Whatever you want to call it – wage deflation, structural unemployment, the absence of good-paying jobs – is not that a bigger problem? And, if so, what’s to be done about that? Next time on Freakonomics Radio, we will continue this conversation by looking at a strange, controversial proposal to make sure everyone’s got enough money to get by.
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There is a long and often twisted history of industries co-opting scientists and other academic researchers to produce findings that make their industries look safe or more reliable or otherwise better than they really are. Whenever we talk about academic research on this show – which is pretty much every week – we try to show the provenance of that research and establish how legitimate it is. The best first step in figuring that out is to ask what kind of incentives are at play. But that is only one step.
DEYOUNG: Yes, I like to think of myself as an objective observer of social activity, as an economist. But there is one section of the blog where we highlight mixed evidence. That helps you to reduce the risk of money at home level. And we also point to, I believe, an equal number of studies in that section that find the exact opposite. And then of course there is another section in the blog where we point directly to rollovers and rollovers is where the rubber hits the road on this. If we can somehow predict which folks will not be able to handle this product and will roll it over incessantly, then we can impress on payday lenders not to make the loans to those people. This product, in fact, is especially badly suited to predict this because the payday lender gets a small number of pieces of information when she makes the loan, as opposed to the information that a regulated financial institution would collect. The cost of collecting that information, of underwriting the loan in the traditional way that a bank would be, would be too high for the payday to offer the product. If we load up additional costs on the production of these loans, the loans will not be profitable any longer.
DEYOUNG: If we take an objective look at the folks who use payday lending, what we find is that most users of the product are very satisfied with the product. Survey results show that almost 90 percent of the users of the product say that they are either somewhat satisfied or very satisfied with the product afterwards.
DEYOUNG: That’s a very standard disclaimer. The Federal Reserve System is a unique alternative to regulators across the world. They see the value in having their researchers exercise science and academic freedom because they know that inquiry is a good thing.
ERVIN BANKS: I do not see anything wrong with them. I had some back bills I had to pay off. So it did not take me too long to pay it back – about three months, something like that. They are beautiful people.
Just because they have a lot of information about you does not mean it’s legitimate. These companies are somehow getting access to very detailed information about consumers who applied for and
In May 2008, I took out a payday
I got scammed. I am inthe process of settling the loan, but getting calls from people claiming to state state attorneys and one claiming to be an investigator or a detective and want me to settle out of court and make payment to him. He claims I will be arested and put in jail.
The one who called me was American legal services .. I have never been to jail in my life Thank God I called a lawyer first .. Should I know when they were avoiding my request for detailed info.
I just received
Funny thing is, they have a website but anyone can get a website these days. They are also listed in the BBB website with a C- rating. C- because of complaints. Their website domain is via GoDaddy. Now thats classy.
I just got a call from a friend friend stating someone called me from an arbitration placeor something. She gave me the name and name of the person. Apparently they told my friend that I had to contact them before the end of business tomorrow or they are going to suspend my license and have money garnished from my checks. One big problem is a drive for a company so without my license I would not be working. This is threatening my job life and family. They were really rude. I did call the number and I left a message for them to call me back. I suspect this is a scam because I got married a little over a year ago. And they have my social security number and my name name and they called my friend. I suspect it is a scare tactic from a loan called security finance. But I did not hear from them since a month before I got married. I’m looking into this before I give them any info at all
DeYOUNG: They do not overdraft the checking account and take out the payday loan because they’ve done the calculus. That overdrafting on four or five checks at their bank is going to cost them more money than taking out the payday loan.
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Do you believe them Maria ,. they will say anything and even break the law to do so. If it was actually a fraud investigator your local police or sheriffs department would be the person who called you to not have a random person telling you to get an attorney.
No, debtors are not allowed to threaten you. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is now taking complaints about collection practices. You can file one here:
I made the stupid mistake, and because I was unemployed, but go back to work. I took out loans but started a new job, so I was not worried about paying them back. Well I lost my job and was unable. I’m looking for work, but I’m now getting calls from people other than I borrowed from. (capitol solutions) They are a scam from what I read. They threaten to have my paperwork sent to the court house, come to my house
Crystal – It could be a scam or it could be a legitimate collection. They being detective sound suspect but to know for sure, you’ll need more information from them. For step-by-step instructions on how to deal with a collector when they call, this resource can help:
After studying the millions of payday loans, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau found that 67 percent went to borrowers with seven or more transactions per year, and the majority of borrowers paid more in fees than the amount of their initial loan. This is why Diane Standaert, the director of state policy at the Center for Responsible Lending, says 36 percent interest-rate cap, says, “The typical borrower experience involves long-term indebtedness-that’s core to the business model.”
from her again. I do not know if this is connected, but really regretting the small payday loan online in order to pay my rent when I was out of work. Now I do not know what I’m facing with the legal document threats and can not contact the source caller for information in order to try and resolve whatever is the issue. Now that I read the other postings, I’m not sure if I made a payment to a legitimate source either because just after making the loan random deductions started coming out of my checking account so badly that I had to shut it down. Hope my posting this information helps someone who is thinking about taking a chance with online payday loans, and thank you for the website to share and help others in such need.
this is happening to me they made me buy 2 green dot cards for $ 425 i keep calling them back and they are not answering the phone. I am only 21 years of age I do not know what to do or how to get my money back. Can someone help?
I got online immediately to look in my email for said correspondence. I found an email that I had initiated requesting information on how
It’s been gettng calls from a guy who calls hisself jack but is clear from overseas because I can barely understand anything he says. he has gone so far as to call my job ann tell my boss that the company i work for is goin to be held liable for this debt oh yea this guy is supposedly with a law firm. my boss told them last week if they called back i would be terminaed they would not get any money from me .this did not phase him so tuesday he called back they told him the samething so he called my cell phone wantedin me to verify my I did not have a lot of cursed him out with a few racial friends hang up.so then I got a call from another guy clearly not american tellin he was the sheriff of my county they were coming to my work I have been told to serve on my request I gave him one 4 states away so he says do not u speak to? lmbo i said who said the sherriff of my county i just had to ask what county that would be and i was givin some word ive never heard. so after a day of theatrical injury to the loss of my job and 3 felony charges for supposedly getting money from payday usa i am waiting for my sheriff to return my call so i can tell him of this thing impersonate an officer. i work hard for my money and noone is going to harass me like this i’m not stupid so my advice to the scammers scam you own country come here tryin to steal from us hard workin honest folks. and did i mention this trash called my moms and told my 12yr old girl to suck her d ** k !!!! these ppl need to be stopped b4 they meet the end of my shotgun !!
I received a call from [redacted] indicating that she had an order to complete about the charges for distribution of fraudulant text related to the social security number and provided she would be serving these documents to me at my home address. address] today and if service could not be made they would contact my employer and inform them that service would take place at their premises. She said if I had any questions or wanted to set an alternative service to contact the complainant’s attorney at [redacted]. I work at an attorney’s office so I brought this to the attention of an attorney in our office. He called the number, and identified himself as my attorney. The gentleman was very rude and said he could not discuss it with him without a letter of recommendation and that when I received the papers I could bring them to the attorney to review. When he said I was present and would like to ask what was about he still refused to give any information and again said to wait for the papers to be served. My attorney asked him if he was familiar with the fair debt practice act and the gentleman said it was not about a debt. I later called him back if he could please let me know what was all about and he again refused because he says I have a counsel, though he previously refused to tell my attorney any information because there was no letter of representation. The man was very rude and hung up on me. I called back and again asked to please be given any information about the issue, he said he could give me information but was choosing not to and again hung up on me. I called back and said it was a policy to not discuss the matter if I am represented by the counsel. I asked if their company [redacted] was the one suing me or someone else and he said it was them. I asked if he could please at least tell me what court was being filed in. After a very exasperated sigh and some computer typing, he said it was being filed in [county I lived in 8 years ago] through the office of [provided the name of prosecuting attorney for that office]. I then called that prosecuting attorney’s office and let them know about the call and asked if they had any cases with my name, which they did not have and suggested that maybe it was a civil case. I then called the circuit clerk’s office and again told them the situation and asked if anything had been filed with my name and they had nothing. After bringing this information back to my attorney he said it was very likely to scam and to inform the Attorney General’s office. I called and gave the Attorney General’s office all the information and was again told that it was very likely a scam. I suppose we will see if I have anything to do in the next few days …
The call was about a cash advance loan that I received over the computer in 2007. They said I owe $ 1500 and I had to give them at least $ 25 before I got off the phone with them or I would be arrested and have to spend $ 5000 to get out of jail, have to pay short money and get put on probation.
here in the states. Pretty much the same crap right now it’s from the homeland. Recently it has been from Obrien, Wexler and Associates 877-334-5288. They called my home and left a message, called my cell, called work and even called my brother that I’m not sure how they got his number. I wonder if they searched it because it has never been on a payday loan app.
RONALD MANN: I have a general idea that people who are really tight for money know more where their next dollar is coming from and going than the people that are not particularly tight for money. So, I generally think that the people who borrow from payday lenders have a better idea of how their finances are going to go for the next two or three months because it’s really a crucial item for them that they worry about every day. So that’s what I set out to test.
This is a common tactic that is used to scare you into pay without questioning the validity of the debt. There are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
summon at an address I did not live at for 8 years .. When I asked for proof of the original debt, she put me on hold … I waited for a 1
I have received a call today 10
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Second you need to educate yourself on your rights as a consumer
Just to be clear, these are not collectors trying to collect legitimate debts. Most of the complaints on our forums, and to the AG AG include consumers who have never taken a payday loan, or who may have initiated one but never actually secured the loan. In some cases, the “collector” has detailed information about the victim – such as name, address and social security number – which makes the debt appear to be real.
I get them all the time too. Everything goes to voice mail If I do not know what I’m saying, I do not know what I’m saying.
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