Paul – I know it’s not easy, but stop stressing. These guys are sitting in some of the country’s most popular people as they can. They can not hurt you. So understand that and do not let them scare you.
Just because they have a lot of information about you does not mean it’s legitimate. These companies are somehow getting access to very detailed information about consumers who applied for and
Joseph – You may want to alert your employer. This scam is well documented from many sources so hopefully your employer would be understanding if you explained that you are being targeted by a scammer.
WERTH: It’s hard to say. Actually, we just do not know. But whatever their incentive might be, their FOIA applications have produced what looks like some pretty damning e-mails between CCRF – which, again, receives funding from payday lenders – and academic researchers who have written about payday lending.
Race Matters: The Concentration of Payday Lenders in North Carolina, by Uriah King, Wei Li, Delvin Davis and Keith Ernst, The Center for Responsible Lending (March, 2005).
According to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, or the CFPB – the federal agency that President Obama wants to tighten payday-loan rules – 75 percent of the industry’s fees come from borrowers who take over 10 loans per year.
Do not hide from bad news. Do not ignore a charge or summary notice from court or the lender, or any court proceedings against you. If you ignore a case, you may lose the opportunity to fight a wage or bank garnishment.
I made the stupid mistake, and because I was unemployed, but go back to work. I took out loans but started a new job, so I was not worried about paying them back. Well I lost my job and was unable. I’m looking for work, but I’m now getting calls from people other than I borrowed from. (capitol solutions) They are a scam from what I read. They threaten to have my paperwork sent to the court house, come to my house
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people had the same story about these people. So I called them back and I asked them to give me the address of their business location and he gave me 1001 State stree, more than 1400, Erie Pa. I googled this address and found out that this address belongs to Moody Law Offices 814-464-9464. I called Moody Law Office and asked them they were affiliated with Law firm Anthony H Rodriguez and they said they did not hear of them and they were not affiliated with them. I called Anthony H Rodriguez back and confronted them about this, and he started cursing and they hung up on me. I’m so happy I did not give them any money.
Rudy – Please do not freak out. This kind of thing happens all the time and what you’re saying happened has all the signs of a scam. I do not want to be taken by a scammer. Read this article: 9 Signs You Are Talking to Debt Collection Scammer
my fiancé has been getting phone calls from someone saying he is an official mike Johnson from 810-223-0563 said he got a loan for $ 300 over the internet but he did not. he applied for some loans but because his credit is bad and no bank account he could not get one. this guy says he got one but he told us where he was from and like most of you he had his name ss # where he works and is threating to have him arrested. We talked to a cop who said that if we had applied for a loan even over the internet they would have mailed out paperwork anyway with PAYMENT OPTIONS and how long you had to pay it back we got nothing and the pretend cop will not give us the It’s a good idea that we have a lot of money, but we have no money for it. what do you do when they keep threatening you and you have no idea what they are talking about.
If they call back, follow the instructions outlined in this article or the resource provided above. If the collector will not comply with your requests, then it may be a scam. It’s hard to say until you talk to them to see if the debt is legitimate. Whatever you do, do not let them intimidate you in paying without validating the debt. As a result of the comment on this thread, they use scare tactics and prey on consumers not knowing their rights and the laws when it comes to debt collections.
DUBNER: Wowzer. That does sound pretty damning – that the head of a research group funded by payday lenders is essentially ghostwriting parts of an academic paper that happens to reach pro-payday lending conclusions. Were you able to speak with Marc Fusaro, the author of the paper?
I had a company contact me today and they said I have a furniture store I did not have an account with the company but they will not send me any documentation from there company and said if I do not pay in an hour a warrant will be released and I will be arrested I’m going to school and do not want to mess up my life so I should pay them
serve me papers. She lives in Chicago and I live in southern Illinois. I called to see what was going on just to find out it’s a bill I’ve already paid off. The person on the phone told me that my account was just sold to them and they hired a locator to find me to serve me papers. They did not want to serve me at work. I told her it was paid off in July and she said I had to get a “Pay in Full” letter from the collector and they would drop it. I called Asset Management and they are sending me a letter. Asset gave me the corporate number for The Cash Store, I called and was told it was fraud and to stop all contact with this company. I’m still going to send in my “pay in full” letter but if I get anything from BOR again I’m going to go after them for violations of the law. This is ridiculous. I keep good records of all my payments and debts (I’ve had many over the years), I know a lot of people do not. They would have just paid them.
My mom is going through this right now. These people are called Empire State Arbitration. They gave him the name of a bank-First Federal Bank of Delaware. They would not give her the phone number of the address. We asked for a file number or dovket number and she would not give me any information on the company I supposedly owe to. I called her and asked her to fax me all the papers she had on the file. She said she could not do that I said I have a right to see all the paperwork for a debt I owed. She was very rude and even hung up on me … I’ve talked to a few legitimate collector’s and even when I was rude they were still very polite..As it turns out my mom already gave them her info to take the payments out … I need help asap! There number is 18444828780
DEYOUNG: This is why price caps are a bad idea. Because if the solution was implemented as I suggest and, in fact, payday lenders lost some of their most profitable customers – because now we’re not getting that fee the 6th and 7th time from them – then the price would have to go up. And we would not let the market determine whether or not at that high price we still have the need to use the product.
The fact that they have your information means absolutely nothing. That information is often bought and sold. Sounds like it is very likely a scam. Again, insist on written confirmation (by mail) as required by law. If they do not send it then you have confirmed what you’re dealing with.
Contact your state’s regulator or attorney general office for more information. You may also contact legal attorney or private attorney assistance for assistance. You can submit a complaint about payday loans with the CFPB online or by calling (855) 411-2372.
There is no surefire way to stop them other than to use some kind of call screening service where only calls you approve go through. You can get some ideas from this piece I wrote: http:
Do you think they are calling from overseas? If they are a legitimate agency then you can report and
I’m really sorry to say that you are going to be legally prosecuted in the Court House within a couple of days. Your SSN is put on hold by US Government, so before something goes wrong I thought I would call you and notify you about this matter. But as I was not able to reach you I am sending you an ultimate email notification. So please take a piece of paper and write down your case MW18240 and second thing since it’s a legal matter you will need my help, so please write down my callback number is 315-999-7327 Ext 2000
I’ve been contacted back to someone I’ve been in touch with you and I’ve been in touch with you. The time if the loan and now I have only part time job so she said either I pay four hundred dollars or I will go to jail. Someone please help me is this real.
DEYOUNG: Yes, I like to think of myself as an objective observer of social activity, as an economist. But there is one section of the blog where we highlight mixed evidence. That helps you to reduce the risk of money at home level. And we also point to, I believe, an equal number of studies in that section that find the exact opposite. And then of course there is another section in the blog where we point directly to rollovers and rollovers is where the rubber hits the road on this. If we can somehow predict which folks will not be able to handle this product and will roll it over incessantly, then we can impress on payday lenders not to make the loans to those people. This product, in fact, is especially badly suited to predict this because the payday lender gets a small number of pieces of information when she makes the loan, as opposed to the information that a regulated financial institution would collect. The cost of collecting that information, of underwriting the loan in the traditional way that a bank would be, would be too high for the payday to offer the product. If we load up additional costs on the production of these loans, the loans will not be profitable any longer.
Furthermore, according to DeYoung’s own research, because the payday-loan industry is extremely competitive, the market tends to drive fees down. And while payday lenders get trashed by government regulators and activists, payday customers, he says, seem to tell a different story.
Hello I hope someone can help me please. I received A call from a guy saying he’s from Empire Mediation & Arbitration Service LLC. That they are taking me to court for defaulting on a payday loan with check n go. That I’m going to face a judge and there’s asking 2815 but if I pay today they’re willing to settle for 412.50. Originally my loan was 255.00. witch I got in 2008. I told them to send me a validation debut letter he said I can email you a settlement letter that they supposedly sent me a while ago. They had my old address But I never got anything because my mom lives there. So there is a saying that I’m going to get served with court papers and I have to face a judge also they want 2,815.00 for fees. Does this sound right please help. I called check n go they said they sold my case in 2009 and they have nothing to do with my case no more and that they are not suing me But they do not know who else has my case since the company they sell it too went out of business. Please help I must pay the 412.50. I do not work or have the money sine I take acre of my daughter who had cancer. Thank you
Ok I got a phone call today for my husband. I know he took out a payday loan 2 years ago and it’s with the people these guys claim they are collecting for. They want my debit card number so that my husband is not “served” and go to court or jail for check fraud. My question here is that they can even go for criminal action for a “fraud check” that was not even technically checked since it was all done online. Also, should I just pay them? They said they are Lincoln or the number is 877-607-5668 I have no problem resolving a legitimate debt but I do not want to get scammed either.
The loan agreement is governed by the California Deferred Deposit Transaction Law. Lender is licensed by the California Department of Business Oversight pursuant to the California Deferred Deposit Transaction Law. Questions or complaints should be directed to the California Department of Business Oversight.
In the end, if they can not answer your questions or validate the debt (in writing), it’s probably a scam. In which case you may not be able to do much about the call but you can report them to your local law enforcement, your state attorney general, and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. You may even want to inform the caller that you have taken these steps.
I googled both numbers but nothing comes up, not even as fraudulent number, so they may be newer numbers. That’s why I wanted to post this in case someone else googles those numbers. She did not disclose any specific information about the charges, did not say it was a debt collection or anything. Did not state the company she works for or the name of the “firm” I’m supposed to call.
Same thing happened to me the same name and number on my phone. The number to get in touch with Ms. Ingram is 1-877- 258- 1188. When asked the name of this company they refused to give information and hung up. Names used are Ms. Barry, Ms. Ingram, and today Ms. Rios. They are threatening me with wage garnishment etc. They refused to give the name of and original debtor. I have no recollection of oweing. Need to know who to call to stop this.
Yes .. I’m getting the same calls as you and from the same guy .. Timothy and yes, he said he’s calling from ADR .. and today I got a call from Tom Hayden who did not identify the company he was he .. he said he received a fax in his office and I had one chance to clear it up by calling 877 548-4064 .. he said I have charges pending against me and would be served. He did not leave a number he could be reached at only ADR’s number. When I called the lady said that I had a loan PD and that I had to pay it right then over the phone by credit card or debit card or give them a member of the credit card etc .. otherwise I was going to be served and would have to go to court and possibly be jailed for check fraud. She then put her “boss” on the phone who named her Gregory Scott and said she would do me a favor and reduce the amount owed by 200.00 which is what she was going to pay the server to come and serve me papers but Only if I can secure him with a debit card or credit card. I asked him where he thought I could get one and he said ACE cash express .. I told him I did not have a credit card nor did I have a pre-paid debit card .. I asked him for the information in writing so I could verify that they were legit and he hung up on me. Seriously, maybe we should do something about this ADR company .. they called my cousin and I never used my cousin as ANYTHING reference and they threatened him (this time when he just lost his sister to cancer) and they told him he needed to secure my debt.
I have been receiving phone calls from (949) 829-2391. My son not knowing any better told them where I work and now they are calling my work telling our secretary that they are going to serve me papers at work if I do not call them back within 2 hours. I am a teacher and I can not have them calling me at school. I called the number that was given 10 minutes after he called the school and got a machine … Jordan and Associates … He told the secretary that he had a legal business matter about quantum support services. I had gotten calls last year and they just started again. I have told them I am reporting them to FTC and Better Business Bureau. What can I do to get them to stop calling
I’m sorry to hear you pay this debt! It sounds like they are the ones acting illegally. Debts included in bankruptcy are protected by the automatic stay, and once the debt is discharged to a creditor can not try to collect it.
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A payday loan is usually paid in a single payment on the next borrower, or when the income is received from another source such as a Pension or Social Security. The due date is typically two to four weeks from the date the loan was made. The specific due date is set in the payday loan agreement.
A payday loan is a short-term loan for an unexpected expense and is usually due to your next payday. Applying is fast and secure. In a few simple steps, payday loans can extend your budget to your next payday by offering the cash you need now.
Tami – what’s wrong with me is talking about “bad checks” – not about the fact that you have a debt. This makes me think they’re going to tell you that you’re going to be arrested for checking fraud if you do not pay. Again, ask them to send you a written notice of the debt required by the federal law – the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
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I know you’re panicked about this, but do not be. Social Security payments are generally safe from creditors. (If you have a federally guaranteed loan your Social Security funds may be at risk but even then you will be notified in the phone and not from the phone call out of the blue.)
I was upset. I looked up Money & More online to see if there was a phone number that I could call to see if I could get more information since they were the ones I did business with. The website has no phone numbers. This to me is crazy. I had made a google search for Money and More when looking for their number. There are several forums and postings about scams to collect a debt from unsuspecting people. Most people are saying too that it was from 2008.
country you will not have any luck with either.
DUBNER: OK, so this is interesting that a watchdog group that will not reveal its funding is going after an industry to try to influence academics that’s funding. So should we assume that CFA, the watchdog, has some kind of horse in the payday race? Do we just not know?
DEYOUNG: Studies that have looked at this have found that once you control for the demographics and income levels in these areas and these communities, the racial characteristics no longer drive the location decisions. As you can expect, business people do not care what color their customers are, as long as their money’s green.
ok heres how this works i did it for about a few years ago first off all the debt is real debt. Ok now heres where the rest becomes illegal to speak or at least walk that thin line in my eyes. its real debt that the people owed but for these companies by the time they got it its OVER the 7 year statute of limitations for collections so they hit hard and fast before you catch on. now when you call john or mary lets say they have professional closers who guess what are now john or mary each one of us gets our list of people going to call and get my company buys by the bAZILLION from the credit card companies medical collection agencies etc for pennies the month i worked there they had a million $$$ month so theres a lot of uninformed people out there. anyways we get their debt info then credit report etc and we search them before we call had my own code to run backgrounds reverse phone etc that way we sound legit we then spoof your sheriff or court house number threaten jail and arrest at your work etc unless you call john or mary since we are all either john or mary they never know for pay for us we had a number like john 1 john 2 or mary 1 mary 2 etc. i can go on and on the gist lol my conscience got the best of me i had to quit p.s. if this happens again just laugh at them and ask them what time breakfast you need a vacation and club med was booked solid so jail will do lol theyll move to the next victim they just keep hounding and bullying if you look weak and they think youll pay. good luck
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