For a while now, we’ve been getting complaints from Credit.com readers about fake payday loan debt collectors. I’m not surprised when I read the announcement this week by Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan warns Illinois residents to “be on the alert for scam artists posing as collectors of payday loan debt. The scammers call consumers and threaten them with legal action unless the victims authorize payments from their bank accounts. “Her office has received many complaints.
You are correct that you are required to give you the proof of the debt. Do you have a physical address for them? If so, you can write a letter and send it registered mail asking for written proof of the debt. If you are being taken to court, you will receive a “summary and complaint” by postal mail or delivered in person. It is a formal court document, not an email.
I’m getting threatening call from PDL, Stacey
I worked for a credit bureau. If there is a dispute item on your credit report. You may have marked the dispute and the law of the FDCRA the credit bureau must be able to supply you with the verification of the debt within 30 days. If not it must be removed from your file.
has been slammed with an unexpected bill and no cash on hand to cover it. If you ignore the expense, things may only get worse. But your next paycheck is still a long way away.
Do not panic. You have the right under the federal law to request the verification of the debt and the debt collector must provide it. They also must provide you with their contact information if you request it. So next time they call, ask for their mailing address. If they do not give it to you then they are either a. a scam or b. a rogue collector who is breaking the law.
No need to panic. Debt collectors do not pick people up at home or work because they can not pay their bills. Ask them to send you a written notice of the debt that is required under federal law. (By mail, not email.) If they say they can not, then you’re dealing with a scammer. If so, then read my article 7 Ways to Stop Overseas Debt Collection Scam Calls and turn the tables on them!
hi my husband got a call in july saying he had to pay a 300.00 loan and after all interest it’s 789.00. The company ACS claims that he has this through cash advance in America. Wehave spoke to two different people James connor and Kevin Watson and both have the indian accents. So we set up payments of $ 50.00 a week since july so we paid almost 400.00 so far they did send me something in my email of like legal look document and at the top of the logo says “the united states department of justice”. then i was online today and saw this and read it and i dont know if this real or what? Can you plz help?
Some guy named [redacted] keeps emailing me that i need to pay $ 1200 by friday or i will go to jail. The money for a debit collector but he will not tell which company it is. And he wants the money by friday but he only emails me. He will call me the company that pay day loans from
You need to get a handle on the collections process. before you make contact with these gubbers, because they will know if you do not know your rights and they will push you around to get you to acknowledge the debt, accept it and agree to make a payment. That means never ever acknowledges, accept or agree to pay a debt. Period! Even if you owe. Never! Follow the law and get a VOD first. Never ever confirm your details to them. If they claim you are a federal law FDCPA, the burden to be so is on them, you should have your details down. So just tell them to send whatever they have to the address on record. The reason you do not accept a debt is if the statute of limitation has expired for FDCPA the debt is time barred and noncollectable. If you accept it, it restarts the clock all over again.
My daughter has been getting these calls for a year and a half now. The last one was on 7
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consumers, is going too far. Under the plan it is now considering, lenders would have to make sure that borrowers can repay their loans and cover other living expenses without extensive defaults or reborrowing. These actions would really seem to curtail the possibility of people falling into debt traps with payday lenders. But the industry argues that the rules would be put out of business. And while a self-serving howl of pain is precisely what you would expect from any industry under government fire, this appears, based on the business model, to be true-not only would the regulations eliminate the very loans from which the industry makes its money, but they would also introduce significant new underwriting costs on every loan.
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I’ve been getting these calls. They are also calling my job that I did not have at the time of this alleged loan. I do not want this to affect my job. They’ve called back to back and would not say who they are with and would not agree to send me a letter, saying they have sent several email. There is a call coming through right now while I’m writing this from 1243521256 and yes that’s all of the numbers … eh caller fraud ID as well. What is the name of Vaness? and gave a call back from 650-835 – ???? number. Omg! I am about to file a police report and open a FTC Case in my state.
First, understand your rights when dealing with a collector. If you read through this comment, you will see many examples of fake payday loan scam collectors using scare tactics to coerce victims in paying up without researching the debt or verifying that they actually have it. In your case, if you’re positive you paid the old payday loan in full, it’s quite possible that it’s a scam. Fortunately, there are laws in place that protect you from debt collectors and they have to abide by those laws (if they are legitimate and not scams). For more on what to do and say when a debt collector calls, this resource will help: What to Do if Debt Collector Calls
couple months ago stating that I had taken out a loan in Aug of 2012. They said they had papers for me and that I had to pay right away to avoid legal action. They gave me the bank account number and checking account number that the money was deposited in, had my social security number and knew where
I received a recorded call at work that said I had written a bad check and would be sent court papers at home or at work that day. The message then left 1888-786-0630 or 1888-390-5129 to call to try to settle or plan a payment plan. I got really scared and called the number. The lady said she was from Johnson York LLC and that they are middle man to recover past due payday loans. I do not think I owe this debt, but I was so shaken that I paid them $ 50, and set up a payment plan of $ 200 a month to pay a total of $ 960.00. She sent me an email receipt but it does not look legitimate to me. Their logo is weird, there is no address, and no website. She said it’s a loan with quick cash. I tried to google quick cash and nothing comes up. I do not want to keep them if this is a scam, and I guess the worst that could happen is to be served or have my check garnished? I just do not like the fact that they are calling my work place. Should I call them back and ask them for their address, business license and for the original paperwork for the debt? I’m not sure if this is a real collection agency. Please help!
Rudy – Please do not freak out. This kind of thing happens all the time and what you’re saying happened has all the signs of a scam. I do not want to be taken by a scammer. Read this article: 9 Signs You Are Talking to Debt Collection Scammer
I received several calls from a donna mitchell she gave me a phone number to call 877-882-2435 with a case # i call tehm tehy say the are NCR (National Check Resolution) i really do not belive them when they say they are come to my place of work or my home to serve me .. i know it dosen’t happen that way i have talked to my local police officer and he said not to worry about it. But this time they sound so real .. I know i owe the money but the amout they gave me is atrocious. I just missed one payment and now they want about 800.00 when i only borrowed 350 and i’ve been paying 37.50 since may .. the lady (lisa) said i really do not care if you just pay or i just just a I do not know that it’s really good, it’s really good, it’s really good .. so i’m a little concerned i do not want to ignore it but it all sounds so weird during the whole phone call wiht lisa she kept putting me on hold. she said they would file with the clerk of court for fraud by deception .. and will only let me pay by credit card. I told her I wanted them to send me a bill in the mail and she said they told her they tried to contact me by email .. can not send by mail. I asked by mail again and to send in in payment .. I’m not sure to send them money my gut feeling does not send it to them … but my concious i know i owe the money ..
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I am receiving threatening call from 877-673-8289, they left a message but also spoke with my father at my house. On the message they guy talk so fast but I think the name is Darrell Hines. He tried to say he was a court processor and that they were coming to my house and working to server me papers for check fraud and he also told my father this on the phone. In the message the only number given is the one above and that is for “Payday Solutions” which I found out when I returned the call. They later called back and asked for my daughter by name. I plan to follow through with this company and the company at the FTC and the Texas Attorney General’s office.
Today I came in from a stressful day, phone rings and it’s some stupid chick telling me I was going to be served and did not call this number at ADR – 877-801-8348. I asked her what was she talking about. She said, “I can not tell you the records are sealed!” She said, “If you call this number that will prevent you from a lot of trouble!” I said “No thanks, I would rather know what the trouble is , serve me! “I live in a remote part of the country – PO Box only – I also knew I had not been responsible for anything illegal. Have been a grown up now for several years and knew -my life was clean! I told her if she called me back that I was going to turn her into the AG’s Office and hung up. A few minutes later my mom called some girl was looking for me and I needed to call that number. My mom is 83 and we just went through the lost, my dad and my brother-in-law. None of us need this at anytime in our lives. I WILL turn them into the authorities if they call me back. I hope everybody else will do the same. I told my mom not to even think about talking to them or anyone else who can not identify themselves or their company. It’s a shame such evil lives in our world … find a job, do something honest for a change. We have enough crap going on without these scumsuckers bothering us or moreso our parents! BTY the girls name was CORY.
“People this stuff is a SCAM they CAN NOT arrest you for having a faulty payday loan. They first have to take you to court and they CAN NOT contact you by phone to inform you of it. You have to be served from the court house stating when and where the court is and who is being taken to court by and for what reasons. ”
Hi !! Well I had been calling to my workplace from (716)218-2000 leaving me saying that they are a law firm firm QA and that I need to contact them immidiatly so I did not because I was at work but next day they call again and my boss let me take the call and they want me to pay $ 570.00 right away with a credit card so I said I do not have that money at the time but i’m welling to make arrangements to get this fix, so they didnt want no arrengments they want the whole amount or they will sue me for check fraud, so I got scare and I had a lot of financial problems and personal problems too and start getting ansiaty attack so that night I end it up on the hospital. So it’s a weekend and they call me again to my cell phone so that the caller Id had 0000000000 no number and I didnt answer so they leave a message that they will serve me on the 8th with the sherrif at my house or my work and take me to jail, I’m scare with this people I can go to jail I will lose my job I had my mother with surgery and cancer and she needs me to take her to drs. I have been able to help her get some money from her, and I’m helping her financially for her treatment so I’m sure to know what to do if someone can help me out and have some advice I will read some of others people experiences with these scam companies that it calm me down a little bit but i cannt immagine seeing my mom saw the police taking me she will be very scare and I dont want to think how she is going to get. This is very bad people scaring people like that is no reason why they have to do this, I just ask God to forgive them and bless them so they stop doing these to the people .. God bless all !!!
DUBNER: Hey Christopher. So, as I understand it, much of what you’ve learned about CCRF’s involvement in the payday research comes from a watchdog group called the Campaign for Accountability, or CFA? So, first off, tell us a bit more about them, and what their incentives may be.
I had a similar call last week claiming I defaulted on a PDL from 2008 which I took out and also did pay back in full when it was due. They are threatening me with court and possible criminal prosecution for cheating fraud. The name of the person who called was Timothy and he was calling from something called ADR firm at behalf of his client. He said the client is BG Capital Associates and that they bought the debt from Money and More (who is the company I had the PDL through back in 2008. The phone # they called from and also had me back was 716-748-6566 and 716-748-6519. Has anybody heard of these people or had similar experience?
i get harrassed from this lady name judy bowling stating that i owe over 10,000 to this payday one loan.i never made a loan.i have never filled out a application or i never did any business with any loan.its scary that they have my social security number, my drivers license and all my private info.what can I do?
WERTH: It’s hard to say. Actually, we just do not know. But whatever their incentive might be, their FOIA applications have produced what looks like some pretty damning e-mails between CCRF – which, again, receives funding from payday lenders – and academic researchers who have written about payday lending.
Help !! I keep receiving calls [from a woman] stating she is from dept of investigations out if it’s housed in the internet payday lian I tool in 2006. Since then I filed bankruptcy in 2010 I do not know if included in bankruptcy cause if they sell it I whose name she keeps threatening me with stop and desist I have paid them sone money like $ 1500.00 and she said if I didnt make arrangements they would turn ovrr yo stste and have me arrested for fraud I do not know whst to do and I on disability now and cant go to jail. Please help with any advice sndo took money adsin out my account wuthout permission. Any advice ?? She said I wrote bank check I told her I did not give them a check in 2006
I received a phone call today from an “investigator” stating that there is an investigation on me that I have to give a verbal statement. I called the woman back and she gave me this talk about it’s because of a unpaid payday loan from like 2007. I told her it was not on my credit report and asked why. She replied because “the US federal government is holding your ssn and that it would not show up anyway because it was an open case” (the open case thing is false I know, just checked my credit report again, there’s open things on there ….)
Check ‘n Go (“we,” “our,” or “us”) provides a deferred deposit transaction. Deferred deposit transactions are subject to a finance charge based on the amount you borrow, the “amount financed.” The larger your amount financed is, the larger the finance charge will be. We offer reperred transactions in $ 5 amount-financing increments ranging from $ 50 to $ 255. The amount you have equals the sum of the amount financed and the finance charge. For example, if you get a $ 255 deferred deposit transaction, then the finance charge is $ 45 and the amount you owe would be $ 300 (ie, $ 255 $ 45).
On the other hand, this leaves about 40 percent of borrowers who were not good at predicting when they would pay the loan off. And Mann found a correlation between bad predictions and past payday loans.
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I’ve been contacted back to someone I’ve been in touch with you and I’ve been in touch with you. The time if the loan and now I have only part time job so she said either I pay four hundred dollars or I will go to jail. Someone please help me is this real.
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My mom is going through this right now. These people are called Empire State Arbitration. They gave him the name of a bank-First Federal Bank of Delaware. They would not give her the phone number of the address. We asked for a file number or dovket number and she would not give me any information on the company I supposedly owe to. I called her and asked her to fax me all the papers she had on the file. She said she could not do that I said I have a right to see all the paperwork for a debt I owed. She was very rude and even hung up on me … I’ve talked to a few legitimate collector’s and even when I was rude they were still very polite..As it turns out my mom already gave them her info to take the payments out … I need help asap! There number is 18444828780
The Illinois Attorney General’s Office says the bogus debt collectors have heard about using various names, including: Morgan & Associates, Federal Bureau of Investigators, DNR Recovery, DNI Recovery, Legal Accounts Association, Department of Law and Enforcement, CashNet USA , American Legal Services, Quick Cash, and ACS. If you hear from any of these companies, be sure to report them immediately to your state Attorney General’s office and the Federal Trade Commission
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I’m glad to hear you are no longer panicking. Debt collectors can not have you hauled off to jail just because you can not pay your bills. What kind of debt is this? Do you have it Has this collection agency sent you anything in writing?
And this does not make sense: “They had a warrant for my arrest and ready to be sent to the sheriffs department in my county.” If they did not have a warrant for your arrest, why would they tell you that other than to try to shake you down for money? It would be smart for you to call your local sheriff’s department, explain what happened and ask them if you can file a police report.
IT WAS A SCAM !!!!
Except to the extent of the federal Truth-In-Lending Act considers your ACH authorization “security” for the deferred deposit transaction, we take no collateral to secure the transaction. For example, we do not take a security interest in any real estate or personal property item.
You can do all of us should do – check your credit reports and scores regularly. Given the number of data people are required to give Social Security numbers, we are all at some risk. We wrote about somewhat similar situation here: Help! Someone Is Using My Social Security Number
I was contacted by these people
They are so far breaking the law. I have not received a written statement regarding the debt of these payday loans. and they have threatened dire consequences multiple times (number 5 in your article), they definitely call earlier
ITS FAKE IF YOU HAVE SOCIAL SITES AND THEY CAN GET INFO FROM SITES AND PAY TO GET YOUR PERSONAL INFO THINGS ARE HACKED SUCK AS EMAILS THAT’S Y THERE IS SPAM JUST MAKE SURE YOUR MOM DO NOT GIVE THEM MONEY THAT’S ALL THEY WANT IF IT WAS REAL JUST ASK THEM TO SEND SOMETHING IN THE MAIL THEY ALWAYS SAY WE CANT WHICH IS A LIE IF THEY ARE A REAL COMPANY IF YOUR MOM SENT MONEY ALREADY TELL HER REQUEST A REFUND FROM THE PREPAID CARD COMPANY ASAP AND CALL LOCAL POLICE DEPT I HOPE THIS HELPS THE INTERNET CAN BE YOU BEST FRIEND OR YOUR WORST ENEMY GUD LUCK
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