100 borrowed, Fulmer says, the lender gets about $ 15 in fees. So, capping the rate at an annualized 36 percent just would not work.
any other information. The payday borrower then writes a check – and this is the key part of the technology – the payday borrower then writes a check for the amount of the loan and postdates it by two weeks. And this becomes the collateral for the loan. So payday will not pay the loan in two weeks, the payday lender then deposits the check.
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couple months ago stating that I had taken out a loan in Aug of 2012. They said they had papers for me and that I had to pay right away to avoid legal action. They gave me the bank account number and checking account number that the money was deposited in, had my social security number and knew where
I’m getting calls often, different numbers, started about a week ago.It is scary, and upsetting.Latest is from 1-718-841-6480.Thaey call work, threatens to file charges against me, I will be arrested if I don i pay.A guy tried to get me $ 560 immediately.I didn’t.Help
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