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Sadly, these types of scammers are good at what they do and very convincing. They prey on consumers that are not aware of the rules and use scare tactics to convince them otherwise. You hit the nail on the head with this:
What exactly did your son receive in the mail? It sounds like if your advice is wise. It’s also a good idea for your son to check his credit reports to see if there are any accounts he does not recognize and to dispute any errors. Here are a couple of resources that may be useful:
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In April of 2000, Christopher Walken hosted Saturday Night Live. During the show, he would insist that Will Ferrell add “more cowbell” to Blue Oyster Cult’s “Do not Fear” the Reaper “; Before that, however, he made an appearance in one of the SNL’s satirical ads. Clad in yellow-sweater and perched next to Ana Gasteyer before a roaring fire-and speaking in a classically Walkenan growl-the actor engaged in a bit of confession: “In a marriage,” he intoned, the fire crackling behind him, “Intimacy is important. Erectile dysfunction is a thief. It takes away something very precious. “Walken went on to announce that he and his fictional wife had discovered, together, the virtues of Viagra. “It worked,” he said, as Gasteyer smirked and the fire crackled and easy listening music played in the background. He paused. “It worked a lot.”
ERVIN BANKS: I do not see anything wrong with them. I had some back bills I had to pay off. So it did not take me too long to pay it back – about three months, something like that. They are beautiful people.
The Military Lending Act Five Years Later: The High-Cost Small Dollar Loan Market, and the Campaign against Predatory Lending, by Jean Ann Fox, Consumer Federation of America (May, 2012).
the threats. Do not worry they’re all scam … The cops are still investigating … The cops contacted NCN guys .. (who were probably freaked out … lol) and these guys said they had nothing to do with the calls … Its just made up fake company name … and they are just making prank calls …
After reading everyone’s comments it sounds like I should not give in giving them money for a PDL I never received. The scary thing is what will happen if I do not ignore this. I mean is there a real legitimate way they can have any impact on my credit or SS # or place of employment?
Creditors are required to provide written verification of a debt within five days of contacting you. They also do not make threats they do not intend to keep – like filing charges. You can find more about your debt collection here:
I received a call yesterday from a law office stating that they were going to have me arrested for fraud and theft for not paying a payday loan. They said that it had been over 21 days since I made a payment and that if I wanted to go out of court that all I needed to do was put $ 385 on a green dot moneypak card by today. I have taken out two payday loans just recently and just had my first payment due on Friday which I paid. The number that they are calling from is 401-648-7325 by Lisa Green. She also said that the money had been deposited in my account and when they tried to pay out they were not able to. They also did not give me information on when the deposit took place and what company the payday loan was through. This sounds like a lot of the other posts that I have read but I do not want to take the chance of being arrested … what do I do ??
Elizabeth Warren has endorsed the idea of the Postal Service partnering with banks to offer short-term loans. But even some fellow opponents of payday think that’s unfeasible. In a New York Times op-ed last fall, Frederick Wherry, a sociologist professor at Yale, pointed out that doing this would require the Postal Service to have all new infrastructure, and its new full skills set employees. Another alternative would seem to be online companies, because they do not have the storefront overhead. But they may have difficulty managing the fraud, and they themselves are difficult to police, so they may at times evade state caps on interest rates. So far, the rates charged by many Internet lenders seem to be higher, not lower, than those charged by traditional lenders. (Elevate Credit, which says it has a sophisticated, technological-based way of underwriting loans, brags that its loans for the “new middle class” are half the cost of typical payday loans – but it is selective in its lending, and still charges about 200 percent annually.) Promising out-of-the-box ideas, in other words, are in short supply.
I am very concerned you are dealing with a scammer – possibly in both instances. Please read this article about how process servers work and proceed with extreme caution. (And verify the one you are making payments to is legitimate!)
The only insight we can offer at this point is that it’s very likely it’s a scam. If it was a legitimate collector, they would be violating many laws under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. Thankfully, you did the right thing and did not fall for it.
There’s one more thing I want to add to today’s discussion. The payday-loan industry is, in a lot of ways, a simple target. But the more I think about it, the more it looks like a symptom of a bigger problem, which is this: remember, to get a payday loan, you need to have a job and a bank account. So what does it say about an economy in which millions of working people make so little money that they can not pay their bills, that they can not absorb one hit like a ticket for smoking in public?
Edit: I’ve seen that the original debt is “real debt,” and while the original debt may be real, even if you’ve paid in full and can prove it, it gets resold over and over. Check out John Oliver’s story. His show is investigated and these are small-time debt collectors depending on fooling people in paying to avoid legal action that rarely, if ever, happens. He bought $ 14 million in medical debt for $ 60k and erased it for thousands of people being harassed for debts that had been paid.
I’m down with zero cash and applied for a payday loan now, I’m getting harassment calls from a phony call center (a double-wide trailer) deep in the heart of the Idyllwild Forest Reserves in California. They call and harass in a few dialects (Deep Indian, Middle Eastern, and Slavic … The phone number (951-468-0421) is listed as a lease from Sprint, and the thumbprint tracking that each call leaves leaves to that very location, Thanks to that phone’s GPS I had paid off the loan, Thank you, and now I’m still getting calls from ACS Legal Services. And then, If they persist, you can file harassment against the phone number and the person.
When Britain threw out 23 Russian diplomats in response to an assassination attempt on Russian agent Sergei Skripal, Vladimir Putin, the president of Russia and the current bad boy of modern geopolitics, shrugged it off. With the relations between London and Moscow so strained, the embassy did not have all that much to do, anyway. The cost, Putin no doubt felt, was predictable and bearable. Then on Monday, 20 other countries, from Albania to Ukraine, joined in a coordinated expulsion campaign, with the United States accounting for 60 of the Russians sent packing. On Tuesday, NATO announced it would expel seven Russian diplomats in response to the poisoning. Suddenly, the Kremlin is not looking really so comfortable. With the Skripal hit, it looks like Putin may have finally overreached.
I received a phone call today from an “investigator” stating that there is an investigation on me that I have to give a verbal statement. I called the woman back and she gave me this talk about it’s because of a unpaid payday loan from like 2007. I told her it was not on my credit report and asked why. She replied because “the US federal government is holding your ssn and that it would not show up anyway because it was an open case” (the open case thing is false I know, just checked my credit report again, there’s open things on there ….)
The explanation for this is not simple, and a variety of economic jargon floats around the issue. But it’s all started with this: The typical payday-consumer loan is too desperate, too unsophisticated, or too exhausted from being treated with disrespect by traditional lenders to engage in shopping. So demand is what economists call price tax. As Clarence Hodson, who published a book in 1919 about the business of small loans, put it, “It is not possible for bargain to benefit with cupidity.” In its last financial year, Advance America, one of the country’s largest payday lenders, wrote, “We believe that the main competitive factor is customer service, rental, convenience, speed, and confidentiality.” You will notice it did not mention the price.
Not having the money to pay a debt is not a crime. It sounds like you’re dealing with scammers. The advice I gave in the articles below to your situation. Start with step # 1 and insist they email your written statement of the debt that is required by federal law. (Do not be intimidated by the fact that they have a lot of information about you – that’s very common with payday loans.)
my fiancé has been getting phone calls from someone saying he is an official mike Johnson from 810-223-0563 said he got a loan for $ 300 over the internet but he did not. he applied for some loans but because his credit is bad and no bank account he could not get one. this guy says he got one but he told us where he was from and like most of you he had his name ss # where he works and is threating to have him arrested. We talked to a cop who said that if we had applied for a loan even over the internet they would have mailed out paperwork anyway with PAYMENT OPTIONS and how long you had to pay it back we got nothing and the pretend cop will not give us the It’s a good idea that we have a lot of money, but we have no money for it. what do you do when they keep threatening you and you have no idea what they are talking about.
WOW I do not believe this happened to me. Someone has been calling me for a few days now and I finally call back and say I have a payday loan I took out in 2010. OK I know I never did, so I ask for the name of the buisness she works for and she says [redacted]. Then I ask her where this payday loan came from and she says [redacted] an online payday loan. She said I stopped paying it. Then I said I do not believe you or this and HUNG UP! Hec no. No scammer is going to get me. IDK what they know about me Nothing anyone cant look up!
Christy – Do not panic. It sounds like you’re talking with a scammer. Please read this article. Do not send them a prepaid card. If it was a legitimate collection agency they would allow you to send a check. They want a prepaid card because it can not be traced. And once you pay them something, they will never leave you alone. Read this: 9 Signs You Are Talking to Debt Collection Scammer
I’m getting calls often, different numbers, started about a week ago.It is scary, and upsetting.Latest is from 1-718-841-6480.Thaey call work, threatens to file charges against me, I will be arrested if I don i pay.A guy tried to get me $ 560 immediately.I didn’t.Help
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I was contacted by a guy who claims to be with a lawyer firm. He said that charges were filed against me for taking out a payday loan online. It’s against the law in the state of “North Carolina” at the time I did not know this. When I asked who filed charges against me he mentioned the Social Security Commissioner, the Federal Credit Commission and the Attorney General Office. I called all these offices and they all said it sounds like a scam so I gave all the info I have. He told me if I settled out of court I would pay $ 600.00 and if I went to court I could pay $ 1000.00 … he also said I could be arrested. The loans I took out I paid them every month, the Attorney General told me not to worry but this man keeps calling me.
I was contacted a month ago from a company stating I had 2 pending charges through the state. I called them. It was for a payday loan through CashNet in 2009. They had a check number and my bank account info so I figured it was legit as at the time I took out those types of loans. They also told me they sent me a letter to the address I previously lived at and threatened to issue a warrant for my arrest. Of course it scared the crap out of me, so my husband paid this. I got a confirmation number, but as of yet, no paper work. YEsterday I received another call and voicemail. I checked it today and it was the same thing form a different company. Thankfully I wrote down all the information from the one company I did pay. I called this number and the lady started giving me the exact same thing the other company did. But with a different date the loan was taken out. I said it was for cashnet in the amount of $$$. she agreed. I said I paid this, I have a confirmation number, phone number and name of whom I dealt with. I looked in my husbands check register so now I have the date and company that pulled the money. Her reply was “I will speak to my attorney and if he has any questions he will call you.”
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Just received a call from 267-350-8751 claiming I owed money from a loan in 2011 … .she said they would take all my property, garnish my salary, and send me to jail … for an alleged $ 300 loan? I said some not nice things, and she hung up.
DUBNER: Well, Christopher, that defense sounds, at least to me, like pretty weak sauce. I mean, the university writing center does not have as much vested interest in the outcome of my writing as an industry group does for an academic paper about that industry, right?
wish I had an answer for you as far as stopping the calls. You may want to find out if your company offers service that screens calls for you. (It requires callers to announce themselves and then choose whether to take the call.) Google voice does this for free. It will allow you to select which calls you can use without announcements and which you have to screen. I use Google voice and like it alot. It can do the trick for you.
Last year, bike sharing took off in China, with thousands of bike-share companies quickly flooding city streets with millions of brightly colored rental bicycles. However, the rapid growth was largely outpaced immediate demand and overwhelmed Chinese cities, where infrastructure and regulations were not prepared to handle sudden flood of millions of shared bicycles. Riders would park bikes anywhere, or just abandon them, resulting in bicycles piling up and blocking already-crowded streets and pathways. As cities impounded derelict bikes by the thousands, they moved quickly to cap growth and regulate the industry. Big batteries of impounded, abandoned, and broken bicycles have become a familiar sight in many big cities. As many of the companies have been in the bigger and too early have begun to fold, their huge surplus of bicycles can be found collecting dust in large vacant lots. Bike sharing remains very popular in China, and will probably continue to grow, only at a more sustainable rate. Meanwhile, we are left with these images of speculation gone wild-the piles of debris left behind after the bubble bursts.
solutions that satisfy both sides, and I think this is a solution that does not satisfy both sides, or could at least satisfy both sides. It keeps the industry running for folks who value the product. On the other hand it identifies folks using it incorrectly and allows them to get out without you knowing being more trapped.
I just got a call stating that i was for fees for payday loan company, it really freaked me out because the message left on my answer machine said something about restraining order and they used my maiden name so I called the number left on my machine It was 813-217-5283 I asked for Tina Charles the woman who left her name I got this guy and he said well the loan company that found the lenders got a fee and that’s what i defaulted on i told him i did not see that in any of the sites and he said that sounds ridicules I told him you sound ridicules and then i yelled goodbye and hung up. I would not have given them any money any way but still it freaked me out
with a case # So I immediately called back and a lady answered as “United” and asked for my case #. I gave it to her and she said I owe for a PDL from Sept 2011 with ACE. I do not remember having a loan with them. I have had PDLs before and thought I’ve forgot about it. I Todd them I’m on maternity leave and have no income. Then she transferred me to her supervisor because she was monitoring the call and wanted to try and work something out with me. He asked if Ihad people I can borrow the money from because if it does not get paid I will go to court and be charged with fraud check. Scared the crap out of me! So he said I can pay $ 150 by Jan 25th and the rest by Feb 22. I asked why I never got anything in the mail. He asked if the address he had was right, it was an address that I moved out of in June 2011. So he said that’s why. He said I had to get the payment plan with a debit card. I was stupid and gave it to him. The last few days I’ve been thinking about it because I just did not remember this loan. Then I remembered that in AZ they have no real payday loans, they were outlawed in 2010. Now they give you a loan off your car registration or title. So if I defaulted then they would have come and taken my car. Also, IF you give them a check it has to be a voided check. So how can I have a bad check if they can not cash it being that it was voided? So … .does it sounds like my situation is also a scam? If so I probably need to cancel my card.
It may seem inconceivable that a company could not make money collecting interest at a 36 percent annual clip. One reason it’s true is that default rates are high. A study in 2007 by two economists, Mark Flannery and Katherine Samolyk, found that defaults account for more than 20 percent of operating expenses at payday-loan stores. By comparison, loan losses in 2007 at small U.S. commercial banks accounted for only 3 percent of expenses, according to the Kansas City Fed. This is not surprising, given that payday lenders do not look carefully at the borrower’s income, expenses, or credit history to ensure that she can repay the loan: That underwriting process, the bedrock of conventional lending, would be ruinously expensive when applied to a $ 300, two-week loan. Instead, lending to the borrower’s checking account-but if that’s empty due to other withdrawals or overdrafts, it’s empty.
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