the threats. Do not worry they’re all scam … The cops are still investigating … The cops contacted NCN guys .. (who were probably freaked out … lol) and these guys said they had nothing to do with the calls … Its just made up fake company name … and they are just making prank calls …
Thank you very much for this site and answer to me because after reading some people stories I called him back and ask more questions then told him that I would handle it in court that would not be getting any money from me and hung up about 1 hour later got another call from a different number saying that I would be receiving a summons for court these people are a big scam smh.
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Nona – There are a few options for trying to stop them but it’s not easy when you’re dealing with a scam. If they were legitimate collectors, and traceable – where they could be held accountable under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, consumers would recourse to sue them. However, with scams, it’s a little more difficult … but there are some options that may help – you can file a complaint with your local law enforcement, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and your state attorney general.
Tricia – You can ask the “firm” for proof of the debt. By law, the company must provide this to you. The firm can not serve you. Understanding Your Debt Collection Rights. Scammers sometimes get their money by frightening people; try to stay calm, and do not be intimidated in paying money you do not have to.
Rob Coleman from the Huntington Agency is another SCAM. Will call your work home and even people with you SAME LAST name as yours and leave the same threatening message. Then when you call the number back, it has been disconnected. They will not send you ANYTHING in writing. will not give you their financial mailing address either .. VERY INTESTERSTING
Do not panic. You have the right under the federal law to request the verification of the debt and the debt collector must provide it. They also must provide you with their contact information if you request it. So next time they call, ask for their mailing address. If they do not give it to you then they are either a. a scam or b. a rogue collector who is breaking the law.
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Call went to my MIL’s house. Phone number was 877-334-5288. Said they needed me to call before 5 p.m. I called them, they started the whole laughter about I had an old payday loan and was going to be charged with frud, malicious intent, etc. I stopped the guy and asked for his company name and address and he hung up on me. LOL Think I’m going to call back and try again for the hell of it.
order in order to process any garnishment so doubt anything will come from this. I’m happy to find out this company is a scam and that I was not the only one who almost fell for it. This people need to be stopped as soon as possible. This is riduclous. It’s sad that people come up with stuff like this to do to others.
Fulmer’s firm, Advance America, runs about 2,400 payday loan shops, across 29 states. All in, there are roughly 20,000 payday shops in the U.S., with total loan estimated at around $ 40 billion per year. If you were back to the early 1990s, there were fewer than 500 payday-loan stores. But the industry grew as many states relaxed their usury laws – many states, but not all. Payday lending is prohibited in 14 states, including much of the north and in Washington, D.C. Another nine states allow payday loans but only with more borrower-friendly terms. And that leaves 27 states where payday lenders can charge in the neighborhood of 400 percent interest – states ranging from California to Texas to Wisconsin to Alabama, which is what drew President Obama there.
Same phone number only was a Tina, wanted to pay me $ 690.00 to pay off pay day, asked for the original bill said they didn; t have it, gave me 1 week then garnishment called my lawyer yet to hear back.
“People this stuff is a SCAM they CAN NOT arrest you for having a faulty payday loan. They first have to take you to court and they CAN NOT contact you by phone to inform you of it. You have to be served from the court house stating when and where the court is and who is being taken to court by and for what reasons. ”
You are correct that you are required to give you the proof of the debt. Do you have a physical address for them? If so, you can write a letter and send it registered mail asking for written proof of the debt. If you are being taken to court, you will receive a “summary and complaint” by postal mail or delivered in person. It is a formal court document, not an email.
We are working on some of our payday loans clients and they are getting these same calls. One of the customers were scared in paying them until I looked it up. They said they were from payday loan recovery group. Saying she owed a loan from 2008 for 1,200 and she could pay it in full for $ 399. She was scared in paying but I told her to cancel her creid card before it went through. They send her an invoice on the decline. The processing company is http:
better thanks for educating me on this scam.
My mom is going through this right now. These people are called Empire State Arbitration. They gave him the name of a bank-First Federal Bank of Delaware. They would not give her the phone number of the address. We asked for a file number or dovket number and she would not give me any information on the company I supposedly owe to. I called her and asked her to fax me all the papers she had on the file. She said she could not do that I said I have a right to see all the paperwork for a debt I owed. She was very rude and even hung up on me … I’ve talked to a few legitimate collector’s and even when I was rude they were still very polite..As it turns out my mom already gave them her info to take the payments out … I need help asap! There number is 18444828780
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I’ve been getting phone messages from a place that calls themselves “fraud division” with a Nebraska number claiming that it had taken out a loan in 2013 (which I have not), they claim that if I did not come up with 1169.50 of which I had to pay half today that they were going to forward the
wow. That’s disgusting, especially towards your daughter. I’d have told them “odd, I’ve already talked to my county sheriff about this, so PLEASE some over here because he really wants to meet you too! Oh, all of this is recorded and will be given to my Sheriff this afternoon while we’re sitting around waiting
The same number has been harrassing my work place for the past two days. The breifly talked to him and told him that I would call him back after work hours. But no one answers. Now he’s talking to almost everyone here at my work claiming that they are cussing at him. I already told him to stop calling me work. That’s pissing me off, I do not know what else to do!
he wanted me to give him a credit card number so they could with a draw 500.00 dollar payments until it was paid off. now can they realy take action to be able to appear in court along with a warranty
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about a year ago very threatening and I initially set up a payment. When I found all the scam info online I have not got that account. I honestly do not remember if I had a payday loan default I do not remember having one. They called again but the guy said he was a fraud investigator for the commonwealth of pa and I would be brought up on all of these bogus sounding charges of fraud bad checks etc from a loan probably from 2008. He also knew I have a misdemeanor record and brought it up to me which is what scared me. When I said I know this is a scam he got furious said he would love to see me get prosecuted. I just said anything and hung up. Googled the phone number he left on vm was 8558870097 and it def seems like a scam. Latest loans from my research are illegal in and even if I did have said the default loan which I do not believe I did the statute of limitations on the debt on the 4 years fraud 2 years. I obviously realize the only fraud is these people but I still can not help but worry about this.
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I am confused. Why would a debt collector say that money you paid them was refundable? Perhaps you were applying for a loan? If so, and if this is an advance loan loan scam, the promise refund is worthless. Did you wire money to them via Western Union by chance? If so, then it’s probably gone to someone overseas already.
I received a call about a payday loan that I took out and never paid back. This guy was real nasty told me that I need to quit my job cuz they dont pay that much. Told me that if I dont pay thatvi can be charged with fraud asked for debit card number. Thankfully I had ten dollars less than the agreed amount in my checking n I have a block for overdraft fees. After this I called an attorney office and they said it sounds like a scam. Thing was that I owe a payday loan place and this guy had my name and social security number so I thought it was legit. I have since ordered a new debit card and i’ll talk to my bank about changing my checking acount number or something. I dont want these guys to get into my bank account number. He theartened to garnish my salary told me that if I go to court I could pay up to $ 2000 instead of the small amount that I really owe. Said he can come up to my work and serve me with a poster. I told him that I could only pay $ 50 now and then $ 50 a week and he said he needs 150 now and 100 a week. I do not see how anyone can deny a payment that makes me feel even more scam. U can pay hospital bills at a day and they’re not doing so why this would be any different. I do not pay anything until I get a short date and then I will go to court then I will pay. Until then oh Well I just got a job after being out of work for 4 months I have a lot of important things to worry about
may want to return the call to get more information about the debt. Go into the situation with your eyes open, alert to the possibility that it could be a payday loan scam. To help you through the process, Credit.com offers a number of resources to deal with collectors, your debt collection rights, and steps for protecting yourself from scams. Before you make the call, be sure to read through the following resources so that you know your rights and what to expect from a “legitimate” collector:
thank you Geri this makes my mind at ease even though deep down inside i thought i was right .. i know i owe them the money .. thank you so much i wish other ppl would research this so they do not get scamed. .
Hi !! Well I had been calling to my workplace from (716)218-2000 leaving me saying that they are a law firm firm QA and that I need to contact them immidiatly so I did not because I was at work but next day they call again and my boss let me take the call and they want me to pay $ 570.00 right away with a credit card so I said I do not have that money at the time but i’m welling to make arrangements to get this fix, so they didnt want no arrengments they want the whole amount or they will sue me for check fraud, so I got scare and I had a lot of financial problems and personal problems too and start getting ansiaty attack so that night I end it up on the hospital. So it’s a weekend and they call me again to my cell phone so that the caller Id had 0000000000 no number and I didnt answer so they leave a message that they will serve me on the 8th with the sherrif at my house or my work and take me to jail, I’m scare with this people I can go to jail I will lose my job I had my mother with surgery and cancer and she needs me to take her to drs. I have been able to help her get some money from her, and I’m helping her financially for her treatment so I’m sure to know what to do if someone can help me out and have some advice I will read some of others people experiences with these scam companies that it calm me down a little bit but i cannt immagine seeing my mom saw the police taking me she will be very scare and I dont want to think how she is going to get. This is very bad people scaring people like that is no reason why they have to do this, I just ask God to forgive them and bless them so they stop doing these to the people .. God bless all !!!
Creditors are required to provide written verification of a debt within five days of contacting you. They also do not make threats they do not intend to keep – like filing charges. You can find more about your debt collection here:
I received a phone call today from an “investigator” stating that there is an investigation on me that I have to give a verbal statement. I called the woman back and she gave me this talk about it’s because of a unpaid payday loan from like 2007. I told her it was not on my credit report and asked why. She replied because “the US federal government is holding your ssn and that it would not show up anyway because it was an open case” (the open case thing is false I know, just checked my credit report again, there’s open things on there ….)
Your mother should be contacted both by phone and by postal mail. A collective agency that refuses to do that is not complying with federal law. In such cases, we recommend submitting a complaint to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. You can find more information about dealing with debt collectors here:
The fact that they have your information means absolutely nothing. That information is often bought and sold. Sounds like it is very likely a scam. Again, insist on written confirmation (by mail) as required by law. If they do not send it then you have confirmed what you’re dealing with.
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The bigger problem for payday lenders is the overhead. Alex Horowitz, a research manager at the Pew Charitable Trusts, says that two-thirds of the fee payday lenders collect are spent just keeping the lights on. The average storefront serves only 500 customers a year, and employee turnover is ridiculously high. For example, QC Holdings, a public traded nationwide lender, reported that it had to replace approximately 65 percent of its branch-level employees in 2014. “The profits are not extraordinary,” Horowitz says. “What is extraordinary is the inefficiency.”
I made the stupid mistake, and because I was unemployed, but go back to work. I took out loans but started a new job, so I was not worried about paying them back. Well I lost my job and was unable. I’m looking for work, but I’m now getting calls from people other than I borrowed from. (capitol solutions) They are a scam from what I read. They threaten to have my paperwork sent to the court house, come to my house
last week I got a call from Christina Baker’s Law Firm in ohio claming I have a debt to CashNetUSA …. First, I have NOT applied or got a payday loan. I work for a bank and recently there was a great deal of merchandise breach which my information was compromised. This lady was pretty nice until I told her I would not pay her Sh ** because I had no idea who she was calling for. She would not give me the amount of the loan, when the loan was directly deposited into my account, she would not give me any help on how to get in touch with this loan company. She told me that they had sent me letters in the mail and also had been in collections a year (From 2011, so that would be 2012) and now the debt was turned over to them to collect … she told me I was facing 3 I’m not sure that I could not pay for it, but I did not have to pay for it. Also, she kept putting me in touch and when she came back to the phone after 5 or 10 minute wait time she would again ask me for the phone number associated with the case so she could access my file. She kept insisting I owed this loan and I KNEW I did not. I kept her on the phone long enough to get the call traced by the police department and it came back as a scam … when I told her I knew this was a scam she immediately informed me they would be sending the charges to houston Co. (I do not even live in Houston co.) And I would go to jail and hung up on me. SCAM! beware of these low lifes trying to take your money and what you work hard for!
I received a call from Pay day loan recovery in Illinois. They say it’s for a loan from 2010 and now it’s $ 2300. If I do not settle today I will have my salary garnished and my drivers will be suspended. I thought it was legitimate bc they were not rude. However, in my old paperwork, I can not find any notices or letters. I want to pay any debt that I owe but I dont want to be paying something that is not real. Also, my real fear is suspended for drivers! I have to drive to work
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Why not send all your correspondence thru the mail since you have all this info on me. He said he would and wishes me luck. The scammers use several names like Daniel Richards, Dominic Jones, Angelina Parker and gives you a bogus address in Irvine (the idiot can not even pronounce Irvine, he goes to Irwine) when his phone does not registry East of San Francisco Ca. Please do not be intimidated by these people. Since a lot of our companies are in the US outsourced most of our call center
Has anyone got a call from statewide adr they keep calling my work and my dad house say they want to give me papers. Is this company for real or not i do not find anything on them. And i dont want to lose my job. Please help
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